Mohammed Abu Khder

[Lipush]

you don't believe Israeli sources, but you want us to believe a site called "electronic intifada"??

funny thing, you

 

[amity1844]

Muslim extremism claims one more life, eh?

You Muslim & Palestinian guys really should do something about this problem of yours.

Recognize Israel's right to exist in peace and your lives will get better very quickly.

Try it.

You'll like it.

Otherwise, stop your bitchin.

Did anyone point out how crazy this is? If not, let me be the first.
Is he/she accusing this dead boy of Muslim extremism?

Recognize Palestinian right to resist illegal occupation of their land and your lives will get better quickly.

 

[Coyote]

UPDATE: Electronic Intifada has published a video displaying the faces of the likely Israeli killers...

Now there's 'objectivity' for ya...

Hell, if Electronic Intifada said that water is wet, I'd ask for a second opinion...

That is exactly how I feel about anything coming out of Israeli official channels. Those people LIE. Have an entire organization devoted to the crafting of lies, in fact.

But I would be interested in seeing you debunk anything published on e-intifada.
Just anything! I think they are quite reliable, but always reserve final judgment. So go right ahead and substantiate what you've implied ... can you?

E-Intafada is like using barenakedislam and jihadwatch as sources. Heavily biased at BEST.

 

[amity1844]

CAIR Claims American Teen Visiting Jerusalem Attacked by Israeli Defense Forces — But Reason High Schooler Traveled There May Surprise You

Jul. 6, 2014 12:25am

Tariq Khdeir, 15, was attending a demonstration related to the death of his cousin, Mohammed Abu Khdeir, a 16-year-old Arab who was killed reportedly in revenge for the three dead Israeli teens who were abducted in the West Bank last month.

[...]

johnadamsinvisiblehand -Jul. 6, 2014 at 1:06am

Perhaps someone can tell me why the State Department intervenes on behalf of this little jihadist, but the State Department will not intervene on behalf of Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi who is still wrongfully jailed in Mexico (and has been beaten and tortured more than this little punk). Obama cares more about jihadists than marines, and is more critical of Israel than corrupt Mexico.

CAIR Claims American Teen Visiting Jerusalem Attacked by Israeli Defense Forces ? But Reason High Schooler Traveled There May Surprise You | Video | TheBlaze.com

Okay, first you say he travelled there for a demonstration related to the death of his cousin, and then you call him a jihadist.

SO WHICH IS IT?

 

[amity1844]

This conflict of hate has stirred a war with Islam. I think its too late for peace...

pbel, I believe that if everyone who wants peace will turn to the extremist nearest them and say "shut up, hater, we cannot afford to leave you in control any longer" ... that peace will be found just around the corner, actually.

 

[Hollie]

Muslim extremism claims one more life, eh?

You Muslim & Palestinian guys really should do something about this problem of yours.

Recognize Israel's right to exist in peace and your lives will get better very quickly.

Try it.

You'll like it.

Otherwise, stop your bitchin.

Did anyone point out how crazy this is? If not, let me be the first.
Is he/she accusing this dead boy of Muslim extremism?

Recognize Palestinian right to resist illegal occupation of their land and your lives will get better quickly.

Cheap slogans: "Recognize Palestinian right to resist illegal occupation of their land and your lives will get better quickly", are never met with anything but ridicule.

They might make sense to islamists as an expedient to aid in Islam's spread, but once you begin to study the (immutable) texts of the koran and hadith, you begin to see the truth of Islam's poisonous hatred of anything unIslamic. It's when you delve beneath the dishonest veneer that Moslems present to the kuffar that you encounter its inflexible, virulent hostility to everything and everyone outside of the xenophobic fold of Islam.

Here’s your homework assignment: read the Hamas Charter and let us know what you find regarding their claim to an islamist waqf and how that applies to the state of Israel.

 

[amity1844]

I'm not thinking blame Hossfly, in fact - blame seems to be overriding the fact that these murdered kids were individuals.

That seems to be overlooked - even to the point of smearing their character.

I've been trying to get away from posting because the inhumanity of this conflict is nauseating...The atrocities by both sides is standard behavior...The hate created will in the end in silence for Zionism because it has become the cause for stirring up Islamic anger which has created the Arab Spring, this is only the beginning...Killing of those poor boys on both sides is proof enough of what the future brings...

This conflict of hate has stirred a war with Islam. I think its too late for peace...

Nothing at all to do with Zionism, but it has everything to do with Islamic religious commands.

Phoenall, when I hear the word "extremist" your name is one that comes to mind. I wish you would reflect on what you write, attacking Muslims at every opprtunity. I think if I were to lament the high price of dish detergent you would find some way to blame muslims for it, and for no good reason.

Please make sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear.

 

[irosie91]

This conflict of hate has stirred a war with Islam. I think its too late for peace...

pbel, I believe that if everyone who wants peace will turn to the extremist nearest them and say "shut up, hater, we cannot afford to leave you in control any longer" ... that peace will be found just around the corner, actually.

really? you think that the entire action in Syria can be ended by just translating
"shut up, hater, we cannot afford to leave you in control...." into Arabic and
yelling it out five times per day from the minarets? great idea-------you know lots
of people in the area--------GET IT DONE

 

[rhodescholar]

Phoenall, when I hear the word "extremist" your name is one that comes to mind. I wish you would reflect on what you write, attacking Muslims at every opprtunity. I think if I were to lament the high price of dish detergent you would find some way to blame muslims for it, and for no good reason.

Please make sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear.

Instead of posting horseshit attacking jews all day long, why don't you tell everyone why arab muslims are the most racist filth on earth, being unable to get along with any other group.

So the jews are wrong, are the copts, maronites, assyrians, manaechans, bahai, orthodox christians, chaldeans, kurds and azeri all wrong also? How come every other minority in the mideast is being attacked/oppressed by arab muslims, and ethnically cleansed from the mideast?

You are a $2 fraud who is so utterly determined to discuss the jews, thinking that you are magically keeping the spotlight off of the horrific arab muslims, but you are failing miserably. The arab muslims are a cancer on this planet, and until the death cult islam is eradicated, they will continue to be so.

 

[amity1844]

E-Intafada is like using barenakedislam and jihadwatch as sources. Heavily biased at BEST.

Well, it is certainly pro-Palestinian with no pretense to neutrality, but how does that make it unreliable?

I believe there is no such thing as neutrality and any attempt to portray oneself as such is just an attempt to appropriate credibility from elsewhere.

But bias is not the same as spin, distortion, and lying. So far everything I have seen on e-intifada has been proven to be true, and journalists take it as a reliable source too.

 

[Hollie]

This conflict of hate has stirred a war with Islam. I think its too late for peace...

pbel, I believe that if everyone who wants peace will turn to the extremist nearest them and say "shut up, hater, we cannot afford to leave you in control any longer" ... that peace will be found just around the corner, actually.

really? you think that the entire action in Syria can be ended by just translating
"shut up, hater, we cannot afford to leave you in control...." into Arabic and
yelling it out five times per day from the minarets? great idea-------you know lots
of people in the area--------GET IT DONE

I agree, Rosie. I’d love to see amity1844 do some overseas outreach. Let her travel to Syria, stand in front of muhammud… and the other muhammud waving their AK-47's around and explain to them how misguided they are and that they should just shut-up.

Yeah – that should go real well.

 

[amity1844]

Muslim extremism claims one more life, eh?

You Muslim & Palestinian guys really should do something about this problem of yours.

Recognize Israel's right to exist in peace and your lives will get better very quickly.

Try it.

You'll like it.

Otherwise, stop your bitchin.

Did anyone point out how crazy this is? If not, let me be the first.
Is he/she accusing this dead boy of Muslim extremism?

Recognize Palestinian right to resist illegal occupation of their land and your lives will get better quickly.

Cheap slogans: "Recognize Palestinian right to resist illegal occupation of their land and your lives will get better quickly", are never met with anything but ridicule.

They might make sense to islamists as an expedient to aid in Islam's spread, but once you begin to study the (immutable) texts of the koran and hadith, you begin to see the truth of Islam's poisonous hatred of anything unIslamic. It's when you delve beneath the dishonest veneer that Moslems present to the kuffar that you encounter its inflexible, virulent hostility to everything and everyone outside of the xenophobic fold of Islam.

Here’s your homework assignment: read the Hamas Charter and let us know what you find regarding their claim to an islamist waqf and how that applies to the state of Israel.

You don't get it.

You CAN'T kill all Muslims. I realize the thought of trying might turn you on, but the rest of us aren't going to let you.

So you are going to have to learn to live with Muslims and love them as brothers or the rest of us will make you go sit in a corner for the rest of the millenium. Because we are too effing smart to want to go to war with 1/4 of the earth's population.

Any hater who starts talking about hadiths and suras as if he/she knew something about it manifestly has his/her head up his/her butt. Never trust anyone who demonstrates contempt for a subject in which they claim to have expertise. They are invariably full of crap.

I am a Palestinian nationalist. Palestinians do not all think with the same brain. Some understand their struggle in terms of leftist revolutionary ideas, some in terms of rightist Muslim religious rationale, and some in a very moderate secular frame of reference. I am only interested in the lowest common denominator among them all.

I read a biography of Muhammad once, and I read through an English translation of Qu'ran once. That is about as far as I am interested in going with that subject right now. I am absorbed with Palestine/Israel and will not be sidetracked into unproductive rabbit chases and peripheral issues.

If you enjoy being paranoid and hating Muslims, go for it. Neither they nor I could care less. But do not pollute our ears with your version of how radical Islam is at the bottom of all the world's woes.

 

[Coyote]

E-Intafada is like using barenakedislam and jihadwatch as sources. Heavily biased at BEST.

Well, it is certainly pro-Palestinian with no pretense to neutrality, but how does that make it unreliable?

I believe there is no such thing as neutrality and any attempt to portray oneself as such is just an attempt to appropriate credibility from elsewhere.

But bias is not the same as spin, distortion, and lying. So far everything I have seen on e-intifada has been proven to be true, and journalists take it as a reliable source too.

I agree - nothing is totally neutral, but bias can run hand in hand with spin, distortion and lying. Actually, I was wrong in comparing it to what I did, as it's not a hate site - it's more comparable to groups like Camera, which have a stated bias and agenda to "counter" disinformation. Often that means creating more disinformation.

 

[amity1844]

death to fcuking idiocy.

 

[amity1844]

E-Intafada is like using barenakedislam and jihadwatch as sources. Heavily biased at BEST.

Well, it is certainly pro-Palestinian with no pretense to neutrality, but how does that make it unreliable?

I believe there is no such thing as neutrality and any attempt to portray oneself as such is just an attempt to appropriate credibility from elsewhere.

But bias is not the same as spin, distortion, and lying. So far everything I have seen on e-intifada has been proven to be true, and journalists take it as a reliable source too.

I agree - nothing is totally neutral, but bias can run hand in hand with spin, distortion and lying. Actually, I was wrong in comparing it to what I did, as it's not a hate site - it's more comparable to groups like Camera, which have a stated bias and agenda to "counter" disinformation. Often that means creating more disinformation.

Fair enough. I haven't caught them in anything yet, but Ali Abunimah isn't god almighty, and its always a good idea to try to think critically when reading any news source.

 

[irosie91]

They might make sense to islamists as an expedient to aid in Islam's spread, but once you begin to study the (immutable) texts of the koran and hadith, you begin to see the truth of Islam's poisonous hatred of anything unIslamic. It's when you delve beneath the dishonest veneer that Moslems present to the kuffar that you encounter its inflexible, virulent hostility to everything and everyone outside of the xenophobic fold of Islam.

Here’s your homework assignment: read the Hamas Charter and let us know what you find regarding their claim to an islamist waqf and how that applies to the state of Israel.

Hollie--- you have made a very important point---- In fact----justification for violent
"jihad" has since the lifetime of the rapist of mecca BEEN BLOOD LIBEL The
justification for the comprehensive genocide of jews in Arabia was-----a blood libel---
the claim of a single 'murder' Since that time-----the entire age of "ISLAMIC
CONQUEST" ---which cost the lives of hundreds of millions has been styled by the
followers of the rapist of mecca "DEFENSE OF ISLAAAAAM" ------a belief that
"muslims are being oppressed" in any country not fully controlled by muslims----
is the rationale for bloody attack. It did not even take a blood libel to galvanize
invasion-------just a feeling that ISLAM IS NOT ADORED as it should properly be
anywhere in the world <<<< that is history---as it is actually presented to muslim
kids in muslim schools (not the bloody part----the idea that muslims fight ONLY
in self defense or IN DEFENSE OF ISLAAAAM) I learned it from muslims---and in
a mosque where Christians were described as THE ENEMEEEEES OF ISLAAAAAAM---
for writing that ---horrible fake book ----the new testament (it was a good Friday---
in manhattan, New York------not more than two miles from the site where the
world trade center would later be built)

 

[Hollie]

Did anyone point out how crazy this is? If not, let me be the first.
Is he/she accusing this dead boy of Muslim extremism?

Recognize Palestinian right to resist illegal occupation of their land and your lives will get better quickly.

Cheap slogans: "Recognize Palestinian right to resist illegal occupation of their land and your lives will get better quickly", are never met with anything but ridicule.

They might make sense to islamists as an expedient to aid in Islam's spread, but once you begin to study the (immutable) texts of the koran and hadith, you begin to see the truth of Islam's poisonous hatred of anything unIslamic. It's when you delve beneath the dishonest veneer that Moslems present to the kuffar that you encounter its inflexible, virulent hostility to everything and everyone outside of the xenophobic fold of Islam.

Here’s your homework assignment: read the Hamas Charter and let us know what you find regarding their claim to an islamist waqf and how that applies to the state of Israel.

You don't get it.

You CAN'T kill all Muslims. I realize the thought of trying might turn you on, but the rest of us aren't going to let you.

So you are going to have to learn to live with Muslims and love them as brothers or the rest of us will make you go sit in a corner for the rest of the millenium. Because we are too effing smart to want to go to war with 1/4 of the earth's population.

Any hater who starts talking about hadiths and suras as if he/she knew something about it manifestly has his/her head up his/her butt. Never trust anyone who demonstrates contempt for a subject in which they claim to have expertise. They are invariably full of crap.

I am a Palestinian nationalist. Palestinians do not all think with the same brain. Some understand their struggle in terms of leftist revolutionary ideas, some in terms of rightist Muslim religious rationale, and some in a very moderate secular frame of reference. I am only interested in the lowest common denominator among them all.

I read a biography of Muhammad once, and I read through an English translation of Qu'ran once. That is about as far as I am interested in going with that subject right now. I am absorbed with Palestine/Israel and will not be sidetracked into unproductive rabbit chases and peripheral issues.

If you enjoy being paranoid and hating Muslims, go for it. Neither they nor I could care less. But do not pollute our ears with your version of how radical Islam is at the bottom of all the world's woes.

That's a lot of back-stroking for your failure to do your homework assignment.

Once again, you need read the Hamas Charter and understand the concept of waqf as it applies to land perceived to be an islamist entitlement.

Sidestepping as you did by hurling the silly "you just hate moslems" doesn't address the intransigent moslem mindset.

The Hamas Charter is an ideological proscription for Jew hatred and for the islamist concept of waqf. The “occupation” meme is an excuse for Hamas to press their agenda of islamist fascism.

Is it just a coincidence that so many, if not most of the moslem "freedom fighters" and non-governmental militia in the islamist middle east have religious sur-names for their murderous boys clubs? HAmas, Hezbollah, Fatah Al Islam, Islamic Brotherhood, etc., are just a few of these armed militias. It's actually comically tragic that these groups are actually more adept at mass murdering their co-religionists than gaining "freedom" from anyone or anything. In fact, these groups are only adept at installing totalitarianism that replaces the totalitarianism they carelessly blame others for maintaining. Doesn't that seem a bit "taboo" to name your fighting forces to coincide with your religious beliefs when those beliefs do nothing more than enslave and oppress?

 

[flacaltenn]

Any ******* daft attempt to help murdering bastards is good enough for you, even if your pathetic shit is considered utterly contemptible by anyone reasonable.

BBC News - Suspects held over Palestinian Mohammad Abu Khdair murder

Freddie ----I would be a good idea if you stop posting your stinking pathetic
halal jihadist shit

I think you should read this, thankfully the majority of decent Jews will agree with Danny Ayalon
The Jewish Press » » Danny Ayalon Condemns Abu Khdeir Murder

That's more like it.. Not hard to find condemnation of senseless killing as "retribution".
That's what civilized responsible societies will do..

 

[flacaltenn]

This conflict of hate has stirred a war with Islam. I think its too late for peace...

pbel, I believe that if everyone who wants peace will turn to the extremist nearest them and say "shut up, hater, we cannot afford to leave you in control any longer" ... that peace will be found just around the corner, actually.

If only the Palestinians in the occupied sections of Israel would choose their LEADERSHIP by that rule --- there would be progress.. When can we expect that to happen??? When will there be a trustworthy political infrastructure for the Pali people?

 

[aris2chat]

So, when shall their homes be demolished?

Street hipstography: Where voyeur meets social media | The Times of Israel teen

"Official said to confirm attack was revenge for slaying of three Israeli teens; Muhammed Abu Khdeir’s mother: Demolish their homes"

After Rabin was murder, did they demolish Hertzliya?

There was an attempt to firebomb the home. It was put out by someone passing by at the time.