Mexico Warns US, They May Be Bothered. Wow

[kaz]

Even Their Classmates on the Right Use That Illegitimate Term


Notice the traitors' progression from "illegal aliens" to "illegal immigrants." Calling these lawless creatures "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters "shoppers."

Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant", is like calling a bank robber, an "informal withdrawl agent"

Yes, it's retarded. The problem isn't that they aren't documented, the problem is that they are criminals who came here in violations of our laws.

Illegal alien running across the desert to his wife. Honey, did you remember to send in the form to document that we're running across the desert? No? Oh crap, now we're undocumented.

Let's document them and escort them back to wherever they came from

 

[Doc1]

You're flat out wrong and I sourced it. They CAN be used on the border, they CAN use their weapons, and they CAN be used for Law Enforcement purposes. Thank you Patriot Act and NDAA.

Insurrection Act.

Insurrection Act - Wikipedia

Your link says that the military can only be used AFTER local authorities and police have failed to keep control of the population.

What population centers are currently in full blown revolt or insurrection?

"Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies." It provided that:

The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack" or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.[7]

This has nothing to do with it. The military's Constitutional job is to secure our borders. No further justification is required

It has everything to do with I, you just don't know the context of the conversation.

 

[kaz]

You're flat out wrong and I sourced it. They CAN be used on the border, they CAN use their weapons, and they CAN be used for Law Enforcement purposes. Thank you Patriot Act and NDAA.

Insurrection Act.

Insurrection Act - Wikipedia

Your link says that the military can only be used AFTER local authorities and police have failed to keep control of the population.

What population centers are currently in full blown revolt or insurrection?

"Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies." It provided that:

The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack" or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.[7]

This has nothing to do with it. The military's Constitutional job is to secure our borders. No further justification is required

It has everything to do with I, you just don't know the context of the conversation.

You're talking about the domestic use of the military, which is irrelevant since we're discussing their defined purpose of defending our borders

 

[Cellblock2429]

It absolutely is higher production costs. That’s why that Carrier plant that Trump “saved” is still moving jobs to Mexico despite the massive bribe Trump and Pence paid them in tax breaks.

And is that why GM and FORD and other companies are moving back to the US from Mexico ? Keep banging your head against the wall, if you wish.

There was a guy on the news last night that was being interviewed who said that he'd voted for Trump. Now? He's kinda sorry that he did because the steel tariffs have increased the cost of his trailers that he builds by 25 percent, and he's not sure he can stay competitive with others or even stay in business.

Wanna talk about the soybean farmers? If China boycotts American soybeans, they don't have to worry, because they also trade with Brazil which has had a bumper crop of soybeans recently.

/——/ Steel ETF SLX is down 3%

 

[The Original Tree]

Can't wait for all of The National Guardsmen to start showing up down there.

 

[The Original Tree]

Zero Tolerance Policy Announced.

Justice Department announces 'zero-tolerance' policy on illegal border crossings

 

[protectionist]

Zero Tolerance Policy Announced.

Justice Department announces 'zero-tolerance' policy on illegal border crossings

Company: Fix bayonets!

 

[Bush92]

Get ready for a big HUH ??? Mexico is warning the US that if American National Guard troops placed on the border result in a militarization of it, that relations may be impaired.

Whoa! "Relations" ? So, in other words, Mexico is saying that if we take steps to defend ourselves from the 70 year invasion of our border they have been perpetrating....the international burglary of our economy they have been committing....the theft of millions of our jobs they have done...the theft of Billions of our tax dollars$$...then their feelings will be hurt.

This is like if your next door neighbor was entering your house every week for decades, and stealing things from you, and now you say he shouldn't come in any more, he'll be miffed.
I have one question. Why has Mexico not been taken over by the US, and made into a US territory, under all our laws and regualtions ? And why wasn't this done many years ago ?

After the Mexican-American War (1846-1848), then US President James K. Polk was outraged that we acquired 1/2 of Mexico's territory. Polk thought we should have gotten ALL of Mexico, and made it part of the US, entirely under US rule. No US president ever said anything more correct.

Slowly becoming the greatest President of all time.
Justice Department announces 'zero-tolerance' policy on illegal border crossings

 

[The Original Tree]

Zero Tolerance Policy Announced.

Justice Department announces 'zero-tolerance' policy on illegal border crossings

Company: Fix bayonets!

Haha. Now that made me laugh.

 

[Care4all]

They have been sent to assist border patrol on several occasions and this will be no different.... they were not allowed to use their guns, they were not allowed to officially arrest anyone....they were allowed to assist the border patrol but not be militarized....

Trump made it sound like they were going there with arms in hand and were going to use them if someone crossed the border, and that simply is not the case.....

that's all I am saying....

You and everyone else can go and pretend all you want....that this is some BIGLEY macho Trumpian effort to fight the enemy....I can't stop you....

What NG troops do at the Mexican border remains to be seen. There is no such thing as >> "this will be no different.... they were not allowed to use their guns, they were not allowed to officially arrest anyone....they were allowed to assist the border patrol but not be militarized...."

In the past, large numbers of National Guard troops have been sent to the Mexican border. 102 years ago, a liberal Democrat, President Woodrow Wilson, ordered an estimated 75,000 National Guard troops to protect that same southern border after incursions across the U.S. border by Mexicans led by Pancho Villa. This effort placing National Guard military troops on our southern border 102 years ago, effectively sealed our border from further illegal raids into the United States.

Wilson also sent thousands of US troops under the command of General John J. Pershing into Mexico itself to assure of our border’s protection, and chased the Pancho Villa band right down into Mexico. And 70 years before that, 100,000 US troops surrounded Mexico city for 3 months, forcing the Mexicans to cede 1/2 of their territory to the US.

Anything can happen.

As you said, we will see, what the Law allows.... or what President Trump does, that may be different from the last 2 presidents that called in the NG to help border patrol....

 

[Flash]

Where is Winfield Scott when we really need him?

 

[Issa]

$138 billion is drop in a bucket of how many trillions fo dollars did the economy benefited from them and thousands of businesses live off their hard work from a rancher in Texas to a restaurant in Wyoming.
We spent trillions on wars in the middle east and we didn't squat back.

The economy has not benefitted ANYTHING from them. If they weren't in the jobs they're in, Americans would be in those jobs, and the Americans would be spending their wages in American stores (AKA "the economy"), not sending hundreds of Billions$$ of it out of the country, to be re-inserted into other countries' economies.

Immigrants are a complete loss to the economy, from the smaller disposable income + the remittances, AND to the tax treasuries as well. And $138 Billion is not a drop in any bucket.

Americans can't do those jobs. There are places where they have to bring in refugees because the whites cant pass drug test.
A 300lbs couch potatoes can do what immigrants do.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Both Bush and Obama put National Guard on the borders with similar responses.

But let's get real here guys, this does not compare to Sherman's running through the racist Confed Hucklefvcks during his March to the Sea. The Neo-Redneck Traitors haven't gotten over that for years. YEARS!

 

[protectionist]

As you said, we will see, what the Law allows.... or what President Trump does, that may be different from the last 2 presidents that called in the NG to help border patrol....

Probably depends on what Mexico does, with her illegal alien pillager "troops" Regardless of what they do though, the wall will be built. Big and bold. That's my prediction.

My predictions are pretty good. Before the primaries, I predicted Trump would beat all 16 contenders, and then go on to beat Hillary in the GE.

 

[protectionist]

Americans can't do those jobs. There are places where they have to bring in refugees because the whites cant pass drug test.
A 300lbs couch potatoes can do what immigrants do.

HA HA, man, we do get some dumb posters here.

EARTH TO ISSA: Americans, for years, have been doing the same jobs that immigrants have been doing, and the toughest, dirtiest, and most dangerous ones have been done almost 100% by Americans.

 

[Issa]

Americans can't do those jobs. There are places where they have to bring in refugees because the whites cant pass drug test.
A 300lbs couch potatoes can do what immigrants do.

HA HA, man, we do get some dumb posters here.

EARTH TO ISSA: Americans, for years, have been doing the same jobs that immigrants have been doing, and the toughest, dirtiest, and most dangerous ones have been done almost 100% by Americans.

Not anymore....Americans don't wanna do them. Even the military begs illegals and others to join their ranks in promise of a green card. You can start by going south and pick fruits and vegetables or guard the border.

 

[protectionist]

Both Bush and Obama put National Guard on the borders with similar responses.

But let's get real here guys, this does not compare to Sherman's running through the racist Confed Hucklefvcks during his March to the Sea. The Neo-Redneck Traitors haven't gotten over that for years. YEARS!

If there is one, damned if I can find it,

 

[protectionist]

Not anymore....Americans don't wanna do them. Even the military begs illegals and others to join their ranks in promise of a green card. You can start by going south and pick fruits and vegetables or guard the border.

BULLSHIT!!

And picking fruit is a piece of cake. Here's the tough jobs that AMERICANS DO, not immigrants >>

 

[Care4all]

As you said, we will see, what the Law allows.... or what President Trump does, that may be different from the last 2 presidents that called in the NG to help border patrol....

Probably depends on what Mexico does, with her illegal alien pillager "troops" Regardless of what they do though, the wall will be built. Big and bold. That's my prediction.

My predictions are pretty good. Before the primaries, I predicted Trump would beat all 16 contenders, and then go on to beat Hillary in the GE.

I think it will....not a wall but a wall with slots in it, so you can see thru it, basically a real sturdy Fence will be added to what we have already.....in the places needed..... it will not be across our entire border, there are many areas that won't need one due to natural conditions like a mountainous region or a dessert region with no towns around on either side...

If we do have to pay for it, and not Mexico as the president chanted and promised then it should come out of the 3/4's of a trillion dollars in our yearly Defense/Pentagon budget... since you all are claiming our border security is in our National defense....and it could be argued as such imo too.

I'm certain there is some military industrial complex wish list that they want our gvt to pay for that is probably just wasted money that could fund it, without our national defense missing a beat!

You would think the $1.8 billion slotted would be a good start for heaven's sake....

that is one thousand eight hundred, MILLION dollars. yes, 1800 million dollars!!!! I just can not comprehend ever needing the 25,000 million dollars the estimate came to.....that is just incomprehensible to me for a darn sturdy fence or wall.....

maybe most of that money is to buy out some of the land from land owners on the border, many of whom do not want to give it up.....? so it could cost a pretty penny for that, but truly....it all seems just outrageous....

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Hate to spoil the CNN mantra, but prices won't be going up.


1. Major reduction in the Corporate tax

2 Major reductions in business regulations

3. Shipping costs are much lower US internally, than from outside the US.

4 Energy costs have dropped

5. Very difficult for companies to raise prices (anytime) Prices are set by sales. When prices are hiked above current rates, sales (and income) go down.

These partisan cheerleaders who throw out empty talking points as if their personal anecdotes must work for everyone are a hoot. Well, here's my anecdotal counter to your funny list of imaginary things, Zeke:

1. My business tax rate has seen negligible difference from last year, even after deductions. Also, you need to hire a creative accounting firm to take full advantage - an added expense when local Joe or Suzy bookkeeper charge more reasonable fees. Hardly 'major', more like 'bullshit'.

2. Yeah, thanks, but keep your bullshit, we're all full up. The regulations? I watched that dog and pony show too. The Orange Virus posturing, pointing at stacks of paper saying it's 1960 all over again and cutting a ribbon. I've seen drunk/high/on the spectrum people put together much, much more lucid, comprehensive presentations on their worst day than the Orange Virus does on the fly. What a total shit show he is. BTW: I've also seen zero change to regulation in my industry over the past year, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

3. This statement is just plain devoid of meaning bullshit. First, shipping depends on geography, and geographically it's completely logical to assume it's cheaper moving stuff internally than having to hop across large masses of water. Derp! The U.S. is not alone in this. This isn't much of an achievement.
Two, depends entirely upon what you ship, now don't it, slick? That might be good for Joe Consumers getting a box of crap from Amazon delivered to their home, but I sometimes have to ship things weighing several tons. I've only seen increases in those particular costs per the last several years.

4. Gas prices are increasing in my neck of the woods as I write this. I've seen no dramatic decrease in my energy costs (I check the bills). Increasing fuel prices will impact shipping costs, genius. Believe it or don't, whatever. Smells like... bullshit to me, though.

5. Duh. That's just Econ 101 philosophy. The Orange Virus had nothing to do with that. Go back to sleep.