Men who run into burning buildings, walk into warzones, and keep the worst of society locked away typically don't vote left. Does this matter?

[Monoculturalist]

Have no numbers on how brave people vote.
THERE ARE BRAVE PEOPLE IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE.
Fight wars or fight fires, But do remember that Woman where Not allowed
to do much of anything, not even vote! for Many years.

Women were indeed prohibited from many things in life before feminism, but there were several tradeoffs involved.

For example, they weren't subject to the draft. They still aren't. They were afforded many protections over men in terms of family court and criminal culpability. They still are.

The problem is that, for every benefit or right extended to women through feminism, the prior protections and benefits that were granted in consolation of less freedom were not changed to actually make things equal between men and women. In short, feminists want all the freedoms and rights of men while still holding onto the benefits and protections they already had.

That's not a pursuit of equality. That's a pursuit of favoritism.

The problems with this arrangement are compounded by the simple fact that society depends on men to provide the majority of protections from domestic and foreign threats. This simple truth is part of why men were granted more freedoms. It's because they inherently have more responsibilities.

 

[braalian]

Women were indeed prohibited from many things in life before feminism, but there were several tradeoffs involved.

For example, they weren't subject to the draft. They still aren't. They were afforded many protections over men in terms of family court and criminal culpability. They still are.

The problem is that, for every benefit or right extended to women through feminism, the prior protections and benefits that were granted in consolation of less freedom were not changed to actually make things equal between men and women. In short, feminists want all the freedoms and rights of men while still holding onto the benefits and protections they already had.

That's not a pursuit of equality. That's a pursuit of favoritism.

The problems with this arrangement are compounded by the simple fact that society depends on men to provide the majority of protections from domestic and foreign threats. This simple truth is part of why men were granted more freedoms. It's because they inherently have more responsibilities.

I’ll agree with this to a very limited extent.

The amount of limitations women historically faced vastly outweighed the amount of benefits they received for being women.

Aside from the narrow context of compulsory military service, most of the benefits women enjoy are purely cultural in nature and can’t/shouldn’t be regulated by laws or government.

I agree that women (feminists) who want equality while maintaining female privileges are annoying and wrong.

But when you put it into the context of all the many, many limitations women have faced for most of human history, it makes it kind of a difficult hill to make a stand on

 

[Monoculturalist]

I’ll agree with this to a very limited extent.

The amount of limitations women historically faced vastly outweighed the amount of benefits they received for being women.

Aside from the narrow context of compulsory military service, most of the benefits women enjoy are purely cultural in nature and can’t/shouldn’t be regulated by laws or government.

I agree that women (feminists) who want equality while maintaining female privileges are annoying and wrong.

But when you put it into the context of all the many, many limitations women have faced for most of human history, it makes it kind of a difficult hill to make a stand on

I guess that depends on the culture. In most Western cultures, women definitely received a lot of protections long before feminism. I'm not saying it was all sunshine and roses for women, but life in general was pretty grim for both sexes up until about the mid-20th Century.

Now, if you're talking about women in various Islamic cultures, that's a different story. I can agree that what they went through (and often still go through) was pretty bad.