Micro stamping, just another anti-gun tactic

[JoeB131]

So now this group has another hero, The NRA hero list is puke. Are they handing out trophy's for kills yet/

Oh, we have a bunch of NRA apologists who do this, but he's the worst, he usually spams these threads with pages of how we don't really have that many mass shootings once you up the body count to five white people.

 

[Captain Caveman]

This is just more stupidity to harass law-abiding gun owners and manufacturers.

Law abiding gun owners in the UK are not harassed. It's having a system that tries to make sure that the law abiding citizen can enjoy owning and using guns, whilst reducing the idiots that spoil it for everyone.

I would say most oppose a UK system because they know they would fail and be deemed unsuitable. That's the crux of the gun debate.

When we were kids, if you dropped a piece of litter, ya dad picked you up onto tiptoes by grasping the hair on the back of your head. Even today, I cannot drop a bit of litter, I must bin it. If it blows away in the wind, it annoys me. It's having that feeling towards guns; not taking them into public, not locking them away etc.. It's having that culture, that orientation. If you're brought up to feel macho, to feel you will shoot others in the high street etc.. that's the unsuitable gun owner.

 

[JGalt]

Law abiding gun owners in the UK are not harassed. It's having a system that tries to make sure that the law abiding citizen can enjoy owning and using guns, whilst reducing the idiots that spoil it for everyone.

I would say most oppose a UK system because they know they would fail and be deemed unsuitable. That's the crux of the gun debate.

When we were kids, if you dropped a piece of litter, ya dad picked you up onto tiptoes by grasping the hair on the back of your head. Even today, I cannot drop a bit of litter, I must bin it. If it blows away in the wind, it annoys me. It's having that feeling towards guns; not taking them into public, not locking them away etc.. It's having that culture, that orientation. If you're brought up to feel macho, to feel you will shoot others in the high street etc.. that's the unsuitable gun owner.

The UK's gun laws are very restrictive compared to ours. There are many types of firearms most citizens are not allowed to own.

Firearms regulation in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

 

[JoeB131]

The UK's gun laws are very restrictive compared to ours. There are many types of firearms most citizens are not allowed to own.

Firearms regulation in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

Wow... that's actually SENSIBLE.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The UK's gun laws are very restrictive compared to ours. There are many types of firearms most citizens are not allowed to own.

Firearms regulation in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

They're only restrictive to those that made themselves unsuitable.

This video explains which guns are allowable -



You can own an Uzi but just in rimfire.

 

[Captain Caveman]

JGalt if you lived in the US and were a felon, could you own a gun or be classed as unsuitable!!

It's the same in the UK!! So what you do is, don't be a felon and all's good.

 

[JGalt]

They're only restrictive to those that made themselves unsuitable.

This video explains which guns are allowable -



You can own an Uzi but just in rimfire.

And I can legally own an Uzi, but in 9mm Parabellum. Or a full auto AK-47, M4 carbine, or a 50 caliber M2 Browning if I have the money and am willing to undergo a background check, jump through the hoops, and pay the $200 tax stamp.

Now who has more freedom? Brits or Americans?

 

[JGalt]

JGalt if you lived in the US and were a felon, could you own a gun or be classed as unsuitable!!

It's the same in the UK!! So what you do is, don't be a felon and all's good.

Felons still obtain firearms and commit crimes with them, both in the UK and US.

I'm just saying.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Now who has more freedom? Brits or Americans?

Can you drink beer in the street? Can you cross a road where you want to? Can you buy a kinder egg with a dangerous toy inside?

Both the UK and US are equally 17th on the Freedom Index, along with Lithuania.

Like I've said before, it's only Americans that just believe Freedom only equates to having a gun. If I put my American hat on, only 32% of Americans own a gun, so 68% have no Freedom !!

 

[Captain Caveman]

Felons still obtain firearms and commit crimes with them, both in the UK and US.

I'm just saying.

Laws don't stop, they reduce. Always have done, always will do. Many laws come about so when you get caught, more charges are thrown at you and thus the more time you spend in jail.

Those with little to nothing tend to break the law.

Some with suspended driving licences still drive.

 

[Rawley]

Cars aren't designed to kill people.

I'd have no problem with a gun buyer being required to sign a medical records waiver for a background check.

It seems like common sense.

The question is, do you deny a gun to someone if they were treated for depression 40 years ago?

No, of course not.

If they are hearing voice now, like Joker Holmes was, then absolutely.

If they had called Holmes's school, they'd have found out he was being expelled due to his erratic behavior.

Same with the VA Tech shooter. His school knew he was a problem. The Gun store didn't care to find out.

LOL SO everyone's medical records, every visit to the doctor becomes a public record. Great solution.

 

[Captain Caveman]

And I can legally own an Uzi, but in 9mm Parabellum. Or a full auto AK-47, M4 carbine, or a 50 caliber M2 Browning if I have the money and am ?

I can legally own and buy and own the British-made Accuracy International sniper rifle. It holds the record for the longest confirmed sniper kill in history, just as long i want to spend £23,000.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

The UK banned handguns in 1997, but citizens are still able to own and shoot some shotguns and rifles with a license.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Captain Caveman]

LOL SO everyone's medical records, every visit to the doctor becomes a public record. Great solution.

No.

 

[Rawley]

No.

Agree. Ridiculous "solution."

 

[M14 Shooter]

Now who has more freedom? Brits or Americans?

In all Western countries, the people have the right to dissent.
Unique to these countries, Americans have the ability to make it stick.
That... is freedom.

 

[jbander]

Oh, we have a bunch of NRA apologists who do this, but he's the worst, he usually spams these threads with pages of how we don't really have that many mass shootings once you up the body count to five white people.

By far the biggest threat to the 2nd is Gun Bubbas, owning 2 dozen Ar's and other guns with only owning one trigger finger. Less households have guns in them every year now. But the number of gun sales are going through the ceiling. Its' these Gun bubbas preparing to shoot their democratic neighbor. because we think they are Hate Nazi's. (we know). There stupidity will make reasonable people get rid of the 2nd or adjust it just to protect our country from these wanks.

 

[justoffal]

Cars aren't designed to kill people.

I'd have no problem with a gun buyer being required to sign a medical records waiver for a background check.

It seems like common sense.

The question is, do you deny a gun to someone if they were treated for depression 40 years ago?

No, of course not.

If they are hearing voice now, like Joker Holmes was, then absolutely.

If they had called Holmes's school, they'd have found out he was being expelled due to his erratic behavior.

Same with the VA Tech shooter. His school knew he was a problem. The Gun store didn't care to find out.

There are too many unknowns in the approach that you want to take. It is far too subjective and given to personal opinion as to who is a problem and who is not or why they might be one.

That kind of law will always creep forward into other areas where it doesn't belong and was never intended for.

 

[JGalt]

I can legally own and buy and own the British-made Accuracy International sniper rifle. It holds the record for the longest confirmed sniper kill in history, just as long i want to spend £23,000.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

The UK banned handguns in 1997, but citizens are still able to own and shoot some shotguns and rifles with a license.

www.businessinsider.com

A "sniper rifle" is just another name for a high-priced bolt-action hunting rifle with an expensive scope on it. Most of those shoot the same caliber round we use out west for elk.

I could do just as well with my old Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk1 Lend-Lease British .303 that we manufactured for you folks back during WW2.

Of course, it only has a vintage steel-tube Weaver fixed-power 4X scope on it. Give me something with a higher power and a Mil-Dot reticle and I could probably hit a man-sized target at 1,000 metres.

 

[JoeB131]

There are too many unknowns in the approach that you want to take. It is far too subjective and given to personal opinion as to who is a problem and who is not or why they might be one.

That kind of law will always creep forward into other areas where it doesn't belong and was never intended for.

And?

Sorry, man, I just don't see the problem if someone has to wait a couple weeks to get a gun.

 

[justoffal]

And?

Sorry, man, I just don't see the problem if someone has to wait a couple weeks to get a gun.

Well..... I can't argue that.... In my opinion people should be required to take 6 weeks of classes and instruction..... If you have to get a learner's permit before you get a license.... I don't see why there shouldn't be a similar process.