Michele Bachmann: Welfare Queen

[Sarah G]

Who said anything about Democrats or Republicans?

We are talking about the hypocricy of accepting farm subsidies while complaining about the Government handouts others are getting.

In NJ you get to claim your land is a farm if you sell $500 worth of goods in a year. You get a property tax relief of tens of thousands of dollars and only need to sell $500 worth of goods (produce, firewood,christmas trees) to get it

So she is the only politician guilty of hypocrisy? I'm just not getting it here. If you want to blame someone, blame the people who passed the laws and started the programs in the first place, not those taking advantage of lawful programs.
No, the OP is there simply as a hatchet job against a rep that Nancy Pelosi has targeted for defeat.

Yes, let's dig up FDR and hang him for passing these farm subsidies, while we are at it, we can hang all of the farmers all across the USA for taking those subsidies.

Of course, the grocery stores might be empty, and prices will go skyrocketing because there is less of it. Millions will probably starve, but that's okay too, because we will have a health care plan.

Just so you understand, Michelle Bachman is the one who opposes the government handouts. That includes farm subsidies. Yet she collects on said handouts herself!

So quit with the diversionary tactics, you're not good at it.

 

[chanel]

Anyone who doesn't use the LEGAL tax code to their advantage is a moron or has a very shitty accountant. Don't worry folks. Her family makes over 250K. They already pay far more than the rest of us. What's fair - 70 percent.

Hey _ let"s compare the charitable giving for the Bachmans vs. The Bidens. That should be fun.

And just for the record - I think Biden is a cheap prick and a hypocrite but not necessarily 'evil" or a welfare queen.

 

[Sarah G]

What do right wing conservatives have against the free market? They seem to think that giving handouts to wealthy landowners is not the same socialist principle which they rail against the liberals.

This is what is happening in this thread. They see a difference in what she is doing and what people she opposes are doing.

 

[Oddball]

What do right wing conservatives have against the free market? They seem to think that giving handouts to wealthy landowners is not the same socialist principle which they rail against the liberals.

Why don't Fabian socialist "liberals" rail against handouts to wealthy land owners on their side, like Sam Donaldson and Ted Turner?

Speaking of hypocrisy......

 

[judyd]

Anyone who doesn't use the LEGAL tax code to their advantage is a moron or has a very shitty accountant. Don't worry folks. Her family makes over 250K. They already pay far more than the rest of us. What's fair - 70 percent.

Hey _ let"s compare the charitable giving for the Bachmans vs. The Bidens. That should be fun.

And just for the record - I think Biden is a cheap prick and a hypocrite but not necessarily 'evil" or a welfare queen.

Here's one of bachman's donations!

Last fall, the Minnesota Independent reported that Rep. Michele Bachmann’s campaign made a $9,200 charitable contribution to the faith-based drug treatment program Minnesota Teen Challenge on Oct. 3, 2008, in an effort to wash its hands of tainted contributions from Tom Petters associate Frank Vennes, Jr.

The Minnesota Independent has recently learned that Minnesota Teen Challenge returned the donation to Bachmann two weeks later.

“We didn’t want to be involved if it was dirty money,” Rich Scherber, executive director of Minnesota Teen Challenge, told MnIndy.

Bachmann’s close ties to Vennes became public before the election, when it was revealed that she had written a letter requesting a presidential pardon for the convicted money-launderer and drug-smuggler. She withdrew the letter when Vennes’ name became connected to the Petters multi-billion-dollar Ponzi scheme scandal. But she gave back only a portion of the tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions she has received from Vennes and his family since 2005.
Scherber says that when Bachmann’s office made the donation, it explained the connection between the campaign’s charitable contribution to them and Vennes’ campaign contributions to Bachmann.

‘Dirty money’: MN Teen Challenge returned Bachmann’s contribution « Minnesota Independent: News. Politics. Media.

 

[chanel]

Aren't we We all hypocrites?. I am an RC, a Rep an pro-choice. A hypocrite or a free-thinker? Look ib the morror people. Libs canb be holier than thou can't they?

 

[noose4]

What do right wing conservatives have against the free market? They seem to think that giving handouts to wealthy landowners is not the same socialist principle which they rail against the liberals.

Why don't Fabian socialist "liberals" rail against handouts to wealthy land owners on their side, like Sam Donaldson and Ted Turner?

Speaking of hypocrisy......

I am against handouts to the wealthy no matter their political persuasion, but I have no problem with the government giving aid to the poor folks regardless of who they vote for.

 

[Oddball]

Aren't we We all hypocrites?. I am an RC, a Rep an pro-choice. A hypocrite or a free-thinker? Look ib the mirror people. Libs canb be holier than thou can't they?

They put out the "free lunch" sign, then scowl at those who qualify for it from taking it, dare they have the "wrong" political party affiliation.

Stalinists to the very bitter end.

 

[The Rabbi]

What do right wing conservatives have against the free market? They seem to think that giving handouts to wealthy landowners is not the same socialist principle which they rail against the liberals.

Can you show where Michelle Bachman supported these subsidies? No, probably not. I'm all in favor of ending them. Ronald Reagan's first act after he was shot was signing a bill lowering or eliminating milk price supports.
No, it is liberal Democratic senators from farm states that consistently push these dinosaur programs.

 

[noose4]

Aren't we We all hypocrites?. I am an RC, a Rep an pro-choice. A hypocrite or a free-thinker? Look ib the morror people. Libs canb be holier than thou can't they?

You would only be a hypocrite if your actions go against your said beliefs, one should have some opinions that differ from your political party's beliefs.

 

[noose4]

What do right wing conservatives have against the free market? They seem to think that giving handouts to wealthy landowners is not the same socialist principle which they rail against the liberals.

Can you show where Michelle Bachman supported these subsidies? No, probably not. I'm all in favor of ending them. Ronald Reagan's first act after he was shot was signing a bill lowering or eliminating milk price supports.
No, it is liberal Democratic senators from farm states that consistently push these dinosaur programs.

By collecting them she is supporting them.

 

[noose4]

Aren't we We all hypocrites?. I am an RC, a Rep an pro-choice. A hypocrite or a free-thinker? Look ib the mirror people. Libs canb be holier than thou can't they?

They put out the "free lunch" sign, then scowl at those who qualify for it from taking it, dare they have the "wrong" political party affiliation.

Stalinists to the very bitter end.

Those who eat the free lunch shouldnt try to shut down the kitchen while they have food stuck in their teeth.

 

[The Rabbi]

What do right wing conservatives have against the free market? They seem to think that giving handouts to wealthy landowners is not the same socialist principle which they rail against the liberals.

Can you show where Michelle Bachman supported these subsidies? No, probably not. I'm all in favor of ending them. Ronald Reagan's first act after he was shot was signing a bill lowering or eliminating milk price supports.
No, it is liberal Democratic senators from farm states that consistently push these dinosaur programs.

By collecting them she is supporting them.

Really? How do you figure that? I guess by paying income taxes I am supporting the income tax. Or by paying property taxes I am supporting the idea of public schools. Or by taking tax deductions I support the present tax structure.
You really need to get a clue here.

 

[noose4]

Can you show where Michelle Bachman supported these subsidies? No, probably not. I'm all in favor of ending them. Ronald Reagan's first act after he was shot was signing a bill lowering or eliminating milk price supports.
No, it is liberal Democratic senators from farm states that consistently push these dinosaur programs.

By collecting them she is supporting them.

Really? How do you figure that? I guess by paying income taxes I am supporting the income tax. Or by paying property taxes I am supporting the idea of public schools. Or by taking tax deductions I support the present tax structure.
You really need to get a clue here.

It is against the law to not pay your taxes but nobody is being forced to take government handouts, are you so blind to not see the hypocrisy in railing about government handouts while collecting government handouts?

 

[judyd]

What do right wing conservatives have against the free market? They seem to think that giving handouts to wealthy landowners is not the same socialist principle which they rail against the liberals.

Why don't Fabian socialist "liberals" rail against handouts to wealthy land owners on their side, like Sam Donaldson and Ted Turner?

Speaking of hypocrisy......

I didn't realize Sam Donaldson and Ted Turner were speaking out and organizing citizens to protest healthcare reform in the country, which could possibly help those who can't afford it. This is what bachman has been doing. She rages against any program that won't have something in it for her.

 

[chanel]

Such as farm subsidies? I don't get your point. I

 

[ba1614]

Anyone who doesn't use the LEGAL tax code to their advantage is a moron or has a very shitty accountant. Don't worry folks. Her family makes over 250K. They already pay far more than the rest of us. What's fair - 70 percent.

Hey _ let"s compare the charitable giving for the Bachmans vs. The Bidens. That should be fun.

And just for the record - I think Biden is a cheap prick and a hypocrite but not necessarily 'evil" or a welfare queen.

Exactly, anyone who doesn't is either to fuckin' stupid, or to cheap to hire a good tax accountant.

Now if she voted for whatever approved it, then yes, that would be hypocritical.

 

[The Rabbi]

By collecting them she is supporting them.

Really? How do you figure that? I guess by paying income taxes I am supporting the income tax. Or by paying property taxes I am supporting the idea of public schools. Or by taking tax deductions I support the present tax structure.
You really need to get a clue here.

It is against the law to not pay your taxes but nobody is being forced to take government handouts, are you so blind to not see the hypocrisy in railing about government handouts while collecting government handouts?

But it is not against the law to take deductions to which you are entitled. Just like it is not against the law to take government benefits that you are entitled to, like farm subsidies.
And no I dont see any hypocrisy here, except from the Dems.

 

[noose4]

Really? How do you figure that? I guess by paying income taxes I am supporting the income tax. Or by paying property taxes I am supporting the idea of public schools. Or by taking tax deductions I support the present tax structure.
You really need to get a clue here.

It is against the law to not pay your taxes but nobody is being forced to take government handouts, are you so blind to not see the hypocrisy in railing about government handouts while collecting government handouts?

But it is not against the law to take deductions to which you are entitled. Just like it is not against the law to take government benefits that you are entitled to, like farm subsidies.
And no I dont see any hypocrisy here, except from the Dems.

So just for the record you see no hypocrisy in railing about government handouts while taking government handouts? really? really?

What is your opinion on loose women who preach abstinence? Or male preachers who teach that homosexuality is bad while having a stable of men they have sex with?

 

[chanel]

Nice deflection. Are you suggesting that Ms. Bachmann is a loose woman or a male preacher? Or perhaps she just lets her accountant prepare her tax returns to the best of their ability? I'll go with the latter.

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According to the US Government Printing Office, it's 13,458 pages in total. The full text of Title 26 of the United States Code (the part written by Congress--available for an additional $179) is a mere 3,387 printed pages, bringing the adjusted gross page count to 16,845.

How Long is the US Tax Code?

Anyone who claims to understand all of it is a fucking liar. Anyone who doesn't listen to their accountant is a fucking retard. No offense to anyone on this thread.