Michigan School Shooting, 3 dead.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually it is right, it in in the Michigan law. If you allow your gun to be used to commit a crime you can be held responsible.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You can allow something to happen through your negligence.

They were told their son was drawing pictures of people being shot and looking up ammo on his phone and they never thought to look and see if the gun they bought on Black Friday was in the house or not?

The father went home after the school meeting and discovered the gun was gone. He immediately notified the police, but that was too late to stop the shootings.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Here it is for like the 5th time.

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/msp-203_-_PDF_286476_7.pdf

You may be criminally and civilly liable for any harm caused by a person less than 18 years of age who lawfully gains unsupervised access to your firearm if unlawfully stored.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not my job.

You made the claim, so you need to back it up!

That is your fantasy, and not Michigan law.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The father went home after the school meeting and discovered the gun was gone. He immediately notified the police, but that was too late to stop the shootings.

The timeline I heard is the father did not go home and look until after the shooting had started, then he called the police....almost as if he was trying to cover his own ass.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You made the claim, so you need to back it up!

That is your fantasy, and not Michigan law.

I quoted the State of Michigan, that is all. I did not claim anything, just quoted the state.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Why should the military pay for something the education monopoly is responsible for?

You were trying to trim the fat. There’s plenty of fat in our military spending. We spend far more on that than we do on education.

Once again, it’s abundantly clear that IF we were to spend money on additional security, then you would not approve of where that money is pulled from. Unfortunately for you, you don’t get to decide these things. Are you still for it? You probably won’t answer.

Just as you continue to pathetically avoid discussion of the parents. Because you’re a coward.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Here it is for like the 5th time.

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/msp-203_-_PDF_286476_7.pdf

You may be criminally and civilly liable for any harm caused by a person less than 18 years of age who lawfully gains unsupervised access to your firearm if unlawfully stored.

Gator, you really need to fix that inability to read! There is nothing in that linked Michigan law that says what you think it says!

From your link:

(8) This section does not create a civil action or liability for damages arising from the use or misuse of a firearm or ammunition for a person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who produces a firearm or ammunition.

That's a close as it gets to your claim!

Getting in the Marines with a GED was quite an accomplishment, but you simply cannot read.

 

[Stann]

The timeline I heard is the father did not go home and look until after the shooting had started, then he called the police....almost as if he was trying to cover his own ass.

Their demeanor about the whole situation would lead to that logical conclusion. You are most likely correct in your that assumption. The dilemma is proving that in court. I hope it all comes together so they can. These parents were totally irresponsible.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The timeline I heard is the father did not go home and look until after the shooting had started, then he called the police....almost as if he was trying to cover his own ass.

My God, you stupid piece of shit! That's almost word-for word exactly what I said! Who gives a shit when he went to look?

Do you have a keeper? If not, you apparently need one.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I quoted the State of Michigan, that is all. I did not claim anything, just quoted the state.

You quoted something does does not say anything about liability from improper storage of a weapon. Readings is fundamental. I suggest you learn!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The school did the right thing by calling the parents in to make them aware. The parents did not take responsibility to remove the kid from school. Is the school culpable because the parents would not take the child home? Parents are responsible for their children. If the school is liable to remove the kid from school and the parents won't take him what then?

Why would the parents remove him from the school if they had a meeting with the school and the school did not suspend him for any of those alleged violations? I believe no one is responsible except the kid.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

My God, you stupid piece of shit! That's almost word-for word exactly what I said! Who gives a shit when he went to look?

Do you have a keeper? If not, you apparently need one.

When he went to look is vital to their defense. The fact he did not bother to look until his son was already killing people does not help him, that was a cover your ass move nothing more. Then he claimed it was stolen even though his wife had posted on social media that the gun was a present for the son...cannot steal what is yours

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The school wanted him out but the parents wouldn't take him. The parents are responsible, period.

Another unfounded claim?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

When he went to look is vital to their defense. The fact he did not bother to look until his son was already killing people does not help him, that was a cover your ass move nothing more. Then he claimed it was stolen even though his wife had posted on social media that the gun was a present for the son...cannot steal what is yours

Get someone else to read it to see if it says what you think it says!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Mom and dad are probably dead by suicide.

Just Wow!

Where did you come up with that one?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No lectures on irresponsible parents?

No sermon on white on white crime.

Just buy metal detectors.

The high school where I taught and was an assistant principal had 64 doors for 3400 students. Please explain how metal detectors would work to prevent a weapon from being brought into the school?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Another unfounded claim?

Parents of Oxford High School shooting suspect charged

The signs were there, but Ethan Crumbley’s parents did nothing, the Oakland County prosecutor said.

detroit.chalkbeat.org

• Several hours before the shooting: A teacher noticed and photographed an alarming note on the teenager’s desk that included a drawing of a semi-automatic handgun, a bullet, a bleeding figure with two gunshot wounds, and several quotes including “The world is dead.” A school counselor escorted him to the school office with the drawing, which had since been altered to scratch out the violent scene and some of the words including, “My life is useless.” The school summoned the Crumbleys.
• Three hours before the shooting: The parents arrived for a meeting where they declined to take their son home with them and failed to ask him where the gun was.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You realize the school did want to send him home--they told the parents to take him home and the parents refused. The school only failed at that last step, which would have involved the police forcibly removing the student from the school.

Many of the posters on this thread seem to be making shit up as they go!

 

[sartre play]

Yup. Went quietly when police confronted him, even though he still had 7 bullets in his gun. And immediately asked for a lawyer, wouldn't speak. He had this all planned. Why he wants to spend his life in prison, I don't know, but he does.

No think he maybe wants to be a hero like Kyle.