mexicans are people too

[Mac-7]

Better public transportation!

Yeah, a free bus ride back to mexico

 

[Unkotare]

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But illegal aliens should not be in this country
...

That's true.

 

[danielpalos]

Better public transportation!

Yeah, a free bus ride back to mexico

How about fixing the law so we have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass?

 

[Unkotare]

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when they drive drunk and kill someone thats [sic] a crime that can be avoided

Your butchering of the English language is also a crime that could be avoided.

When one illegal alien drives drunk are all illegal aliens guilty of drunk driving, or of being in the country illegally?

 

[Mac-7]

How about fixing the law so we have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass?

You mean throw Americans in jail

 

[Mac-7]

When one illegal alien drives drunk are all illegal aliens guilty of drunk driving, or of being in the country illegally?

They are certainly guilty of being in the country illegally

if we deport all illegal aliens American lives will be saved

 

[DGS49]

It is generally conceded that President Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" (in which millions of illegals were physically deported to Mexico, en masse) cannot be duplicated today...for whatever reason(s). It is also undeniable that large numbers of illegal workers are a "vital" part of our economy, and to deport them would not only be a humanitarian "problem," but would also harm our own economy, at least in the short term (until legal "guest workers" could be brought in to replace them). Conversely, it is a statistical and financial fact that the majority of illegals are on some sort of government assistance - and that is not even counting the cost of educating their offspring in American public schools - and are a terrible drain on the resources of American taxpayers.

What to do?

Well, the only viable solution is to create a "path to legality" for those who, by whatever means, have become productive members of our society. Set up a set of criteria for those productive illegals...employment, paying taxes, an absence of criminal history, not on welfare, and so on. Then screen every illegal that we can locate to identify those who meet those criteria and those who don't. The latter group will be deported, and the former will be given a new Government-issued ID card. Call it a "Blue Card" or whatever. That card signifies that the person is now legally in the country and can work, pay taxes, take advantage of programs that they are otherwise eligible for (e.g., in-state tuition at state schools, unemployment compensation, Social Security), BUT THEY CAN NEVER BECOME VOTING CITIZENS. That is the price they pay for coming here illegally. In fact, in my plan, they would have to sign a WAIVER of ever even applying for citizenship in order to get a Blue Card.

This plan addresses President Obama's complaint that these "good people" must live "in the shadows" because of their illegal status, but it also resolves the Republican objection to a takeover of Federal elections by a horde of 30 million New Democrat voters.

Why hasn't any politician thought of this?

 

[danielpalos]

How about fixing the law so we have no illegal problem or any illegal underclass?

You mean throw Americans in jail

lol. Having no solutions from right wingers is better than some solutions they may propose.

 

[Mac-7]

lol. Having no solutions from right wingers is better than some solutions they may propose.

You did not explain yourself so I filled in the blanks for you

 

[danielpalos]

lol. Having no solutions from right wingers is better than some solutions they may propose.

You did not explain yourself so I filled in the blanks for you

We have a general welfare clause not a general badfare clause.

 

[Mac-7]

It is generally conceded that President Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" (in which millions of illegals were physically deported to Mexico, en masse) cannot be duplicated today...for whatever reason(s). It is also undeniable that large numbers of illegal workers are a "vital" part of our economy, and to deport them would not only be a humanitarian "problem," but would also harm our own economy, at least in the short term (until legal "guest workers" could be brought in to replace them). Conversely, it is a statistical and financial fact that the majority of illegals are on some sort of government assistance - and that is not even counting the cost of educating their offspring in American public schools - and are a terrible drain on the resources of American taxpayers.

What to do?

Well, the only viable solution is to create a "path to legality" for those who, by whatever means, have become productive members of our society. Set up a set of criteria for those productive illegals...employment, paying taxes, an absence of criminal history, not on welfare, and so on. Then screen every illegal that we can locate to identify those who meet those criteria and those who don't. The latter group will be deported, and the former will be given a new Government-issued ID card. Call it a "Blue Card" or whatever. That card signifies that the person is now legally in the country and can work, pay taxes, take advantage of programs that they are otherwise eligible for (e.g., in-state tuition at state schools, unemployment compensation, Social Security), BUT THEY CAN NEVER BECOME VOTING CITIZENS. That is the price they pay for coming here illegally. In fact, in my plan, they would have to sign a WAIVER of ever even applying for citizenship in order to get a Blue Card.

This plan addresses President Obama's complaint that these "good people" must live "in the shadows" because of their illegal status, but it also resolves the Republican objection to a takeover of Federal elections by a horde of 30 million New Democrat voters.

Why hasn't any politician thought of this?

I like your provision that the people getting amnesty can never vote

but I dont think democrats would honor the deal even if it were constitutional

and without sealing the border we will have the same problem again 10-20 yesrs later

so its a good start but needs more work

 

[Unkotare]

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if we deport all illegal aliens American lives will be saved

If we prevent illegal crossing in the first place, even more will be saved.

 

[Mac-7]

If we prevent illegal crossing in the first place, even more will be saved.

I agree

it libs fight against the wall or increased border patrol ability

 

[Unkotare]

If we prevent illegal crossing in the first place, even more will be saved.

I agree

it libs fight against the wall or increased border patrol ability

Well, go tell them libs about it!

 

[Mac-7]

Well, go tell them libs about it!

I do whenever this topic comes up