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Moon god?
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Sorry my bad. As I was scanning down the board, I read "relation" as "religion" I will ask a mod to move it to religion board now. Thanks for letting me know.Why is this under "race relations"?
Bizarre.
Mr. H.
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Idolatry?
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Getting in all fours to a black rock? What is it then.
Islam s origins are based on idolatry.
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Roudy do you really want to get into how today's religions copy the "disproven" ancient religions?
I doubt muslims think a black slab is god.
If you are suggesting it is a medium to speak to God through, I doubt that too.
If you are suggesting the ritual has roots in idoltry, then that is highly argumentative(an interesting topic) but to say that muslims are idoltors is clearly a misunderstanding in my opinion.
If you are suggesting it is a medium to speak to God through, I doubt that too.
If you are suggesting the ritual has roots in idoltry, then that is highly argumentative(an interesting topic) but to say that muslims are idoltors is clearly a misunderstanding in my opinion.
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I doubt muslims think a black slab is god.
If you are suggesting it is a medium to speak to God through, I doubt that too.
If you are suggesting the ritual has roots in idoltry, then that is highly argumentative(an interesting topic) but to say that muslims are idoltors is clearly a misunderstanding in my opinion.
It started out with idolatry and evolved when Mohammad mixed his local moon god religion with Judaism and Christianity. So yes, I am arguing that Islam has roots in idolatry, including many of its rituals, such as Ramadan, which occurs every year based on a certain lunar position. Muslims unknowingly are indeed repeating many of the rituals of the idol worshippers in the Arabian peninsula.
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RAMADAN AND ITS ROOTS
Ramadan has Pagan Roots in India and the Middle East
Ramadan, the ninth month of the Islamic calendar and the rigid observance ofthirty days of fasting during the daylight hours, has pagan roots developed inIndia and the Middle East. The observance of fasting to honor the moon, and ending the fast when themoon’s crescent appears, was practiced with the rituals of the Eastern worshippersof the moon. Both Ibn al-Nadim and the Shahrastani tell us about al-Jandrikinieh, an Indian sect which began to fast when the moon disappeared andended the fast with a great feast when the crescent reappearedhttp://religionresearchinstitute.org/ramadan/roots.htm#_edn1[1].
The Sabians, who were pagans in the Middle East, were identified with twogroups, the Mandaeans and the Harranians. The Mandaeans lived in Iraq during the2nd century A.D. As they continue to do today, they worshipped multiple gods,or “light personalities.” Their gods were classified under four categories: “first life,” “second life,”“third life”and “fourth life.” Old gods belongto the “first life” category. They summoned deities who, in turn, created “second life”deities, and so forth.
The other group, considered as Sabians, were the Harranians. They worshippedSin, the moon, as their main deity, but they also worshipped planets and other deities. The Sabians were in contact with Ahnaf, an Arabian group which Mohammed joinedbefore claiming to be a prophet. Ahnaf sought knowledge by going to NorthernIraq, where there were many communities of Mandaeans. They also went to thecity of Harran in the al-Jazirah district in northern Syria on the borderbetween Syria, Iraq and Asia Minor.
Ramadan was a pagan ceremony practiced by the Sabians, whether they wereHarranians or Sabians. From the writings of Abu Zanad, an Arabic writer from Iraqwho lived around 747 A.D., we conclude that at least one Mandaean communitylocated in northern Iraq observed Ramadan[ii][2].
Ramadan was Originally an Annual Ritual Performed at the City of Harran. Similarities Between the Ramadan of Harran and the Islamic Ramadan.
Although the fasting of Ramadan was practiced in pre-Islamic times by the pagansof Jahiliyah, it was introduced to Arabia by the Harranians. Harran was a cityon the border between Syria and Iraq, very close to Asia Minor which, today, isTurkey. Their main deity was the moon, and in the worship of the moon, theyconducted a major fast which lasted thirty days. It began the eighth of March andusually finished the eighth of April. Arabic historians, such as Ibn Hazm, identifythis fast with Ramadan.[iii][3]
Ramadan has Pagan Roots in India and the Middle East
Ramadan, the ninth month of the Islamic calendar and the rigid observance ofthirty days of fasting during the daylight hours, has pagan roots developed inIndia and the Middle East. The observance of fasting to honor the moon, and ending the fast when themoon’s crescent appears, was practiced with the rituals of the Eastern worshippersof the moon. Both Ibn al-Nadim and the Shahrastani tell us about al-Jandrikinieh, an Indian sect which began to fast when the moon disappeared andended the fast with a great feast when the crescent reappearedhttp://religionresearchinstitute.org/ramadan/roots.htm#_edn1[1].
The Sabians, who were pagans in the Middle East, were identified with twogroups, the Mandaeans and the Harranians. The Mandaeans lived in Iraq during the2nd century A.D. As they continue to do today, they worshipped multiple gods,or “light personalities.” Their gods were classified under four categories: “first life,” “second life,”“third life”and “fourth life.” Old gods belongto the “first life” category. They summoned deities who, in turn, created “second life”deities, and so forth.
The other group, considered as Sabians, were the Harranians. They worshippedSin, the moon, as their main deity, but they also worshipped planets and other deities. The Sabians were in contact with Ahnaf, an Arabian group which Mohammed joinedbefore claiming to be a prophet. Ahnaf sought knowledge by going to NorthernIraq, where there were many communities of Mandaeans. They also went to thecity of Harran in the al-Jazirah district in northern Syria on the borderbetween Syria, Iraq and Asia Minor.
Ramadan was a pagan ceremony practiced by the Sabians, whether they wereHarranians or Sabians. From the writings of Abu Zanad, an Arabic writer from Iraqwho lived around 747 A.D., we conclude that at least one Mandaean communitylocated in northern Iraq observed Ramadan[ii][2].
Ramadan was Originally an Annual Ritual Performed at the City of Harran. Similarities Between the Ramadan of Harran and the Islamic Ramadan.
Although the fasting of Ramadan was practiced in pre-Islamic times by the pagansof Jahiliyah, it was introduced to Arabia by the Harranians. Harran was a cityon the border between Syria and Iraq, very close to Asia Minor which, today, isTurkey. Their main deity was the moon, and in the worship of the moon, theyconducted a major fast which lasted thirty days. It began the eighth of March andusually finished the eighth of April. Arabic historians, such as Ibn Hazm, identifythis fast with Ramadan.[iii][3]
ninja007
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of course OP! I AGREE> ISLAM STARTED from a moon god>
ninja007
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Prior to Muhammad’s birth, there were about 570 tribes that comprised the Arab people. These tribes worshipped about 360 gods at Mecca in the Kabah structure. Allah the moon god was the chief deity over them all. Each tribe had their own deity they worshipped in the Kabah. The Kabah served as the pantheon where the idols of each tribal deity stood and were worshipped by Arabs making pilgrimages to Mecca. The black stone in the Kabah that stands for the central symbol of Islamic worship today, during Pre-Islamic Arabia, was originally the idol for the moon god, Allah. In the last 100 or so years, archaeologists have excavated various temple sites dedicated to the moon god from the Arabian Peninsula to the Mesopotamian region. The worship of the moon god was one of the most popular forms of worship in the ancient Middle East. The symbol for the moon god found in most of these excavated places was the Crescent Moon. It is no coincidence that the preeminent symbol of Islam is the crescent moon seen on the minarets of mosques and the flags of Islamic nations! The fast cycle of the Islamic holiday of Ramadan is based on the lunar cycle of the moon at its crescent phase in the sky. The image of the crescent moon in Islam came straight from the idol worship of the moon god alilah and was carried over into Islam’s worship of Allah. The cult of the moon god was extremely prevalent and popular among ancient civilizations of the Middle East. The Babylonians, Sumerians, Persians,
The Assyrians, and Akkadians were avid worshipers of the moon god who took on various names down through the millenniums; the most popular names being the moon god Sin (no joking here), and Bel of Babylon. In Muhammad’s day, his name was “Al-Ilah” which was later changed into the name “Allah” of Islam. When Muhammad rose to military power and his creation of the Muslim religion was gaining ground in Arabia, around 630 A.D., he conquered Mecca and purged the Kabah of the 360 or so Arab gods except for one, Allah the moon god, whom he and his tribe exclusively worshipped. He proclaimed Allah as the one true God and left the black stone idol in the Kabah as a visible reminder of this. Christians and Jews living in that region naturally refused to accept Muhammad’s claim because they already knew Allah was the moon god and to accept such was to commit the sin of idolatry. For their refusal, Muhammad slaughtered most of them and subjugated the rest. The Bible repeatedly condemns idolatry of every form and kind. The first and second of the Ten Commandments expressly forbid the worship of other gods and idols (see Exodus 20:3-5). The Old Testament repeatedly condemned the worship of the moon god (Deuteronomy 4:19, 17:3; 2 Kings 21:3, 5; Jeremiah 8:2; 19:13). The Bible says that behind every idol believed and worshipped, whether Allah or any other, are demon spirits (Deuteronomy 32:17; 1 Corinthians 10:20). Therefore, when one worships them, he is worshipping demons. Unbeknownst to Muslims, Allah is not the same Yahweh God of the Bible in which Jews and Christians believe, but rather a demon spirit in the form of the idol moon god Allah falsely claimed by Islam as the one true God. Anyone claiming Allah is the same God of Christians, Jews, and Muslims is ignorant, lazy in their thinking, and sloppy in their research. We concur with the summative comments of Dr. Robert Morey in his excellent book, “The Islamic Invasion”, about the real historical and spiritual origins of the Islamic god Allah:
The Muslim’s claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archaeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient moon god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the moon god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
The Assyrians, and Akkadians were avid worshipers of the moon god who took on various names down through the millenniums; the most popular names being the moon god Sin (no joking here), and Bel of Babylon. In Muhammad’s day, his name was “Al-Ilah” which was later changed into the name “Allah” of Islam. When Muhammad rose to military power and his creation of the Muslim religion was gaining ground in Arabia, around 630 A.D., he conquered Mecca and purged the Kabah of the 360 or so Arab gods except for one, Allah the moon god, whom he and his tribe exclusively worshipped. He proclaimed Allah as the one true God and left the black stone idol in the Kabah as a visible reminder of this. Christians and Jews living in that region naturally refused to accept Muhammad’s claim because they already knew Allah was the moon god and to accept such was to commit the sin of idolatry. For their refusal, Muhammad slaughtered most of them and subjugated the rest. The Bible repeatedly condemns idolatry of every form and kind. The first and second of the Ten Commandments expressly forbid the worship of other gods and idols (see Exodus 20:3-5). The Old Testament repeatedly condemned the worship of the moon god (Deuteronomy 4:19, 17:3; 2 Kings 21:3, 5; Jeremiah 8:2; 19:13). The Bible says that behind every idol believed and worshipped, whether Allah or any other, are demon spirits (Deuteronomy 32:17; 1 Corinthians 10:20). Therefore, when one worships them, he is worshipping demons. Unbeknownst to Muslims, Allah is not the same Yahweh God of the Bible in which Jews and Christians believe, but rather a demon spirit in the form of the idol moon god Allah falsely claimed by Islam as the one true God. Anyone claiming Allah is the same God of Christians, Jews, and Muslims is ignorant, lazy in their thinking, and sloppy in their research. We concur with the summative comments of Dr. Robert Morey in his excellent book, “The Islamic Invasion”, about the real historical and spiritual origins of the Islamic god Allah:
The Muslim’s claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archaeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient moon god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the moon god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
ninja007
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RAMADAN AND ITS ROOTS
Ramadan has Pagan Roots in India and the Middle East
Ramadan, the ninth month of the Islamic calendar and the rigid observance ofthirty days of fasting during the daylight hours, has pagan roots developed inIndia and the Middle East. The observance of fasting to honor the moon, and ending the fast when themoon’s crescent appears, was practiced with the rituals of the Eastern worshippersof the moon. Both Ibn al-Nadim and the Shahrastani tell us about al-Jandrikinieh, an Indian sect which began to fast when the moon disappeared andended the fast with a great feast when the crescent reappeared[1].
The Sabians, who were pagans in the Middle East, were identified with twogroups, the Mandaeans and the Harranians. The Mandaeans lived in Iraq during the2nd century A.D. As they continue to do today, they worshipped multiple gods,or “light personalities.” Their gods were classified under four categories: “first life,” “second life,”“third life”and “fourth life.” Old gods belongto the “first life” category. They summoned deities who, in turn, created “second life”deities, and so forth.
The other group, considered as Sabians, were the Harranians. They worshippedSin, the moon, as their main deity, but they also worshipped planets and other deities. The Sabians were in contact with Ahnaf, an Arabian group which Mohammed joinedbefore claiming to be a prophet. Ahnaf sought knowledge by going to NorthernIraq, where there were many communities of Mandaeans. They also went to thecity of Harran in the al-Jazirah district in northern Syria on the borderbetween Syria, Iraq and Asia Minor.
Ramadan was a pagan ceremony practiced by the Sabians, whether they wereHarranians or Sabians. From the writings of Abu Zanad, an Arabic writer from Iraqwho lived around 747 A.D., we conclude that at least one Mandaean communitylocated in northern Iraq observed Ramadan[ii][2].
Ramadan was Originally an Annual Ritual Performed at the City of Harran. Similarities Between the Ramadan of Harran and the Islamic Ramadan.
Although the fasting of Ramadan was practiced in pre-Islamic times by the pagansof Jahiliyah, it was introduced to Arabia by the Harranians. Harran was a cityon the border between Syria and Iraq, very close to Asia Minor which, today, isTurkey. Their main deity was the moon, and in the worship of the moon, theyconducted a major fast which lasted thirty days. It began the eighth of March andusually finished the eighth of April. Arabic historians, such as Ibn Hazm, identifythis fast with Ramadan.[iii][3]
No shit dood. EVERY organized religion has pagan ritual roots. You're just figuring this out?
Roadrunner
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That is a bit fancy for a truck, so I guess I agree 100%.
My work truck is functional and necessary.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a truck with only two doors, and non-power windows?
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RAMADAN AND ITS ROOTS
Ramadan has Pagan Roots in India and the Middle East
Ramadan, the ninth month of the Islamic calendar and the rigid observance ofthirty days of fasting during the daylight hours, has pagan roots developed inIndia and the Middle East. The observance of fasting to honor the moon, and ending the fast when themoon’s crescent appears, was practiced with the rituals of the Eastern worshippersof the moon. Both Ibn al-Nadim and the Shahrastani tell us about al-Jandrikinieh, an Indian sect which began to fast when the moon disappeared andended the fast with a great feast when the crescent reappeared[1].
The Sabians, who were pagans in the Middle East, were identified with twogroups, the Mandaeans and the Harranians. The Mandaeans lived in Iraq during the2nd century A.D. As they continue to do today, they worshipped multiple gods,or “light personalities.” Their gods were classified under four categories: “first life,” “second life,”“third life”and “fourth life.” Old gods belongto the “first life” category. They summoned deities who, in turn, created “second life”deities, and so forth.
The other group, considered as Sabians, were the Harranians. They worshippedSin, the moon, as their main deity, but they also worshipped planets and other deities. The Sabians were in contact with Ahnaf, an Arabian group which Mohammed joinedbefore claiming to be a prophet. Ahnaf sought knowledge by going to NorthernIraq, where there were many communities of Mandaeans. They also went to thecity of Harran in the al-Jazirah district in northern Syria on the borderbetween Syria, Iraq and Asia Minor.
Ramadan was a pagan ceremony practiced by the Sabians, whether they wereHarranians or Sabians. From the writings of Abu Zanad, an Arabic writer from Iraqwho lived around 747 A.D., we conclude that at least one Mandaean communitylocated in northern Iraq observed Ramadan[ii][2].
Ramadan was Originally an Annual Ritual Performed at the City of Harran. Similarities Between the Ramadan of Harran and the Islamic Ramadan.
Although the fasting of Ramadan was practiced in pre-Islamic times by the pagansof Jahiliyah, it was introduced to Arabia by the Harranians. Harran was a cityon the border between Syria and Iraq, very close to Asia Minor which, today, isTurkey. Their main deity was the moon, and in the worship of the moon, theyconducted a major fast which lasted thirty days. It began the eighth of March andusually finished the eighth of April. Arabic historians, such as Ibn Hazm, identifythis fast with Ramadan.[iii][3]
No shit dood. EVERY organized religion has pagan ritual roots. You're just figuring this out?
Some more than others.
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Jews are guilty of the same thing. More so since their religion is older.
Deities of the ancient Near East
Levantine (Canaanite)[hide]
By early post-biblical times, the name of Yahweh had ceased to be pronounced. In modern Judaism, it is replaced with the word Adonai, meaning Lord, and is understood to be God's proper name and to denote his mercy.[8] Many Christian Bibles follow the Jewish custom and replace it with "the LORD".
Yahweh - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
In the same way, Jews are basically pagans and heathens. They worships the SAME moon god. It is just not so obvious.
"One of the false gods the Jews worshipped was Yah. This pagan idol has its roots in Babylon and in Egypt. This is the lunar or moon god. In Babylon the moon god is called "Ia" or Ya. It has both a female and a male identity. In Egypt the Babylonian female "Ia or Ya" was changed into a male god and the female god was named "shua" and made the sky god. When a person then combines these forms into Iashua or Yahshua they have made the moon god the sky god.
This Babylonian/Egypt deity is also called Baal throughout the Scriptures. The Jews did worshiped the moon god when they apostated into idolatry from the true God Ehyeh asher Ehyeh (Elohim/Adonai). Look up the word moon in Hebrew and it is "yareah" which is the same as "Yahweh." Modern Hebrew spells it different now to distort the real identity of their ancient Yah god. They now spell it "yareach." No matter, real scholars know the truth!
The Yah moon god remains controversial. Why? Because scholars are fearful to say the Jewish god Yah is the same as the Babylonian god "Ia-ya" and or the Egyptian moon god Yah. They feel this somehow may cause loss of faith in the Jews and in the true God of the Jews. They are fearful and reluctant to make this bold connection because it brings into question the tetragrammaton god YHVH or YHWH since both incorporate the "Yah" deity into their name constructions as "Yahveh or Yahweh." The evidence however is quite strong and overwhelming that Yah is an idol god.
This moon god also has the name of Thoth. It is because there are two names for this same idol that scholars can draw away attention that this moon god is Yah. This is how they do it with the word Baal also. They will not give us the real names of these Baal gods so we can observe the Jews as they moved from idol to idol and from one god to another. There were many Jewish gods. Here is a short list as we found them so far:"
The hallelujah god
Who can forget what their god told Abraham to do? Who knows how many other innocent children were slaughtered that DIDN'T make it into the records?
Deities of the ancient Near East
Levantine (Canaanite)[hide]
- Adonis
- Anat
- Asherah
- Ashima
- Astarte
- Atargatis
- Baal
- Berith
- Chemosh
- Dagon
- El
- Elyon
- Eshmun
- Hadad
- Kothar-wa-Khasis
- Melqart
- Moloch
- Mot
- Qetesh
- Resheph
- Shahar
- Shalim
- Shapash
- Yahweh
- Yam
- Yarikh
By early post-biblical times, the name of Yahweh had ceased to be pronounced. In modern Judaism, it is replaced with the word Adonai, meaning Lord, and is understood to be God's proper name and to denote his mercy.[8] Many Christian Bibles follow the Jewish custom and replace it with "the LORD".
Yahweh - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
In the same way, Jews are basically pagans and heathens. They worships the SAME moon god. It is just not so obvious.
"One of the false gods the Jews worshipped was Yah. This pagan idol has its roots in Babylon and in Egypt. This is the lunar or moon god. In Babylon the moon god is called "Ia" or Ya. It has both a female and a male identity. In Egypt the Babylonian female "Ia or Ya" was changed into a male god and the female god was named "shua" and made the sky god. When a person then combines these forms into Iashua or Yahshua they have made the moon god the sky god.
This Babylonian/Egypt deity is also called Baal throughout the Scriptures. The Jews did worshiped the moon god when they apostated into idolatry from the true God Ehyeh asher Ehyeh (Elohim/Adonai). Look up the word moon in Hebrew and it is "yareah" which is the same as "Yahweh." Modern Hebrew spells it different now to distort the real identity of their ancient Yah god. They now spell it "yareach." No matter, real scholars know the truth!
The Yah moon god remains controversial. Why? Because scholars are fearful to say the Jewish god Yah is the same as the Babylonian god "Ia-ya" and or the Egyptian moon god Yah. They feel this somehow may cause loss of faith in the Jews and in the true God of the Jews. They are fearful and reluctant to make this bold connection because it brings into question the tetragrammaton god YHVH or YHWH since both incorporate the "Yah" deity into their name constructions as "Yahveh or Yahweh." The evidence however is quite strong and overwhelming that Yah is an idol god.
This moon god also has the name of Thoth. It is because there are two names for this same idol that scholars can draw away attention that this moon god is Yah. This is how they do it with the word Baal also. They will not give us the real names of these Baal gods so we can observe the Jews as they moved from idol to idol and from one god to another. There were many Jewish gods. Here is a short list as we found them so far:"
The hallelujah god
Who can forget what their god told Abraham to do? Who knows how many other innocent children were slaughtered that DIDN'T make it into the records?
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Because of the age of Judaism, they probably have the most. Anyone familiar with the Kabbalah knows that to be the case.RAMADAN AND ITS ROOTS
Ramadan has Pagan Roots in India and the Middle East
Ramadan, the ninth month of the Islamic calendar and the rigid observance ofthirty days of fasting during the daylight hours, has pagan roots developed inIndia and the Middle East. The observance of fasting to honor the moon, and ending the fast when themoon’s crescent appears, was practiced with the rituals of the Eastern worshippersof the moon. Both Ibn al-Nadim and the Shahrastani tell us about al-Jandrikinieh, an Indian sect which began to fast when the moon disappeared andended the fast with a great feast when the crescent reappeared[1].
The Sabians, who were pagans in the Middle East, were identified with twogroups, the Mandaeans and the Harranians. The Mandaeans lived in Iraq during the2nd century A.D. As they continue to do today, they worshipped multiple gods,or “light personalities.” Their gods were classified under four categories: “first life,” “second life,”“third life”and “fourth life.” Old gods belongto the “first life” category. They summoned deities who, in turn, created “second life”deities, and so forth.
The other group, considered as Sabians, were the Harranians. They worshippedSin, the moon, as their main deity, but they also worshipped planets and other deities. The Sabians were in contact with Ahnaf, an Arabian group which Mohammed joinedbefore claiming to be a prophet. Ahnaf sought knowledge by going to NorthernIraq, where there were many communities of Mandaeans. They also went to thecity of Harran in the al-Jazirah district in northern Syria on the borderbetween Syria, Iraq and Asia Minor.
Ramadan was a pagan ceremony practiced by the Sabians, whether they wereHarranians or Sabians. From the writings of Abu Zanad, an Arabic writer from Iraqwho lived around 747 A.D., we conclude that at least one Mandaean communitylocated in northern Iraq observed Ramadan[ii][2].
Ramadan was Originally an Annual Ritual Performed at the City of Harran. Similarities Between the Ramadan of Harran and the Islamic Ramadan.
Although the fasting of Ramadan was practiced in pre-Islamic times by the pagansof Jahiliyah, it was introduced to Arabia by the Harranians. Harran was a cityon the border between Syria and Iraq, very close to Asia Minor which, today, isTurkey. Their main deity was the moon, and in the worship of the moon, theyconducted a major fast which lasted thirty days. It began the eighth of March andusually finished the eighth of April. Arabic historians, such as Ibn Hazm, identifythis fast with Ramadan.[iii][3]
No shit dood. EVERY organized religion has pagan ritual roots. You're just figuring this out?
Some more than others.
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