Men who run into burning buildings, walk into warzones, and keep the worst of society locked away typically don't vote left. Does this matter?

[Anomalism]

What are the "conservative values"?


Not all of those values necessarily correlate with one another. Just because you broadly label them as "conservative" doesn't mean that they're the same.

You're trying to sidestep the central point of the thread, which is grounded in measurable statistical trends. Data consistently shows that individuals in high-risk, high-responsibility roles identify as politically conservative at significantly higher rates than the general population.

This correlation isn't speculative; it's documented across surveys and demographic studies. The question is not whether all conservative values are monolithic, but why those who voluntarily assume dangerous, sacrificial roles overwhelmingly lean right politically. That is the axis of inquiry, why those who choose to put their lives on the line for others also tend to hold conservative worldviews.

It seems like you're avoiding engaging with the empirical pattern under discussion.

 

[Correll]

Go back to the crumbling castles of Europe where you belong. Do your peasant groveling before your HeirHead masters over there. Choke on the dust from the guillotined skulls of the American plutocracy's role models.

MAGA is a peasant revolt. ON your side, the party elite stole the nomination from Sanders and gave it to the annointed one, ie Hillary.

And Sanders and the leftard based, sucked it up like the good little bitches that they are.

So... simp on, serf boi.

 

[citygator]

Those slavers were some mean SOBs.

The southern white conservatives?

 

[Correll]

The southern white conservatives?

Comparing political groups across time is a shaky business at best.

You are clearly being dishonest.


The idea of imported cheap, and exploited labor, to keep cost low, is the point both in slavery and in mass migration.


In this, it is not "southern whites" that are the continuity, but the democrat party and the vicious ideals of very old school imperialism.

 

[citygator]

Comparing political groups across time is a shaky business at best.

You are clearly being dishonest.


The idea of imported cheap, and exploited labor, to keep cost low, is the point both in slavery and in mass migration.


In this, it is not "southern whites" that are the continuity, but the democrat party and the vicious ideals of very old school imperialism.

Treating groups as if they are subhuman is the continuity genius. And that is Southern/Rural whites, currently in the GOP, thinking blacks are subhuman.. still do... and now thinking immigrants are subhuman, also currently in the GOP. Get a grip my man.

 

[Correll]

Treating groups as if they are subhuman is the continuity genius. And that is Southern whites, currently in the GOP, thinking blacks are subhuman.. still do... and no thinking immigrants are subhuman, also currently in the GOP. Get a grip my man.

Except that is not true. This country has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks since the mid 60s.


To the point that we had a massive and generations long policy of demanding and enforcing massive anti-white racist discrimination, to help blacks "gain ground" or "make up for past injustices".


So, your claim is clearly and obviously false. To the point one would have to be a horrific liar, or completely retarded to say it.



Today, the DEMS are teh party of racism. THey support anti-white racism to pander for black votes and they want to import brown third world workers to be exploited as cheap labor.

 

[citygator]

Except that is not true. This country has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks since the mid 60s.


To the point that we had a massive and generations long policy of demanding and enforcing massive anti-white racist discrimination, to help blacks "gain ground" or "make up for past injustices".


So, your claim is clearly and obviously false. To the point one would have to be a horrific liar, or completely retarded to say it.



Today, the DEMS are teh party of racism. THey support anti-white racism to pander for black votes and they want to import brown third world workers to be exploited as cheap labor.

What board are you on? This whole board is a right wing racist destination. Its also a xenophobe destination. Are you really going to debate that?

I am not saying every GOP supporter is a racist xenophobe but every GOP supporter either IS a racist xenophobe OR is fine tolerating racist xenophobes.

 

[Correll]

What board are you on? This whole board is a right wing racist destination. Its also a xenophobe destination. Are you really going to debate that?

I am not saying every GOP supporter is a racist xenophobe but every GOP supporter either IS a racist xenophobe OR is fine tolerating racist xenophobes.

Note how in my post, I cited generations of bi-partisan policy and law and practice, and history


and in yours you just sort of spamed negs ?

That is you not having the balls to just take the L.


The fact remains. Your side is the side of exploiting cheap imported labor, and my side is the one that wants to NOT do that, and having higher wages for AMERICAN WORKERS.

 

[citygator]

Note how in my post, I cited generations of bi-partisan policy and law and practice, and history


and in yours you just sort of spamed negs ?

That is you not having the balls to just take the L.


The fact remains. Your side is the side of exploiting cheap imported labor, and my side is the one that wants to NOT do that, and having higher wages for AMERICAN WORKERS.

Give me one step in the last 50 years from the GOP that supports your statement as the GOP dismantles any attempt to monitor and ensure diversity is progressing.

 

[Correll]

Give me one step in the last 50 years from the GOP that supports your statement as the GOP dismantles any attempt to monitor and ensure diversity is progressing.

nixon desegregating schools in the South.

 

[citygator]

nixon desegregating schools in the South.

I find it hilarious that your example is 55 years ago even though i asked for something in the last 50 years.

 

[Correll]

I find it hilarious that your example is 55 years ago even though i asked for something in the last 50 years.

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I made a point about how this nation has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks since the mid 60s.


So, it was just retarded of you to limit your request to 50 years, when my start point was the mid 60s.


I don't always comment on when leftards are retarded. Sometimes I just dismiss it and move on.


IN this case, I gave you a good example. A very powerful one. Nixon is supposedly the inventor of the "southern strategy" of appealing to souther racism, when in reality, he had a very strong record of FIGHTING what was left of DEMOCRATIC RACISM in the south.


So, would you asked for an example of the GOP supporting "diversity" and I gave you one. Would you like to address it now, or would you prefer to keep dodging and weaving?

 

[citygator]

I made a point about how this nation has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks since the mid 60s.


So, it was just retarded of you to limit your request to 50 years, when my start point was the mid 60s.


I don't always comment on when leftards are retarded. Sometimes I just dismiss it and move on.


IN this case, I gave you a good example. A very powerful one. Nixon is supposedly the inventor of the "southern strategy" of appealing to souther racism, when in reality, he had a very strong record of FIGHTING what was left of DEMOCRATIC RACISM in the south.


So, would you asked for an example of the GOP supporting "diversity" and I gave you one. Would you like to address it now, or would you prefer to keep dodging and weaving?

You cannot come up with anything in the last 50 years. I will concede that the GOP was not the exclusive party of racists over 50 years ago. 1960-1970 the GOP moved on the southern strategy courting southern racists and since then there has been nothing but a brick wall of racism infecting the GOP.

So the challenge is out there for you to find any support of bi-partisan equality for blacks from the GOP from the last 50 years.

 

[Correll]

You cannot come up with anything in the last 50 years. I will concede that the GOP was not the exclusive party of racists over 50 years ago. 1960-1970 the GOP moved on the southern strategy courting southern racists and since then there has been nothing but a brick wall of racism infecting the GOP.

So the challenge is out there for you to find any support of bi-partisan equality for blacks from the GOP from the last 50 years.

Teh primary force of the push for equality for blacks since the mis 60s has been Affrimative Action, under the many names used for it.

EVERY republican president up to, and including Trump (till now) supported that and had policies of Affrimative Action under their administrations.

 

[citygator]

Teh primary force of the push for equality for blacks since the mis 60s has been Affrimative Action, under the many names used for it.

EVERY republican president up to, and including Trump (till now) supported that and had policies of Affrimative Action under their administrations.

You are out of your element here. Just take the loss on move on:

For decades Republicans actively promoted the idea that affirmative action involved unfair "racial preferences" or "quotas". Just a few examples of your bullshit statement refuted by actions in the 90s. The 2000’s were even worse.

Equal Opportunity Act of 1995 (sponsored by Bob Dole) would have banned federal affirmative action programs.

Proposition 209 (1996) was a California ballot initiative, championed by Republicans and their allies, successfully amended the state constitution to prohibit state government entities from considering race

 

[frackapisa]

IN this case, I gave you a good example. A very powerful one. Nixon is supposedly the inventor of the "southern strategy" of appealing to souther racism, when in reality, he had a very strong record of FIGHTING what was left of DEMOCRATIC RACISM in the south.

Nixon didn't fight racism, the overwhelmingly democratic congress fought racism.

Here's a hint... Carl Albert and Mike Mansfield

 

[frackapisa]

You cannot come up with anything in the last 50 years. I will concede that the GOP was not the exclusive party of racists over 50 years ago. 1960-1970 the GOP moved on the southern strategy courting southern racists and since then there has been nothing but a brick wall of racism infecting the GOP.

So the challenge is out there for you to find any support of bi-partisan equality for blacks from the GOP from the last 50 years.

Republicans in the beginning (1860's) were the party of Lincoln. With all the first black members elected to congress being republicans.

That changed, as you pointed out between the 1960's and 1970's.

And easily reflected by looking at who elects black people to congress now,.

The black caucus went from 100% republican to around 5% republican now.

That's a huge swing.

 

[initforme]

Its vital that people who are asked to run into burning buildings have union protections. Vital in fact.

 

[braalian]

isn’t there already a thread about this ridiculous topic?

You’re delusional if you think your political beliefs make you more of a man.

Its pathetic

 

[frackapisa]

Teh primary force of the push for equality for blacks since the mis 60s has been Affrimative Action, under the many names used for it.

EVERY republican president up to, and including Trump (till now) supported that and had policies of Affrimative Action under their administrations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2024/01/21/ronald-reagan-affirmative-action-dei/

When Reagan tried to undo affirmative action, corporations fought back

President Ronald Reagan had been slowly chipping away at affirmative action since taking office in 1981, but it was six months into his second term that his administration saw its chance to deal it a decisive blow.

Reagan and his Cabinet viewed his resounding electoral victory against Walter Mondale in 1984 as a mandate to end the Lyndon B. Johnson-era policy requiring all government contractors to take “affirmative action” to end discrimination at their firms. By the mid-’80s, that meant some of the country’s largest companies — such as General Motors, IBM and Merck — had implemented robust affirmative action plans to hire women and people of color.

Reagan’s replacement order would have removed those requirements, a policy consistent with his push for deregulation and vision for a racially colorblind America. If all went according to plan, the new executive order would be viewed as the administration’s “landmark legacy,”

But after the plan leaked to the media, the effort unraveled.

Backlash came from civil rights groups, Democrats and Republicans — but also from corporate America.

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