Mo Gawdat predicts that A. I. will lead to B. M. I? Is he correct?

[DennisPTate]

Mo Gawdat predicts that Artificial Intelligence and robotics will lead to the need for B. M. I., is he correct?

I believe that he is but there are certain aspects of the history of the United States that need to be widely understood before we can get this right.

We must understand that in theory three hundred and fifty million Americans own the USA Dollar itself, [but elected officials have been convinced that they own it due to the influence of a group know as "Neo-Malthusians."

"Ex-Google Exec (WARNING): The Next 15 Years Will Be Hell Before We Get To Heaven! - Mo Gawdat"

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Mo Gawdat sounded the alarm on AI, and now he’s back with an even bigger warning: AI will cause global collapse, destroy jobs, and launch us into a 15-year dystopia that will change everything. Mo Gawdat is back!

Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer at Google X and one of the world’s leading voices on AI, happiness, and the future of humanity. In 2017, he launched ‘One Billion Happy’, a global campaign to teach 1 billion people how to become happier using science and emotional tools. He is also the bestselling author of books such as, ‘Scary Smart, Solve for Happy’.

He explains:

Why we need to start preparing today for AI
How all jobs will be gone by 2037
Why we must replace world leaders with AI
How AI will destroy capitalism
The one belief system that could save humanity from dystopia

I believe that the answer was give to us by a series of events in USA history.

[Alain Pilote] :

We are in 1750. The United States of America does not yet exist; it is the 13 Colonies of the American continent, forming “New England”, a possession of the motherland, England. Benjamin Franklin wrote about the population of that time: “Impossible to find a happier and more prosperous population on all the surface of the globe.” Going over to England to represent the interests of the Colonies, Franklin was asked how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the Colonies, while poverty was rife in the motherland:
“That is simple,” Franklin replied. “In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one.”
The English bankers, being informed of that, had a law passed by the British Parliament prohibiting the Colonies from issuing their own money, and ordering them to use only the gold or silver debt-money that was provided in insufficient quantity by the English bankers. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half.
“In one year,” Franklin stated, “the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed.”
Then the Revolutionary War was launched against England, and was followed by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. History textbooks erroneously teach that it was the tax on tea that triggered the American Revolution. But Franklin clearly stated:
“The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament: which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England, and the Revolutionary War.”
The Founding Fathers of the United States, bearing all these facts in mind, and to protect themselves against the exploitation of the International Bankers, took good care to expressly declare, in the American Constitution, signed at Philadelphia, in 1787, Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5:
“Congress shall have the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof.”​

The bank of the bankers​

Alexander Hamilton​

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But the bankers did not give up. Their agent, Alexander Hamilton, was named Secretary of Treasury in George Washington's cabinet, and advocated the establishment of a federal bank to be owned by private interests, and the creation of debt-money with false arguments like: “A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing... The wisdom of the Government will be shown in never trusting itself with the use of so seducing and dangerous an expedient as issuing its own money.” Hamilton also made them believe that only the debt-money issued by private banks would be accepted in dealing abroad

Chapter 49 — The History of Banking Control in the United States

This fight of the International Financiers to install their fraudulent debt-money system has been particularly vicious in the United States of America since its very foundation, and historical facts show that several American statesmen were well aware of the dishonest money system the Financiers...

famguardian.org

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[Anomalism]

People that aren't paying close attention tend to not actually understand how profoundly the next 10 years will shape humanity forever.

Before AI became a real thing, everybody assumed AI was going to replace physical labor and that intellectual work would be safe for a long time.

The inverse is happening. AI is replacing human intellectual work faster than it's replacing menial labor. This is what's scaring professionals. NOBODY predicted this. In 10 years a chatbot will be better at defending you in court than even the most skilled humans.

Therapists? Same thing. The AI will pattern match your state of mind and find problems that would take humans years of therapy to reach.

Coders? They are already watching their jobs evaporate.

Tech support? Game over, humans.

 

[DennisPTate]

People that aren't paying close attention tend to not actually understand how profoundly the next 10 years will shape humanity forever.

Before AI became a real thing, everybody assumed AI was going to replace physical labor and that intellectual work would be safe for a long time.

The inverse is happening. AI is replacing human intellectual work faster than it's replacing menial labor. This is what's scaring professionals. NOBODY predicted this. In 10 years a chatbot will be better at defending you in court than even the most skilled humans.

Therapists? Same thing. The AI will pattern match your state of mind and find problems that would take humans years of therapy to reach.

Coders? They are already watching their jobs evaporate.

Tech support? Game over, humans.

Yes, and I believe that Dr. Milton Friedman gave us some highly relevant suggestions for this time in which we now live but that article by Mr. Alain Pilote is also an important piece of the puzzle that we now face.

If we do not set in motion 'Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income SupplementS" then I believe that the USA and Canada are doomed to experience a pandemic of homelessness and rather extreme poverty.

[Milton Friedman Ph.D] :

x. The Distribution of IncomeFriedman examines the progressive income tax, introduced in order to redistribute income to make things more fair, and finds that, in fact, the rich take advantage of numerous loopholes, nullifying the redistributive effects. It would be far more fair just to have a uniform flat tax with no deductions, which could meet the 1962 tax revenues with a rate only slightly greater than the lowest tax bracket at that time.

xi. Social Welfare MeasuresThough well-intentioned, many social welfare measures don't help the poor as much as some think. Friedman focuses on Social Security as a particularly large and unfair system.


xii. Alleviation of PovertyFriedman regarded welfare programs as misguided and inefficient. To replace them, he advocates a negative income tax, giving everyone a guaranteed minimum income.

Capitalism and Freedom - Wikipedia

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[Anomalism]

Yes, and I believe that Dr. Milton Friedman gave us some highly relevant suggestions for this time in which we now live but that article by Mr. Alain Pilote is also an important piece of the puzzle that we now face.

If we do not set in motion 'Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income SupplementS" then I believe that the USA and Canada are doomed to experience a pandemic of homelessness and rather extreme poverty.

[Milton Friedman Ph.D] :

The people that run the world want to preside over civilization, not chaos. Those people have every reason to ensure society doesn't collapse.

 

[DennisPTate]

The people that run the world want to preside over civilization, not chaos. Those people have every reason to ensure society doesn't collapse.

Some of them think that way....
but like the rest of us the eight thousand five hundred or so wealthiest of the wealthy are divided...

and an influential sub group, within the larger generally "Neo - Malthusian" total group, are willing to set in motion literal depopulation from many different directions, [in a way I could say from seven major directions based on a promise that was made to the Prophet and Patriarch Moses]?


Allegorically, I feel that the total "Neo-Malthusian" group is divided in seven major directions according to this principle:

"The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways." [Deuteronomy 28:7]

Generally the total "Neo-Malthusianism" group is in the process of fleeing in seven directions......
but these people are so wealthy and so influential that they are still very dangerous......

As Asahel the cousin of King David found out when he caught up to General Abner?!

 

[badbob85037]

I'm still waiting for flying cars.

 

[DennisPTate]

I'm still waiting for flying cars.

They are hidden in underground tunnels in Utah and in several other states.

You probably think that I am joking, but no!

Zone1 Thread 'Is a massive dump of information on the UFO phenomena coming out?'

Nov 7, 2025

I am hopeful that the following lecture that has a bit of a "Congressional Hearing" flavour about it is the beginning of a massive dump of information about the UFO phenomena?

This lecture may be useful to many of us who have friends who will tend to reject information unless it is shown to fit with the Bible.

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. does a great job of giving us all the names of UFO experts who have done their very best to put the truth out there to all of us.



New Revelation on the Coming Alien Disclosure—Don’t Fall for It!

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[Hellokitty]

People that aren't paying close attention tend to not actually understand how profoundly the next 10 years will shape humanity forever.

Before AI became a real thing, everybody assumed AI was going to replace physical labor and that intellectual work would be safe for a long time.

The inverse is happening. AI is replacing human intellectual work faster than it's replacing menial labor. This is what's scaring professionals. NOBODY predicted this. In 10 years a chatbot will be better at defending you in court than even the most skilled humans.

Therapists? Same thing. The AI will pattern match your state of mind and find problems that would take humans years of therapy to reach.

Coders? They are already watching their jobs evaporate.

Tech support? Game over, humans.

So if AI puts everyone out of work who pays for the AI therapist?

 

[Anomalism]

So if AI puts everyone out of work who pays for the AI therapist?

This is the profound societal change I was talking about earlier. We're moving toward a society that resembles something from Star Trek. The way we think about money will be completely antiquated in 20 years.

 

[Hellokitty]

This is the profound societal change I was talking about earlier. We're moving toward a society that resembles something from Star Trek. The way we think about money will be completely antiquated in 20 years.

Wasn't Star Trek people on spaceship? I'm not a fan of sci fi.

 

[Anomalism]

Wasn't Star Trek people on spaceship? I'm not a fan of sci fi.

That was part of it. What I was referring to is the part where they live in a post scarcity society. Money isn't even necessary anymore.

That's the direction I think we're headed in.

 

[DennisPTate]

People that aren't paying close attention tend to not actually understand how profoundly the next 10 years will shape humanity forever.

Before AI became a real thing, everybody assumed AI was going to replace physical labor and that intellectual work would be safe for a long time.

The inverse is happening. AI is replacing human intellectual work faster than it's replacing menial labor. This is what's scaring professionals. NOBODY predicted this. In 10 years a chatbot will be better at defending you in court than even the most skilled humans.

Therapists? Same thing. The AI will pattern match your state of mind and find problems that would take humans years of therapy to reach.

Coders? They are already watching their jobs evaporate.

Tech support? Game over, humans.

Exactly!!!!

These next ten years are off the scale important!

"Can Someone Explain how we can Impliment Socialism and Still Enjoy the Benefits of Capitalism? "

.... "This is an excellent question!

The answer was given by Economist Milton Friedman and is MOST APPLICABLE in a situation where PRODUCTIVITY is about to take a massive boost, [which is EXACTLY our situation here in November of 2025]!

Robotics and Artificial Intelligence are about to cause the productivity of USA and Canadian workers to surge by twenty, thirty, forty or more percentage points. Depending on exactly how robotics and Artificial Intelligence are implemented the productivity of USA and Canadian workers could surge by well over seventy percent, [and the importance of some form of VOLUNTEERISM as an important part of the total economy could surge from somewhere around twenty percent of the economy to over fifty percent of the true value of the economy]!"

...
"My understanding is that Dr. Milton Friedman advocated for Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income Supplements to be distributed equally to all citizens and legal residents, that are separate from the person's last years income, or even their present income, so that this could be done with little or very little bureaucracy!

Like myself, Dr. Milton Friedman felt that bureaucrats tend to want more and more and more control over the lives of ordinary people.

If the author of the lecture "Innovating to zero" gains control over how bureaucracies are implemented then Mr. Mo Gawdat would be correct and we will be headed into a "Dystopian Nightmare."

"Can Someone Explain how we can Impliment Socialism and Still Enjoy the Benefits of Capitalism? "
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YOU have got it! What we are talking about here is ultimately about defining the word "starving" in relation to the future of perhaps eighty percent of Canadian and Americans!

Here is how I believe that this will eventually work out which in my opinion is great news!

[David Wilkerson] " "There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.

Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and
nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it
all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by
people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of
becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.

Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to
all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).

...
"I have reason to take this prediction seriously because my wife and several of her friends have similar spiritual gifts. They receive a level of guidance that I personally cannot comprehend but due to what I have seen in their lives I tend to take this prediction from Pastor David Wilkerson very seriously.

When the average USA or Canadian worker has more disposable income, probably due to a number of "Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income Supplements" in their bank accounts each month, then, many of them will purchase land, and build a second home or cottage outside of the cities and suburbs where their primary home is!

This will produce an economic boom in real estate!"

Post in thread 'Can Someone Explain how we can Impliment Socialism and Still Enjoy the Benefits of Capitalism?'

Nov 24, 2025

I repeat,the “facts” about deliberately starving one's own population were first presented by Dr. Goebbels. I hope you can find more of his works on the internet, which will give you more “facts” in your kampf against world communism.

YOU have got it! What we are talking about here is ultimately about defining the word "starving" in relation to the future of perhaps eighty percent of Canadian and Americans!

Here is how I believe that this will eventually work out which in my opinion is great news!

"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country...

• DennisPTate

 

[Nobody911]

Why did Gödel break up with his girlfriend? Because he realized that no matter how much he tried to prove his love, there would always be things he couldn’t fully explain! You know, just like in any system—there are always gonna be some truths that can’t be proven! So, he figured it was better to find someone who didn’t require a formal proof of affection. Talk about an incomplete relationship!

Gödel's Incompleteness: The Fundamental Limits of AI Perfection

Direct Interpretation
Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems fundamentally suggest that absolutely perfect, all-encompassing AI models are mathematically impossible. This doesn't mean AI can't be incredibly advanced, but it implies inherent limitations to any computational system.

Key Implications

Fundamental Constraints
No computational system can be:
- Completely consistent
- Totally comprehensive
- Absolutely self-verifying

Mathematical Essence
- Every logical system will have:
- Statements that are true but unprovable within its own framework
- Inherent blind spots
- Fundamental uncertainty

Practical Significance for AI

Limitation Landscape

• Super-perfect AI is a mathematical impossibility
• AI systems will always have:

- Computational boundaries
- Incomplete knowledge domains
- Potential for unresolvable paradoxes

Philosophical Depth

Intelligence Redefined
Gödel's theorems suggest that true intelligence is not about:

• Perfect knowledge
• Complete logical closure
• Absolute computational certainty

Instead, intelligence involves:

• Recognizing limitations
• Adapting to uncertainty
• Generating novel approaches
• Transcending existing logical frameworks

Nuanced Perspectives

Not a Defeat, But a Discovery
The theorem isn't a limitation, but a profound insight:

• Incompleteness is a feature, not a bug of intelligent systems
• Allows for:

- Creative problem-solving
- Adaptive reasoning
- Continuous learning

Computational Implications
- AI will always have:
- Unknown unknowns
- Potential for unexpected insights
- Inherent complexity that cannot be fully mapped

Practical Consequences

AI Development Strategies
Given these limitations, advanced AI development might focus on:
1. Adaptive reasoning systems
2. Probabilistic knowledge frameworks
3. Meta-level learning capabilities
4. Embracing uncertainty as a fundamental feature

Philosophical Invitation
Gödel's theorems don't diminish AI's potential but challenge us to:

• Reimagine intelligence
• Appreciate computational complexity
• Understand knowledge as an evolving, dynamic process

 

[DennisPTate]

Why did Gödel break up with his girlfriend? Because he realized that no matter how much he tried to prove his love, there would always be things he couldn’t fully explain! You know, just like in any system—there are always gonna be some truths that can’t be proven! So, he figured it was better to find someone who didn’t require a formal proof of affection. Talk about an incomplete relationship!

Gödel's Incompleteness: The Fundamental Limits of AI Perfection

Direct Interpretation
Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems fundamentally suggest that absolutely perfect, all-encompassing AI models are mathematically impossible. This doesn't mean AI can't be incredibly advanced, but it implies inherent limitations to any computational system.

Key Implications

Fundamental Constraints
No computational system can be:
- Completely consistent
- Totally comprehensive
- Absolutely self-verifying

Mathematical Essence
- Every logical system will have:
- Statements that are true but unprovable within its own framework
- Inherent blind spots
- Fundamental uncertainty

Practical Significance for AI

Limitation Landscape

• Super-perfect AI is a mathematical impossibility
• AI systems will always have:

- Computational boundaries
- Incomplete knowledge domains
- Potential for unresolvable paradoxes

Philosophical Depth

Intelligence Redefined
Gödel's theorems suggest that true intelligence is not about:

• Perfect knowledge
• Complete logical closure
• Absolute computational certainty

Instead, intelligence involves:

• Recognizing limitations
• Adapting to uncertainty
• Generating novel approaches
• Transcending existing logical frameworks

Nuanced Perspectives

Not a Defeat, But a Discovery
The theorem isn't a limitation, but a profound insight:

• Incompleteness is a feature, not a bug of intelligent systems
• Allows for:

- Creative problem-solving
- Adaptive reasoning
- Continuous learning

Computational Implications
- AI will always have:
- Unknown unknowns
- Potential for unexpected insights
- Inherent complexity that cannot be fully mapped

Practical Consequences

AI Development Strategies
Given these limitations, advanced AI development might focus on:
1. Adaptive reasoning systems
2. Probabilistic knowledge frameworks
3. Meta-level learning capabilities
4. Embracing uncertainty as a fundamental feature

Philosophical Invitation
Gödel's theorems don't diminish AI's potential but challenge us to:

• Reimagine intelligence
• Appreciate computational complexity
• Understand knowledge as an evolving, dynamic process

This is an excellent message on this topic but that is not exactly the situation that I believe Canadian and American workers are facing. We are dealing with C. E. O's that are so intelligent that they will figure out how to train one or two humans to intervene and make a judgment call that will slightly modify the types of errors that Artificial Intelligence will tend to make.

C. E. O's of a publicly traded company that have more than a certain number of workers earn on average eleven point seven million dollars in salary plus benefits. A. I. and robotics, [backed up by several well trained humans], can begin to replace the highest paid managers in this modern economy.

The eight thousand five hundred wealthiest people on this planet are far too intelligent to think that they need to develop Artificial Intelligence and robotics to be so good that they do not supply them with well trained humans who can deal with the inevitable glitches that will occur.

I would suggest doing a search for the lecture "Innovating to zero" by Bill Gates and really listen to this lecture and ask yourself, [would Bill Gates fire me if he could replace me with a combination of Artificial Intellince, robotics and well trained humans? OBVIOUSLY THE ANSWER IS YES!]

 

[Mushroom]

Any time I hear that AI is the wave of the future, the only thing that comes to my mind is BM.

But BM in the medical sense.

 

[Foxfyre]

I'm still waiting for flying cars.

Flying cars are here. Our daughter posted her own video of one flying over the Monterey CA area just this week.

This isn't her video but gives you a good idea of what technology currently exists. I read that Elon Musk is very interested in that and may make it a priority.

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Our world changed dramatically in technology in the last 50 years. It will change even more rapidly in the next 50 years. Those of us struggling with many of those changes will have to deal with it.

I don't know if AI will end civilization as we know it or if the doomsdayers or eternal optimists will win the day. But that technology is here and we will either live with it constructively or it will be awful. I don't know how much influence any of us an have in how it will go.

 

[DennisPTate]

Any time I hear that AI is the wave of the future, the only thing that comes to my mind is BM.

But BM in the medical sense.

I had to do a search for that one.

In a medical context, the abbreviation BM primarily stands for bowel movement, but can also refer to other terms depending on the context.

That is a logical reaction I must admit. Do you mean that in the sense of being "Scared ....less?"

I do think that a lot of people are in that boat!

 

[DennisPTate]

So if AI puts everyone out of work who pays for the AI therapist?

That is where the Mo Gawdat suggestion of B. M. I. truly gains serious traction!

 

[Mushroom]

That is a logical reaction I must admit. Do you mean that in the sense of being "Scared ....less?"

I will repeat to you what I tell everybody else that tries that stupid game. And I mean exactly as I said.

Bowel Movement, as in it's a pile of crap.

Trying to twist what I say into something else to follow your beliefs is almost always a failure. As far as I can see, AI is just another "Buzzword Bubble", just like "Internet" and "Computers" before that. Mostly propagated by people that do not really understand it, but are pushing it for reasons based on either a fantasy, or to make money.

And just like the "Dot Com" bubble and all the ones before it, eventually this one is going to pop and leave behind a bunch of people with nothing to show for it.

I have been involved in IT for over five decades now. And the best way for me to explain this in the way I view it is as the following:

I am old enough to remember those and earlier "Tech Bubbles". One of the first and most obvious was the "Computer Bubble" of the early 1980s. When you had everybody from Tandy and Timex to freaking Mattel and the Connecticut Leather Company and the BBC rushing to make computers. In the early 1980s, it seemed like everybody was trying to make and sell computers, some of which had no business even attempting it. And in the end, they all failed.

Probably the only one that did chug on for another decade was Packard-Bell. Who prior to jumping into computers was primarily known for making televisions and radios. But they only lasted a decade longer than the others before they imploded.

Or look at the wreckage of the "Dot Com Bubble".



Or another bubble we are still in, the "Crypto Bubble".

To me, this is just another bubble based on ignorance and speculation. 99% of people are not even aware that AI is just another search engine. It is no more intelligent than Jeeves was two decades ago. And I look at most of what is returned or produced by AI, and shake my head because 99% of it is crap.

 

[there4eyeM]

This is the profound societal change I was talking about earlier. We're moving toward a society that resembles something from Star Trek. The way we think about money will be completely antiquated in 20 years.

It already is.