Millions Evacuated After Catastrophic Flooding Hits China, Pakistan

[LaDexter]

Both laboratory experiments and experiments in the natural world

Wrong. The Sun shines the spectrum, not just IR. The highly correlated satellite and balloon data, the raw unfudged data, continues to show precisely NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising CO2...

 

[skookerasbil]

Thunder dude....that big-ass pink font isn't big enough!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Frank.........dang.....you're making their heads explode in here!!! What did you say?

 

[Crick]

Your data still indicates a precipitous and, in your span unprecedented, loss of ice extents. Out of curiosity, how was Arctic ice extent determined prior to satellites and where, precisely, do these data shift from proxy to instrumented records?

 

[LaDexter]

Out of curiosity, how was Arctic ice extent determined prior to satellites?

Ever hear of Willie Wonka??

 

[Crick]

Your data still indicates a precipitous and, in your span unprecedented, loss of ice extents. Out of curiosity, how was Arctic ice extent determined prior to satellites and where, precisely, do these data shift from proxy to instrumented records?

The Abstract from Trouet 2009 (Persistent positive North Atlantic oscillation mode dominated the Medieval Climate Anomaly) the source of that all the data noted with a solid line.

Abstract
The Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA) was the most recent pre-industrial era warm interval of European climate, yet its driving mechanisms remain uncertain. We present here a 947-year-long multidecadal North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) reconstruction and find a persistent positive NAO during the MCA. Supplementary reconstructions based on climate model results and proxy data indicate a clear shift to weaker NAO conditions into the Little Ice Age (LIA). Globally distributed proxy data suggest that this NAO shift is one aspect of a global MCA-LIA climate transition that

The full text of the article is free with registration. See it at Persistent Positive North Atlantic Oscillation Mode Dominated the Medieval Climate Anomaly | Science

 

[jc456]

Your data still indicates a precipitous and, in your span unprecedented, loss of ice extents. Out of curiosity, how was Arctic ice extent determined prior to satellites and where, precisely, do these data shift from proxy to instrumented records?

The Abstract from Trouet 2009 (Persistent positive North Atlantic oscillation mode dominated the Medieval Climate Anomaly) the source of that all the data noted with a solid line.

Abstract
The Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA) was the most recent pre-industrial era warm interval of European climate, yet its driving mechanisms remain uncertain. We present here a 947-year-long multidecadal North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) reconstruction and find a persistent positive NAO during the MCA. Supplementary reconstructions based on climate model results and proxy data indicate a clear shift to weaker NAO conditions into the Little Ice Age (LIA). Globally distributed proxy data suggest that this NAO shift is one aspect of a global MCA-LIA climate transition that

The full text of the article is free with registration. See it at Persistent Positive North Atlantic Oscillation Mode Dominated the Medieval Climate Anomaly | Science

So what?

 

[flacaltenn]

Your data still indicates a precipitous and, in your span unprecedented, loss of ice extents. Out of curiosity, how was Arctic ice extent determined prior to satellites and where, precisely, do these data shift from proxy to instrumented records?

Well that's your problem Bullwinkle. You Can't Read a Graph !!!! Thought you knew where that graph came from. And even if you didn't -- Dotted Lines on ALL the ice extents are MODERN instrumentation. .It's another FrankenStein hockey stick. A couple don';t meet up well at all. And NONE of modern short term variances would be seen with the proxies used.


You really should not be ARGUING with what I say if you're asking questions like that. OR making pronouncements based on your sketchy understanding of what a proxy study is..

 

[Crick]

I can read a graph just fine. The legend on yours states that the solid lines are from Trouet 2008 and the dotted lines are from Cook 2002. And if you think the dotted lines are all instrument-sourced (and if so, you should have posted that because it certainly doesn't appear in your graphic or your text), you need to explain the salinity records from 600 AD.

And, again, these data still show a precipitous and unprecedented decline in Arctic sea ice extents.

I argue with you when you're wrong.