Moderate Dems? very few left

[Bombur]

There are plenty of moderate Democrats, the problem is that many of them are attracted by supply side BS or have a hard time justifying helping the working people when there are poorer people to help.

 

[JimH52]

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Peterson of MN being one of them may step down. The loons of the left are getting more in control of the dems

What are you, kidding?

They are mostly right of centers in the Dem party.

name some in this forum....because you sure as hell aint one....Dean claimed once he was ..."just left of center".....and got laughed out of the thread.......any right of center Democrat would be a fairly Conservative one or can be considered a fairly Liberal Republican.....i dont see to many around here,a handful at most....

I am Harry

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Not really. Republicans have moved so far to the right in recent years that everybody else looks like a commie to them.

In what way have they moved to the right? To the right of what?

Care to list some specifics?

Well, for starters, Republicans used to only be against abortion. Now they're more pissed off about birth control than anything else, which is a debate everybody thought had been settled 40-some years ago.

On Gitmo, Republicans continue to push for hundreds of millions of dollars to expand it. This bunch pretends to care about fiscal matters, but they're just as hawkish if not more so than they don't even care that it would send our deficits higher instead of the lower trend we've seen in the last 4 years.

When Obama in the SOTU said he would not be pressured into a stupid forever war in Iran, Republicans sat there with their thumbs up their asses instead of clapping. They're itching for more war.

How many Jobs Bills have House Republicans passed since taking control of the House in January 2011? Zero.

How many anti-abortion bills have House Republicans passed in that time? They've passed more abortion bills in the last 3 years than they did in the previous 15 years.

Republicans used to believe in the Constitution, where it explicitly says that it is our duty to pay our bills and not forfeit on them. "The debt shall not be questioned", it says. But Republicans have pushed us to the brink of one manufactured economic crisis after another with their debt ceiling shenanigans, risking pain for all of us if they think that pain would make us blame Obama for it instead of them.

Republicans are terrific at blaming you for something they did. Currently, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are the Liberal Progressive wing of the Democratic party. The rest of them are big business modern Democrats that pushed for private healthcare solutions instead of a public option or single-payer when it came to reforming healthcare. That's because Democrats are also in the pockets to very rich benefactors who give them a lot of private money. Anyone who ignores this is a moron.

Democrats today have moved further to the right than the Democrats of yesteryear, who were defined as Labor Democrats, essentially. Those days are gone. Democrats today are the Moderate Republicans of 30 and 40 years ago. You can see it in their voting records.

Meanwhile, the Republican party has lurched either further to the right or right off the cliff into stupid territory. Just look at that moron representative who very nearly physically assaulted a news guy after the SOTU last night saying he would "break you in half, like a boy", whatever the **** that means.

Reagan Democrats are now Obama Republicans. Like the Eisenhower family, who endorsed Obama twice. Who would have thought a highly popular and decorated Republican military President from just 55 years ago would have his family leave the Republican party. That says something about how the Republican party today is not worthy of Eisenhower, who was definitely among the top 2 or 3 Presidents of the 20th century.

America is a center-left today no matter how you cut it. No one will ever get rid of Medicare or Social Security, because it's the will of the people, including Republican voters. Gay marriage will never just go away or be outlawed. A woman's right to choose will forever be enshrined in American law, no matter how badly Republicans today want to re-open that settled debate.

But the left-wing itself is firmly in the center-left today, and nowhere near as left-wing as they used to be.

Amazing brick of text that says astonishingly little, insofar as the specific "far right" policy positions of the current neoconservative establishment GOP.

All I see in their voting records, especially those between 2000-2006, is that they love them some big, intrusive, bureaucratic and exorbitantly spendy big government. That takes them to the left of the nutty democrats that foisted the Great Society upon us.

Care to take another stab at it?

 

[HelenaHandbag]

The Dems are the moderate party.

There are very few liberal Dems.


Get a clue.

Very true.

Today's democrats are about as un-liberal as you can get, without being total fascists.

 

[william the wie]

The Dems are the moderate party.

There are very few liberal Dems.


Get a clue.

Very true.

Today's democrats are about as un-liberal as you can get, without being total fascists.

Neo-cons Republicans run an extremely close second. That which is not required us forbidden is the real slogan of the duopoly.

 

[Harry Dresden]

What are you, kidding?

They are mostly right of centers in the Dem party.

name some in this forum....because you sure as hell aint one....Dean claimed once he was ..."just left of center".....and got laughed out of the thread.......any right of center Democrat would be a fairly Conservative one or can be considered a fairly Liberal Republican.....i dont see to many around here,a handful at most....

I am Harry

i know ....i have been in a few threads with you.....im waiting for Hazel to tell me he is right of center so i can laugh ......

 

[HelenaHandbag]

The Dems are the moderate party.

There are very few liberal Dems.


Get a clue.

Very true.

Today's democrats are about as un-liberal as you can get, without being total fascists.

Neo-cons Republicans run an extremely close second. That which is not required us forbidden is the real slogan of the duopoly.

Neoconservatives are barely discernable from Great Society leftists. They left the Democrat Party in the early '70s and infested the GOP because it was becoming increasingly peacenick.

True story.

Neocons are your intellectual brethren, sport.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

name some in this forum....because you sure as hell aint one....Dean claimed once he was ..."just left of center".....and got laughed out of the thread.......any right of center Democrat would be a fairly Conservative one or can be considered a fairly Liberal Republican.....i dont see to many around here,a handful at most....

I am Harry

i know ....i have been in a few threads with you.....im waiting for Hazel to tell me he is right of center so i can laugh ......

Ask hazl about plywood

 

[JimH52]

If I were a member of the GOP, I would be more concerned about the rising Far Right wing of that party. It has and will cost the GOP national elections. I do not agree with the premise that the Dems are dominated by liberals. I consider myself a moderate. I would love to see a moderate candidate rise through the ranks, but the TP and the far right are forcing the party to the right.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

If I were a member of the GOP, I would be more concerned about the rising Far Right wing of that party. It has and will cost the GOP national elections. I do not agree with the premise that the Dems are dominated by liberals. I consider myself a moderate. I would love to see a moderate candidate rise through the ranks, but the TP and the far right are forcing the party to the right.

You must have been in a coma the last two election cycles.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I am Harry

i know ....i have been in a few threads with you.....im waiting for Hazel to tell me he is right of center so i can laugh ......

Ask hazl about plywood

i think Hazel has me on ignore,he never replies to me.....one time to test that out called him a bunch of nice expletives...still no reply....if so he is just another ***** here like "Dottie"....

 

[Harry Dresden]

If I were a member of the GOP, I would be more concerned about the rising Far Right wing of that party. It has and will cost the GOP national elections. I do not agree with the premise that the Dems are dominated by liberals. I consider myself a moderate. I would love to see a moderate candidate rise through the ranks, but the TP and the far right are forcing the party to the right.

i was a Cons. Democrat in the 80's.....i left them in the mid 90's because people like Dean,Dotcom and Hazel were taking it over.....the Republicans as far as i was concerned were letting the Religious right have to big of a voice so i said piss on both parties.....and i think i made the right decision....look at them both today....pathetic.....