Mohammed Abu Khder

[I.P.Freely]

I would say at first glance that video was inconclusive and shows very little.

I wonder if the investigators will water board the six prisoners.

I believe that the cops will crack the cases quickly----both of them----both were done
sloppily---- so far are any of the Hamas pigs in custody or are they being
protected by their fans?

 

[Lipush]

I wonder if the investigators will water board the six prisoners.

I believe that the cops will crack the cases quickly----both of them----both were done
sloppily---- so far are any of the Hamas pigs in custody or are they being
protected by their fans?

She asked a fair question....

 

[Lipush]

A blessed initiative: Mayor of Jerusalem, Nir Barkat, initiated a phone call between uncle of Naftalie Frenkel (HY"D) and father of Muhammad Abu Khder. It was a positive conversation, both relatives comforted each-others' loss.

 

[Indofred]

I would say at first glance that video was inconclusive and shows very little.

I wonder if the investigators will water board the six prisoners.

I believe that the cops will crack the cases quickly----both of them----both were done
sloppily---- so far are any of the Hamas pigs in custody or are they being
protected by their fans?

In a thread about the missing child and the even more missing interest in the person, not the events that led up to his death, you're doing a very nice job of being a daft ****.

Frankly, you're pathetic.

 

[Indofred]

A blessed initiative: Mayor of Jerusalem, Nir Barkat, initiated a phone call between uncle of Naftalie Frenkel (HY"D) and father of Muhammad Abu Khder. It was a positive conversation, both relatives comforted each-others' loss.

That's exactly what this situation needs.
Two people, both suffering loss, understanding each other.

All this pathetic 'eye for an eye. tit for tat', retaliation just causes more and more trouble.

 

[Lipush]

A blessed initiative: Mayor of Jerusalem, Nir Barkat, initiated a phone call between uncle of Naftalie Frenkel (HY"D) and father of Muhammad Abu Khder. It was a positive conversation, both relatives comforted each-others' loss.

That's exactly what this situation needs.
Two people, both suffering loss, understanding each other.

All this pathetic 'eye for an eye. tit for tat', retaliation just causes more and more trouble.

I for an eye is ok, when it's targeted to the right places, like the terrorists who actually killed the three. But taking the life of that boy is not an eye for an eye. It's just doubles the wrongness, nothing more.

 

[irosie91]

A blessed initiative: Mayor of Jerusalem, Nir Barkat, initiated a phone call between uncle of Naftalie Frenkel (HY"D) and father of Muhammad Abu Khder. It was a positive conversation, both relatives comforted each-others' loss.

That's exactly what this situation needs.
Two people, both suffering loss, understanding each other.

All this pathetic 'eye for an eye. tit for tat', retaliation just causes more and more trouble.

there is no question that the revenge murder idea causes more trouble----but the fact is that
----to what does your "all this..." refer? The fact is that jews have been the targets
of Islamic murder for 1400 years -------and simply DID NOT RETALIATE
"Retaliation" for the actions of the filthy rapist pig in Khayber is still pending. and for tens of
thousands of pogroms, rapes, murders, enslavements to the filth of the worship of the pig.
Long long ago I predicted that one day------the response to the filth of the
jihadist pigs would happen -----in fact it was about 45 years ago-----my comment
to the confident Pakistani surgeon who smiled when he said "there is nothing
you can do..," (in response to airport terrorism) "the hijackers wear no uniforms----
and they either die or disappear..." I said---"but any people can do that...." He laughed
and shook his head. The criminals who murdered muhummad abu kaider simply
**********EMULATED AL NABI*********

emulation of jihadi filth IS DISGUSTING ----but it was inevitable when imams scream
their "death to" farts------they should begin warning---"but remember----they can do
the same to us....."

today ---in the USA----their are lots of Syrian Christians-----all the Syrians I knew
when I was a child were Christians-------maybe some day they will decide to remember
what happened to their relatives in Syria---------

 

[I.P.Freely]

A blessed initiative: Mayor of Jerusalem, Nir Barkat, initiated a phone call between uncle of Naftalie Frenkel (HY"D) and father of Muhammad Abu Khder. It was a positive conversation, both relatives comforted each-others' loss.

That's exactly what this situation needs.
Two people, both suffering loss, understanding each other.

All this pathetic 'eye for an eye. tit for tat', retaliation just causes more and more trouble.

I for an eye is ok, when it's targeted to the right places, like the terrorists who actually killed the three. But taking the life of that boy is not an eye for an eye. It's just doubles the wrongness, nothing more.

but according to you you sanctimonious **** it was an honour killing because he was gay, When are you going to publicly apologise?

 

[Lipush]

That's exactly what this situation needs.
Two people, both suffering loss, understanding each other.

All this pathetic 'eye for an eye. tit for tat', retaliation just causes more and more trouble.

I for an eye is ok, when it's targeted to the right places, like the terrorists who actually killed the three. But taking the life of that boy is not an eye for an eye. It's just doubles the wrongness, nothing more.

but according to you you sanctimonious **** it was an honour killing because he was gay, When are you going to publicly apologise?

Your insults are frankly disgusting. I will not take you seriously till you learn to use less pathetic language.

 

[MHunterB]

Your context is not clear. If you meant on this board - that isn't accurate.

If you meant in the Israeli press - that isn't accurate either.

And I find it curious that you seem to have ignored the many examples of "Palestinians" celebrating and gloating over the kidnapping of Eyal, Gilad and Naftali. It is looking -from this one post! - as though your 'beyond disgust' is quite selective, which of course is your privilege and your decision...... I am hoping this one post above has been worded poorly or that I've misunderstood it : ((

I don't see "disgust" in any of your posts, so I guess Coyote was a little more accurate than you claim?

Nobody but you is responsible for your vision problems, Billo. You haven't seemed to notice that your brilliant 'solution' of shelling Israel until they do as YOU wish would be a gross violation of the US Constitution which you claim to respect more than I do - as well as the violation of many treaties and other 'international law'.

 

[docmauser1]

That's exactly what this situation needs. Two people, both suffering loss, understanding each other. All this pathetic 'eye for an eye. tit for tat', retaliation just causes more and more trouble.

Some UN PR bureaucrat would write that, indeed, while on one side there're jews, with a cool claim to the land, and on the other one there're arabs, obsessed with a not-so-cool dream of taking a jewish home over, of course.

 

[Coyote]

A boy is murdered and because he is not Jewish, there is no demand for justice, no sorrow, no photos demanding "never again".

There is not even acknowledgement that this 16 year old was robbed of his future.

Simply. Wow.

I'm beyond disgusted.

Your context is not clear. If you meant on this board - that isn't accurate.

If you meant in the Israeli press - that isn't accurate either.

And I find it curious that you seem to have ignored the many examples of "Palestinians" celebrating and gloating over the kidnapping of Eyal, Gilad and Naftali. It is looking -from this one post! - as though your 'beyond disgust' is quite selective, which of course is your privilege and your decision...... I am hoping this one post above has been worded poorly or that I've misunderstood it : ((

My context is the members of this board only - though I wrote that post on 7/5 and since then, arrests, have been made and there have been some comments expressing anger and disgust at the act so my statement is now outdated.

I was not talking about anything outside of this board.

You shouldn't find it curious that I ignored the examples of Palestinians "celebrating". I also ignored the thread about certain Israeli's "celebrating". Those are seperate issues and if I'm going to post anything, I'd rather it be stuff about murders rather than the politicizing and attempts to make the victims something larger than they are - symbols of something they had no part of. They are 4 dead children who had their future ripped away. We'll never know what they might have been or done.

So yes Marge - I'm going to ignore all that stuff.

Edited to add - I should make it more clear why I wrote what I wrote. In the thread about the 3 Israeli teens - multiple people wrote how their killers should be hunted down like animals and killed - many harsh condemnations. In this thread - up until the police made plain who was behind the killings - there was none of that. In fact, many of those who made those comments, remain silent on this boys murder. That I find sad and telling. Kudus to you and Lipush and others who condemned it for what it was.

 

[irosie91]

the members of this board live in the world ----which is not confined to this messageboard. Some
are not even confined to the islamo Nazi mindset. I am so reminded of something told to me
long ago by a very intelligent young surgeon educated in Karachi, Pakistan. It was long long ago---
at that time Nelson Rockefeller was governor of New York State. The young doc in conversation
with me stated "ROCKEFLLER is a jew" I said---"no---he is protestant" ----the young surgeon
insisted until finally I said "what makes you think he is a jew'? The man stated with an obvious
sense of "logic" "HE HAS ALL THAT MONEY" I said "people with lots of money are jews" ?
LOGIC KICKED IN AGAIN and he said "OF COURSE---EVERYONE KNOWS THAT"

same logic-----it may be true that young muslim girls dance and ululate when
jewish children are murdered but EVERYONE KNOWS ---that it is the jews who
rejoice when muslims die. How do we "know"?-------you see them sobbing with
grief? did you not notice that just about no one said anything much? ----they did
not say much------nothing much------of course hamas leaders PRAISED the NOBLE
DEED of those who murdered three jewish teens------but that fact is OVERCOME---
by the fact that jews are not lying in the streets sobbing over Muhummad abu Kaider

 

[MHunterB]

Coyote - Thank you for expanding on your one post which I asked about. This 'conversation' between you and me has been an example of why people generally get better results when they refuse to allow their emotions to direct their responses.

I try to remain aware that my perception is not 'impartial', as much as I seek to be objective. I don't see how any conflict can be successfully resolved without a commitment to objectivity - which, of course can never be perfect. But it's more likely to produce a situation where both sides can at least grudgingly tolerate the outcome.

The problem is that 'it takes two to fight' is not exactly true when 'walking away' is not an available option.....at that point it only takes one.

And there are those on 'each side' who are not willing to compromise at all. The question we can ALL discuss is "How can we marginalize and diminish the power of OUR OWN extremists?" .....

 

[Coyote]

Coyote - Thank you for expanding on your one post which I asked about. This 'conversation' between you and me has been an example of why people generally get better results when they refuse to allow their emotions to direct their responses.

I try to remain aware that my perception is not 'impartial', as much as I seek to be objective. I don't see how any conflict can be successfully resolved without a commitment to objectivity - which, of course can never be perfect. But it's more likely to produce a situation where both sides can at least grudgingly tolerate the outcome.

The problem is that 'it takes two to fight' is not exactly true when 'walking away' is not an available option.....at that point it only takes one.

And there are those on 'each side' who are not willing to compromise at all. The question we can ALL discuss is "How can we marginalize and diminish the power of OUR OWN extremists?" .....

 

[Lipush]

Thank you both!

 

[MHunterB]

Until we are willing to confront the extremist views within 'our side' - how can we have the least hope of convincing ANYONE among 'the other side' that we are trying to be reasonable, and that there is any point in talking to us?

 

[Lipush]

But we are. Those who did it won't be seen as heroes, but as criminals. That is what makes us different than Hamas and Fatah.

On the day we start handing out candies and celebrate the murder of those who die this way, the day we wave our hands in victory when we hear about that and call those who do it "holy avengers" is the day I will start worrying.

While this act is horrible, it does warm my heart to see us condemn it. So no, we're nowhere near the level of our enemies.

 

[irosie91]

But we are. Those who did it won't be seen as heroes, but as criminals. That is what makes us different than Hamas and Fatah.

On the day we start handing out candies and celebrate the murder of those who die this way, the day we wave our hands in victory when we hear about that and call those who do it "holy avengers" is the day I will start worrying.

While this act is horrible, it does warm my heart to see us condemn it. So no, we're nowhere near the level of our enemies.

Lipush in the USA there is a colloquialism "you are preaching to the choir"----it refers to the
fact that in churches there is often a group of good singers----who do the hymns---generally
just members of that church-----and usually the good guys----sorta pious. That is the choir.

Those of us who know -----well---in the analogy "the choir" already know that jews do not
dance and sing over murdered arabs but the fact is -----the other people will never admit
that fact-------its nothing new-----its been going on for centuries----of course you know that
they are still talking about the old time BLOOD LIBELS. Do not feel badly----there are still
people in the USA who want to continue believing that African americans focus their thoughts
on "raping white women" You may not know------another interesting detail------in some
quarters in the USA ------jews ain't "white" ----by that I mean ------even white jews are not
"white" We got some real idiots over here. Long ago when I read their writings----those
were the people who insisted that jews are committing genocide against arabs----I first read it
way back in the 1950s-------and it was already ....kinda old stuff. Some of it was written
by Nazi war criminals living in Syria and Egypt. Some of the people here were BROUGHT up
on it

 

[MHunterB]

When each of us faces the Judge of all the Earth - He will not be asking us 'Were you better than some other person?'

He will want to know 'Were you the 'best' you could see how to be?' We've seen a couple of proper examples from Naftali's family, and from MK Zoabi's young nephew..... it's just so difficult in moments of extreme emotion to ask ourselves 'What would the person do who was really dedicated to LIVING their faith?'