Men in women's bathrooms

[Slade3200]

With all the gridlock in congress, the conventional route has proven grossly ineffective. I think Obama Is fed up and in his last few months he is going to push for action where he can. Again I don't agree with what he did, but I understand why he did it.

Gridlock is also part of the process. I don't care if he's fed up, he's not there to write the laws, he's there to enforce them.

Your "understanding" is part of the problem, because even you don't agree (which I doubt) you giving him free pass, since you "understand".

It is also his job to lead and he holds an office that should be respected. THese two things went out the window a long time ago.

 

[Jack4jill]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

I think for most that would depend on the genders involved.

 

[ChrisL]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

I think for most that would depend on the genders involved.

Well, what if your son or daughter married a transgender person. You would never have the joy of grandchildren (unless they decided to adopt, but that can be expensive and not everyone is approved).

 

[Jack4jill]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

I think for most that would depend on the genders involved.

Well, what if your son or daughter married a transgender person. You would never have the joy of grandchildren (unless they decided to adopt, but that can be expensive and not everyone is approved).

What if they married a gay person, an older person, or as a couple they couldn't conceive or carry to term? BFD, grow up.

 

[ChrisL]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

I think for most that would depend on the genders involved.

Well, what if your son or daughter married a transgender person. You would never have the joy of grandchildren (unless they decided to adopt, but that can be expensive and not everyone is approved).

What if they married a gay person, an older person, or as a couple they couldn't conceive or carry to term? BFD, grow up.

I'm the one asking the questions here. Either answer or don't.

 

[Jack4jill]

That goes t
This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

I think for most that would depend on the genders involved.

Well, what if your son or daughter married a transgender person. You would never have the joy of grandchildren (unless they decided to adopt, but that can be expensive and not everyone is approved).

What if they married a gay person, an older person, or as a couple they couldn't conceive or carry to term? BFD, grow up.

I'm the one asking the questions here. Either answer or don't.

The answer is, B. F. D.

 

[Ame®icano]

364 pages of idiots trying to solve an issue and the issue isn't even an issue unless you're too damn stupid to make a choice.

Why does it matter how many pages are there? My forum settings shows 74 pages... Your "364 pages" argument sounds like "it's current year" argument, that lefties use when they know they've lost and they're ready to walk away. You don't like it, walk away...

Somewhere in your account settings, there's one for how many posts per page. Therefore, referring to the number of pages in a thread, or to a specific page number, is meaningless, to someone who has that set differently than you do.

I'm set to 100 posts per page, and for me, this thread currently shows as having 38 pages. I have Tapatalk set, on my phone, for only ten posts per page, so this same thread viewed that way, would be about 380 pages.

How many posts per page is not relevant if thread is for shitcan or not. But he's making it as part of his argument why it should be. He doesn't like that discussion is not going in his favor, and he would say the same thing weather there are 10 pages or a 1000.

 

[ChrisL]

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

I think for most that would depend on the genders involved.

Well, what if your son or daughter married a transgender person. You would never have the joy of grandchildren (unless they decided to adopt, but that can be expensive and not everyone is approved).

What if they married a gay person, an older person, or as a couple they couldn't conceive or carry to term? BFD, grow up.

I'm the one asking the questions here. Either answer or don't.

The answer is, B. F. D.

That's not an answer that I will accept. Next!

 

[Jack4jill]

I think for most that would depend on the genders involved.

Well, what if your son or daughter married a transgender person. You would never have the joy of grandchildren (unless they decided to adopt, but that can be expensive and not everyone is approved).

What if they married a gay person, an older person, or as a couple they couldn't conceive or carry to term? BFD, grow up.

I'm the one asking the questions here. Either answer or don't.

The answer is, B. F. D.

That's not an answer that I will accept. Next!

Only morons think humans were born as baby making machines. Some of can think instead.

 

[Slade3200]

You know how kids are acting when they don't get what they want.

Thankfully, I don't have those issues with my child. He is definitely all boy. Lol. If my boy that messed up about his gender, I would like to think I would have him in therapy pronto.

Transgender kids always get therapy. It's part of the process.

Therapy from a "gender specialist" and NOT a psychiatrist.

What is a gender specialist? Are they licensed?

We already had this discussion yesterday.

What Is a Gender Specialist?

Apologies I must have missed it yesterday. Thanks for posting the link again. It doesn't sound like they are too far off with the criteria to practice as a gender specialist. I'd support a psychiatric license requirement if it was proposed. What specifically are you objecting to? This is from your link:
Becoming a Gender Specialist
If the idea of helping people on their journeys to confidence and self-acceptance appeals to you, then you might want to consider how to begin the path to becoming a gender specialist. A bachelor's degree is necessary. Further higher education is also typically a must, specifically a master's degree in a specialty such as behavioral science. After a gender specialist candidate earns this type of education, training alongside an established professional in the subject is often a smart idea -- usually for no fewer than two years. Since the world of gender identity and its management is a constantly shifting and advancing one, established gender specialists also need to regularly further their education by visiting conferences and meetings centered around gender identity.

Broad Expertise
Gender specialists must have extremely specific expertise in gender dysphoria and other associated matters. However, broad expertise in human sexuality is also extremely useful. Gender specialists should have a deep understanding of sexual ailments, both in identifying them and managing them. Some examples of these ailments include hypersexuality, sexual addiction and uncertainty regarding sexual preferences.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Well the DOJ disagrees with you and so do the two front runners for the next presidency so I don't think this debate is going to end at your statement. Might want to switch gears towards a more proactive argument. It may mean opening yourself up to learn about the trans cause... I know it's tough

DOJ are puppets in hands of politicians. They no longer serve justice, but the agenda of their puppet masters.

So why would I care that they agree or disagree with me, when they're letting real criminals go and making criminals out of law abiding people?

The DOJ is also having its attorneys disciplined for intentionally misleading the Public. And also a judge has Ordered that Loretta Lynch and her team not mislead the public anymore. An example of that would be the DOJ insisting that "men are actually legally women". Currently, Loretta Lynch is in contempt of court for her lawsuit filed against North Carolina.

Texas judge orders DOJ lawyers to take ethics course - CNNPolitics.com

The federal judge who sided with Texas and 25 other states to block President Barack Obama's controversial immigration programs back in 2015 issued a scathing order on Thursday reprimanding Justice Department lawyers for their behavior in the case.

In an unusual opinion, replete with a reference to "Miracle on 34th Street," Judge Andrew Hanen of the US. District Court for the Southern District of Texas ordered that certain DOJ lawyers attend ethics courses.t

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The federal judge who sided with Texas and 25 other states to block President Barack Obama's controversial immigration programs back in 2015 issued a scathing order on Thursday reprimanding Justice Department lawyers for their behavior in the case.

In an unusual opinion, replete with a reference to "Miracle on 34th Street," Judge Andrew Hanen of the US. District Court for the Southern District of Texas ordered that certain DOJ lawyers attend ethics courses.

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Near the end of the opinion he excerpted a portion of the film "Miracle on 34th Street" when a young Tommy Mara Jr. says 'Gosh, everybody knows you shouldn't tell a lie, especially in court.'

"There are certain attorneys in the Justice Department who apparently have not received that message," Hanen said.​

 

[Ame®icano]

This push for sharing restrooms did not come from normal women, since no normal women wants to be forced share restroom with opposite sex. If we look where the push comes from, we'll get many answers to our questions, and a solution as well.

Yes, like that guy from North Carolina, behind the pro-pervert movement there, who turns out to be a convicted sex offender. It's no surprise that sexual predators would be in favor if this madness.

I don't think he's much of the problem, I see him as opportunist who's using this for his own interests. In my opinion, problem is in new wave of feminist man haters and women haters, and feminazis, and "fat acceptance" groups, and "safe space" groups, etc. But that's another issue, for another topic, perhaps.

 

[Slade3200]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

I asked a specific question. Care to answer it? I'm sure everyone has a line as to what is acceptable.

My lines are drawn differently from what I expect of myself and my family versus what I expect of society. I don't impose my values on others and don't expect them to impose theirs onto me. If somebody chopping their dick off is gong to make them feel better then go for it, as long as the process is cleared by doctors... The goal in the that process is to bring comfort and peace of mind to the individual, so I am supportive of that. If I was faced with the situation personally in my own family I'd do everything I can to make my kid feel supported but also try everything I could to help them accept the body they were born in before resorting to drugs or surgery. I've lost people I love to depression and suicide and drugs were a factor in that... so I am very cautious when going down that route. I know they help in some cases but they can be very dangerous in other cases.

 

[Slade3200]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

It would not be my first choice for them and I would struggle with it... At the end of the day all I can do is my best to raise them with the best values and opportunities to succeed then I need to let go and respect what they decide to do in life. Not to say I won't give my input, but I'm not going to let my relationship with them go to shit over something they choose to do with their life.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Boomer the man dog.

CeWEBrity Profile - Boomer the Dog - Uncensored

Did you ever watch a sitcom, from about twenty years ago, called Dharma and Greg? That sitcom poked fun at both sides of the political spectrum, presenting what, at the time, were outrageous exaggerated caricatures of liberalism and conservatism.

Oddly, liberalism has devolved into something far more bizarre and extreme than the caricatures of it that appeared in Dharma and Greg.

Here, from a 1998 episode, is “Mister Boots”, a man who “identifies as a cat”. (Yes, that is Teller, of “Penn & Teller”, playing the part of “Mister Boots”.) I have no doubt that at the time, those who produced this episode had no idea that such nonsense would ever really be taken seriously.

 

[ChrisL]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

I asked a specific question. Care to answer it? I'm sure everyone has a line as to what is acceptable.

My lines are drawn differently from what I expect of myself and my family versus what I expect of society. I don't impose my values on others and don't expect them to impose theirs onto me. If somebody chopping their dick off is gong to make them feel better then go for it, as long as the process is cleared by doctors... The goal in the that process is to bring comfort and peace of mind to the individual, so I am supportive of that. If I was faced with the situation personally in my own family I'd do everything I can to make my kid feel supported but also try everything I could to help them accept the body they were born in before resorting to drugs or surgery. I've lost people I love to depression and suicide and drugs were a factor in that... so I am very cautious when going down that route. I know they help in some cases but they can be very dangerous in other cases.

And what if you brought your child to a psychiatrist for therapy and they referred your child to a gender specialist? You know, 9 times out of 10, they are going to say "oh, your child is transgendered" and want to begin hormone therapy.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

My lines are drawn differently from what I expect of myself and my family versus what I expect of society. I don't impose my values on others and don't expect them to impose theirs onto me.

When you defend forcing women to accept the presence of creepy male perverts in women's restrooms and dressing facilities, then you are, in fact, trying to force your sickness and your immorality, and your lack of values on others.

 

[Slade3200]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

I asked a specific question. Care to answer it? I'm sure everyone has a line as to what is acceptable.

My lines are drawn differently from what I expect of myself and my family versus what I expect of society. I don't impose my values on others and don't expect them to impose theirs onto me. If somebody chopping their dick off is gong to make them feel better then go for it, as long as the process is cleared by doctors... The goal in the that process is to bring comfort and peace of mind to the individual, so I am supportive of that. If I was faced with the situation personally in my own family I'd do everything I can to make my kid feel supported but also try everything I could to help them accept the body they were born in before resorting to drugs or surgery. I've lost people I love to depression and suicide and drugs were a factor in that... so I am very cautious when going down that route. I know they help in some cases but they can be very dangerous in other cases.

And what if you brought your child to a psychiatrist for therapy and they referred your child to a gender specialist? You know, 9 times out of 10, they are going to say "oh, your child is transgendered" and want to begin hormone therapy.

No, thats not how it works. My girl is a licensed counselor and clinical psychologist that works in the school system so I have a little insight into how this works. There is a pretty intensive processes that people go through before receiving hormones or surgery. The hormones aren't much different than birth control... Both do have risks but have been deemed safe enough for legal use... I'm not very familiar with the Gender Specialists that you are talking about but from your article it looks like they need a good amount of education and experience working in the field... I guess it could be more, I wouldn't be opposed to that, but i'd have to learn a little more about it.

 

[Slade3200]

My lines are drawn differently from what I expect of myself and my family versus what I expect of society. I don't impose my values on others and don't expect them to impose theirs onto me.

When you defend forcing women to accept the presence of creepy male perverts in women's restrooms and dressing facilities, then you are, in fact, trying to force your sickness and your immorality, and your lack of values on others.

I'm expressing my opinion in a discussion forum ya dipshit... I'm not holding a gun to anybodies head

 

[Silhouette]

You're advocating for holding a gun to 17 million rape survivors' heads though.