Minimum wage hike bankrupts company.

[Crepitus]

That may be one of the silliest things I've ever heard here.

Did you even think about that before you posted it?

You must be a city boy..


Ever plant a garden?

Hunt?

Fish?

Why would they starve when companies would have to raise wages with no government welfare programs?

Hell back in the old days companies would build town's to get workers.
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So.... You think it's still the 1800s?

My father is a cattle rancher BTW.

No what I am saying is companies would have no choice but to raise wages if we eliminated most welfare.

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You have far too much faith in corporate America.

you dont have enough faith in the people,,,

If we reach the point where the average guy has to farm to feed his family we are done as a nation.

 

[anotherlife]

You must be a city boy..


Ever plant a garden?

Hunt?

Fish?

Why would they starve when companies would have to raise wages with no government welfare programs?

Hell back in the old days companies would build town's to get workers.
.

So.... You think it's still the 1800s?

My father is a cattle rancher BTW.

No what I am saying is companies would have no choice but to raise wages if we eliminated most welfare.

.

You have far too much faith in corporate America.

you dont have enough faith in the people,,,

If we reach the point where the average guy has to farm to feed his family we are done as a nation.

Why? Farming to bridge weeks when they forget to pay your wages is standard practice in Africa.

 

[Crepitus]

So.... You think it's still the 1800s?

My father is a cattle rancher BTW.

No what I am saying is companies would have no choice but to raise wages if we eliminated most welfare.

.

You have far too much faith in corporate America.

you dont have enough faith in the people,,,

If we reach the point where the average guy has to farm to feed his family we are done as a nation.

Why? Farming to bridge weeks when they forget to pay your wages is standard practice in Africa.

And you put America on par with struggling African countries?

 

[anotherlife]

That's changing the goal post.. how does it help if 45% plus of American workers make minimum wage, if this bill passes the Senate and Trump signs it?

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It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

Then how do you pay the extra policemen who stop them from mugging you for a sandwich?

 

[progressive hunter]

You must be a city boy..


Ever plant a garden?

Hunt?

Fish?

Why would they starve when companies would have to raise wages with no government welfare programs?



Hell back in the old days companies would build town's to get workers.
.

So.... You think it's still the 1800s?

My father is a cattle rancher BTW.

No what I am saying is companies would have no choice but to raise wages if we eliminated most welfare.

.

You have far too much faith in corporate America.

you dont have enough faith in the people,,,

If we reach the point where the average guy has to farm to feed his family we are done as a nation.

we arent talking about the average guy,,,we are talking about less than 5% of the pop,,,

At some point they need to do something other than wait for a handout

 

[anotherlife]

No what I am saying is companies would have no choice but to raise wages if we eliminated most welfare.

.

You have far too much faith in corporate America.

you dont have enough faith in the people,,,

If we reach the point where the average guy has to farm to feed his family we are done as a nation.

Why? Farming to bridge weeks when they forget to pay your wages is standard practice in Africa.

And you put America on par with struggling African countries?

Give it time. Hehe. How old are you? I am thinking about my generations. You know the minimum wage will have to go up to cover my student loan payments, no?

 

[anotherlife]

So.... You think it's still the 1800s?

My father is a cattle rancher BTW.

No what I am saying is companies would have no choice but to raise wages if we eliminated most welfare.

.

You have far too much faith in corporate America.

you dont have enough faith in the people,,,

If we reach the point where the average guy has to farm to feed his family we are done as a nation.

we arent talking about the average guy,,,we are talking about less than 5% of the pop,,,

At some point they need to do something other than wait for a handout

Then I have a solution. Pay policemen to effectively police the eradication of violence in the homeless population. Then you don't have to auction off your lesser productive employees when you can't afford to pay them.

 

[hadit]

That's changing the goal post.. how does it help if 45% plus of American workers make minimum wage, if this bill passes the Senate and Trump signs it?

.

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

Why not? The alternative is to let them starve, right? If society wants to support them, society needs to agree to massive tax hikes and massive welfare programs. It's not the job of business to support anyone. It's the job of business to pay for work that generates more revenue than it costs.

 

[Slyhunter]

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

Why not? The alternative is to let them starve, right? If society wants to support them, society needs to agree to massive tax hikes and massive welfare programs. It's not the job of business to support anyone. It's the job of business to pay for work that generates more revenue than it costs.

We can't afford to support the poor with open borders. There has to be a limit of how many poor that gets helped or they'd bankrupt our government.

 

[Blues Man]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/restauran...for-bankruptcy

Well, imagine that .

That's what will happen when sources demand that unskilled/uneducated employees get these kind of wages. These current politicians (4 freshman congresswomen) are demanding minimum wages be raised across the board & free health care along with other freebies for all.

If they needed the government to subsidize their employees then their business model sucked.

Wrong it the other way around, those companies subsidies the US welfare program...with out them billions more would have to be paid out.

No. The US government is subsidizing the companies employees so the companies can pay less and make higher profits.

No the people who stay in MW jobs for 20 years or more and refuse to better themselves so as to earn more are scamming the system

You have it backwards
People do not remain in minimum wage jobs for 20 years
But companies will exploit low skilled workers for decades

Less than 3% of all workers in this country make the federal MW

It's a non issue

That's changing the goal post.. how does it help if 45% plus of American workers make minimum wage, if this bill passes the Senate and Trump signs it?

.

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

Then we need to make getting welfare harder than it is now

 

[Blues Man]

That's changing the goal post.. how does it help if 45% plus of American workers make minimum wage, if this bill passes the Senate and Trump signs it?

.

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

We don't have to it's obviously too easy for able bodied people to get welfare

 

[Blues Man]

No the people who stay in MW jobs for 20 years or more and refuse to better themselves so as to earn more are scamming the system

You have it backwards
People do not remain in minimum wage jobs for 20 years
But companies will exploit low skilled workers for decades

That's changing the goal post.. how does it help if 45% plus of American workers make minimum wage, if this bill passes the Senate and Trump signs it?

.

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

No the alternative is they work to make enough to support themselves

There wasn't one single time in my life up until the age of 40 where I didn't have at least 2 jobs.

If your skills do not allow you to support yourself on one job then it's up to you to work enough to support yourself.

When did the idea that one 40 hour a week will pay enough to cover all of anyone's expenses come to be held as gospel?

 

[Blues Man]

We can consider the minimum wage that part of your business tax that is spent on prison prevention for petty economic street crime.

So then everyone should pay more taxes

Even you

 

[rightwinger]

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

Why not? The alternative is to let them starve, right? If society wants to support them, society needs to agree to massive tax hikes and massive welfare programs. It's not the job of business to support anyone. It's the job of business to pay for work that generates more revenue than it costs.

I’m cool with that

If Republicans solution is to have taxpayers make up the difference for low wages......then let’s repeal that 40 percent tax break and use the $1.5 trillion to support low wage workers

 

[rightwinger]

You have it backwards
People do not remain in minimum wage jobs for 20 years
But companies will exploit low skilled workers for decades

That's changing the goal post.. how does it help if 45% plus of American workers make minimum wage, if this bill passes the Senate and Trump signs it?

.

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

No the alternative is they work to make enough to support themselves

There wasn't one single time in my life up until the age of 40 where I didn't have at least 2 jobs.

If your skills do not allow you to support yourself on one job then it's up to you to work enough to support yourself.

When did the idea that one 40 hour a week will pay enough to cover all of anyone's expenses come to be held as gospel?

Good solution

With 30 million low skilled workers, you must have 30 million unfilled jobs for them to take

 

[hadit]

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

Why not? The alternative is to let them starve, right? If society wants to support them, society needs to agree to massive tax hikes and massive welfare programs. It's not the job of business to support anyone. It's the job of business to pay for work that generates more revenue than it costs.

I’m cool with that

If Republicans solution is to have taxpayers make up the difference for low wages......then let’s repeal that 40 percent tax break and use the $1.5 trillion to support low wage workers

We already offer more benefits to someone who doesn't work at all than what they can earn at a low paying job.

 

[anotherlife]

We can consider the minimum wage that part of your business tax that is spent on prison prevention for petty economic street crime.

So then everyone should pay more taxes

Even you

No because that would be socialist. Are you trying to offload your business budget deficits onto the taxpayer? Hehehe!

 

[Blues Man]

That's changing the goal post.. how does it help if 45% plus of American workers make minimum wage, if this bill passes the Senate and Trump signs it?

.

It helps by FINALLY increasing the wages of low skilled workers who have been struggling for decades
It helps by shifting the responsibility of supporting these families from the taxpayer to their employers

Why is it anyone's responsibility other than the family to support the family? If a job doesn't generate more revenue than it costs, it cannot be sustained.

Because the alternative is letting them starve

No the alternative is they work to make enough to support themselves

There wasn't one single time in my life up until the age of 40 where I didn't have at least 2 jobs.

If your skills do not allow you to support yourself on one job then it's up to you to work enough to support yourself.

When did the idea that one 40 hour a week will pay enough to cover all of anyone's expenses come to be held as gospel?

Good solution

With 30 million low skilled workers, you must have 30 million unfilled jobs for them to take

You don't have to work for someone else to make money

And anyone who really wants to can find a second job.

I never had any trouble finding a side gig

 

[Wyatt earp]

Because the alternative is letting them starve

If society deems it necessary to guarantee a minimum standard of living, it should be up to society to provide it through taxation and welfare programs. Companies should not be made into welfare distribution centers.

We should not have to support their workforce

Why not? The alternative is to let them starve, right? If society wants to support them, society needs to agree to massive tax hikes and massive welfare programs. It's not the job of business to support anyone. It's the job of business to pay for work that generates more revenue than it costs.

I’m cool with that

If Republicans solution is to have taxpayers make up the difference for low wages......then let’s repeal that 40 percent tax break and use the $1.5 trillion to support low wage workers

We already offer more benefits to someone who doesn't work at all than what they can earn at a low paying job.

And that's the problem

 

[Blues Man]

We can consider the minimum wage that part of your business tax that is spent on prison prevention for petty economic street crime.

So then everyone should pay more taxes

Even you

No because that would be socialist. Are you trying to offload your business budget deficits onto the taxpayer? Hehehe!

If a business runs in a deficit it doesn't last very long.

But hey all those people that lose their jobs because of a ridiculously high MW will be supported by your taxes so you might as well pay more for that