BookShaka
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violating the Espionage Act is a crime, numskull, and she's guilty of multiple counts.
If anyone is guilty of that it's Trump and his cronies
Both of yaāll need to provide evidence else youāre wasting your own time.
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violating the Espionage Act is a crime, numskull, and she's guilty of multiple counts.
If anyone is guilty of that it's Trump and his cronies
Ken Starr would beg to differ.
The problem is that when you make shit up about people, and then try to convict them of the stuff you made up, it never works.
Republicans have been making stuff up about the Clintons since before Bill was elected. CBS interviewed Gennifer Flowers before his first election. Then they get the taxpayers to fund an investigation going based on the rumours they started.
Ken Starr knew his job was to āget the Clintonsā, and he promised he would. Six years and $100 million dollars later he had a lie about a blow job. Puppyshit. A small steaming pile of it.
Trey Gowdy knew his job was to keep Hillary from getting elected. To drag her name through the mud for as long as possible in the run up to the election.
The Clintons have never been charged with corruption because theyāre not corrupt. There were no scandals during the Clinton Administration, just as there were no real scandals on the Obama Administration. There was just the stuff Republicans made up, like the IRS asking questions of right wing political groups requested non-profit status.
The same cannot be said of the Trump Administration.
Nope, nothing about it there ā> www. scopes.comTry Scopes
So? Mueller also has numerous convictions under his belt.Ken Starr would beg to differ.
The problem is that when you make shit up about people, and then try to convict them of the stuff you made up, it never works.
Republicans have been making stuff up about the Clintons since before Bill was elected. CBS interviewed Gennifer Flowers before his first election. Then they get the taxpayers to fund an investigation going based on the rumours they started.
Ken Starr knew his job was to āget the Clintonsā, and he promised he would. Six years and $100 million dollars later he had a lie about a blow job. Puppyshit. A small steaming pile of it.
Trey Gowdy knew his job was to keep Hillary from getting elected. To drag her name through the mud for as long as possible in the run up to the election.
The Clintons have never been charged with corruption because theyāre not corrupt. There were no scandals during the Clinton Administration, just as there were no real scandals on the Obama Administration. There was just the stuff Republicans made up, like the IRS asking questions of right wing political groups requested non-profit status.
The same cannot be said of the Trump Administration.
As for the Ken Starr investigation:
In addition to the Impeachment of President Clinton for felony perjury.
These are the results and convictions of the various investigations into President Clinton.
Whitewater
Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker - fraud felony convictions - 3 counts (Tucker resigned facing impeachment)
Jim McDougal - fraud and conspiracy felony convictions - 18 counts
Susan McDougal - felony - 4 counts (pardoned during Clinton's last minute pardongate payoffs)
William J. Marks Sr - conspiracy Stephen Smith - conspiracy
Larry Kuca - Fraud Neal Ainley - 2 misdemeanors for embezzlement
David Hale - guilty plea - conspiracy
Chris Wade - felony - Whitewater real-estate investor
John Haley - felony 1998 on fraud
Robert Palmer - felony for conspiracy
Charles Matthews - guilty plea for bribery
Eugene Fitzhugh - Whitewater - bribery
Webster Hubbell - #2 ranking Justice Dept. Official - felony for embezzlement and fraud
John Latham - CEO of Madison Bank - bank fraud Campaign Finance:
Johnny Chung - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China
Gene Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC
Nora Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC
Howard Glicken - guilty plea - 2 midemeanors - funneling foreign donations
Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie - guilty plea - illegal Clinton campaign donations
John Huang - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China
Paula Jonesgate:
William Jefferson Clinton - found guilty - civil contempt of court - lying under oath about material facts. The Office of the Independent Council further presented Clinton with an agreement that had him disbarred from practicing law for 5 years and made him signed a statement admitting to his deception
Post Administration
Sandy Bergergate
Sandy Berger ā Clinton National Security Adviser -- found guilty of stealing highly class documents from the National Archive and destroying them.
The crazed poster who referenced snopes claimed Obama āsoldā kids to human traffickers.Nope, nothing about it there ā> www. scopes.comTry Scopes
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/
Snopes says TRUE
At the time he was elected, I said Trump should have fired EVERY SINGLE ******* FEDERAL EMPLOYEE HIRED OR PROMOTED BY OBAMA.
He needs to fire Sessions and throw him the **** out of the country along with Mueller and Rosenstein. They staged a coup against him, he HAS to move against them one and all.
Fortunately mob rule doesnāt prevail in this country. You have investigating Clinton for ages and have yet to find anything criminal. That is the real witch-hunt.This is an interesting article. I hope Trump takes the man's advice:
Years ago, I agreed to represent a client who wanted to bring a lawsuit against a particular department of the federal government.
Since the opposing counsel would be the U.S. Department of Justice, and with my being new to that game, I enlisted as co-counsel an accomplished federal litigator with extensive experience in dealing with the DOJ.
At one of our first meetings, I asked him, āWhat do you think are our odds of beating the DOJ?ā I will never forget his response.
With a silent smile, he slowly nodded, looked down and scribbled something on a sheet of paper before handing it to me.
The text of his properly signed and dated memorandum to me contained only two words:
āYouāre f--ked.ā
Now, nearly 20 years later, that is the exact memo ā or warning ā I want to send to President Trump.
That is ⦠unless he demonstrates soon a willingness to exercise his constitutionally delegated powers to terminate and remove the partisan factions within his Department of Justice that are either failing to use, or are intentionally misusing, their authority to unlawfully destroy his Presidency.
If he does not, I believe the abbreviated ineloquence of my former colleagueās memo could likely convey an accurate forecast of his fate.
The DOJ is an institution vested with formidable resources, including its authority over the FBI.
It is also often the beneficiary of a thinly veiled, yet presumed, allegiance with most of the federal courts in which its attorneys operate.
As a result, and given enough time, in most cases, the DOJ is empowered ā via favorable rulings and otherwise ā to access, manipulate and maneuver the federal laws, rules, regulations and procedures ā not to mention witness testimony ā in whatever ways it may deem necessary to ultimately bring most of those it targets to heel ⦠perhaps, even including a President.
Unconstrained, those with such potentially unlimited power could easily go rogue and morph into a government unto to themselves.
Theoretically, however, that should not be possible. The Constitution empowers the people to elect a President to whom they give their proxy to keep it in check.
Yet, today we are witnessing this chain of authority being turned on its head and a President who seems ā on the surface, anyway ā to be doing little with the powers of his office to put it right.
In the course of Sessionsā apparent hibernation subsequent to his recusal, a good portion of his responsibility as a member of the Presidentās Cabinet to run the DOJ appears to have been handed off to his unlawfully conflicted Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, who, in turn, has unlawfully delegated unfettered authority to an unlawfully conflicted Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, to prosecute any crime he sees fit and who, in turn, has unlawfully abused that unfettered authority to unlawfully establish what is an unlawfully conflicted ā not to mention unconstitutional ā shadow Department of Justice.
Distilled to its essence ā it is a creation of the corrupt ā controlled by the corrupt ā to protect the corrupt ā by empowering the corrupt ā to achieve but one corrupt purpose:
To stalk all allies, friends, relatives and associates of this nationās duly elected President in the hope of removing that President from office before his Administration is able to fully discover, expose and prosecute the many felonies the corrupt have committed.
Attacking Clinton isn't going to save Trump
They did not sell, they gave them away.
Ahh, āsnopes.ā I thought you meant scopes.Nope, nothing about it there ā> www. scopes.comTry Scopes
The Obama administration placed immigrant children with human traffickers.
RATING
TRUE
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/
Snopes is a joke.
Every person who ever ran for president planned on being president dunce.Hillary Clinton told everyone on Earth she was going to be President... she even hired the hall to hold the celebration party...
The voters left her standing at the altar in a million dollar wedding gown...
The longer she has to live with that, the better I like it.
Why else run? Duh!
I donāt believe sheāll ever be convicted. That chance started and ended w Comey. She is above the law.
And for those of you who somehow believe she hasnāt committed a crime, one of the most obvious is perjury, which should be easy for the most daft among you to verify.
What does mob rule have to do with vanquishing the deep state?Fortunately mob rule doesnāt prevail in this country. You have investigating Clinton for ages and have yet to find anything criminal. That is the real witch-hunt.This is an interesting article. I hope Trump takes the man's advice:
Years ago, I agreed to represent a client who wanted to bring a lawsuit against a particular department of the federal government.
Since the opposing counsel would be the U.S. Department of Justice, and with my being new to that game, I enlisted as co-counsel an accomplished federal litigator with extensive experience in dealing with the DOJ.
At one of our first meetings, I asked him, āWhat do you think are our odds of beating the DOJ?ā I will never forget his response.
With a silent smile, he slowly nodded, looked down and scribbled something on a sheet of paper before handing it to me.
The text of his properly signed and dated memorandum to me contained only two words:
āYouāre f--ked.ā
Now, nearly 20 years later, that is the exact memo ā or warning ā I want to send to President Trump.
That is ⦠unless he demonstrates soon a willingness to exercise his constitutionally delegated powers to terminate and remove the partisan factions within his Department of Justice that are either failing to use, or are intentionally misusing, their authority to unlawfully destroy his Presidency.
If he does not, I believe the abbreviated ineloquence of my former colleagueās memo could likely convey an accurate forecast of his fate.
The DOJ is an institution vested with formidable resources, including its authority over the FBI.
It is also often the beneficiary of a thinly veiled, yet presumed, allegiance with most of the federal courts in which its attorneys operate.
As a result, and given enough time, in most cases, the DOJ is empowered ā via favorable rulings and otherwise ā to access, manipulate and maneuver the federal laws, rules, regulations and procedures ā not to mention witness testimony ā in whatever ways it may deem necessary to ultimately bring most of those it targets to heel ⦠perhaps, even including a President.
Unconstrained, those with such potentially unlimited power could easily go rogue and morph into a government unto to themselves.
Theoretically, however, that should not be possible. The Constitution empowers the people to elect a President to whom they give their proxy to keep it in check.
Yet, today we are witnessing this chain of authority being turned on its head and a President who seems ā on the surface, anyway ā to be doing little with the powers of his office to put it right.
In the course of Sessionsā apparent hibernation subsequent to his recusal, a good portion of his responsibility as a member of the Presidentās Cabinet to run the DOJ appears to have been handed off to his unlawfully conflicted Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, who, in turn, has unlawfully delegated unfettered authority to an unlawfully conflicted Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, to prosecute any crime he sees fit and who, in turn, has unlawfully abused that unfettered authority to unlawfully establish what is an unlawfully conflicted ā not to mention unconstitutional ā shadow Department of Justice.
Distilled to its essence ā it is a creation of the corrupt ā controlled by the corrupt ā to protect the corrupt ā by empowering the corrupt ā to achieve but one corrupt purpose:
To stalk all allies, friends, relatives and associates of this nationās duly elected President in the hope of removing that President from office before his Administration is able to fully discover, expose and prosecute the many felonies the corrupt have committed.
Ah... vanquishing the mythical Deep State...sounds like a Holy Grail sort of endeavor...What does mob rule have to do with vanquishing the deep state?Fortunately mob rule doesnāt prevail in this country. You have investigating Clinton for ages and have yet to find anything criminal. That is the real witch-hunt.This is an interesting article. I hope Trump takes the man's advice:
Years ago, I agreed to represent a client who wanted to bring a lawsuit against a particular department of the federal government.
Since the opposing counsel would be the U.S. Department of Justice, and with my being new to that game, I enlisted as co-counsel an accomplished federal litigator with extensive experience in dealing with the DOJ.
At one of our first meetings, I asked him, āWhat do you think are our odds of beating the DOJ?ā I will never forget his response.
With a silent smile, he slowly nodded, looked down and scribbled something on a sheet of paper before handing it to me.
The text of his properly signed and dated memorandum to me contained only two words:
āYouāre f--ked.ā
Now, nearly 20 years later, that is the exact memo ā or warning ā I want to send to President Trump.
That is ⦠unless he demonstrates soon a willingness to exercise his constitutionally delegated powers to terminate and remove the partisan factions within his Department of Justice that are either failing to use, or are intentionally misusing, their authority to unlawfully destroy his Presidency.
If he does not, I believe the abbreviated ineloquence of my former colleagueās memo could likely convey an accurate forecast of his fate.
The DOJ is an institution vested with formidable resources, including its authority over the FBI.
It is also often the beneficiary of a thinly veiled, yet presumed, allegiance with most of the federal courts in which its attorneys operate.
As a result, and given enough time, in most cases, the DOJ is empowered ā via favorable rulings and otherwise ā to access, manipulate and maneuver the federal laws, rules, regulations and procedures ā not to mention witness testimony ā in whatever ways it may deem necessary to ultimately bring most of those it targets to heel ⦠perhaps, even including a President.
Unconstrained, those with such potentially unlimited power could easily go rogue and morph into a government unto to themselves.
Theoretically, however, that should not be possible. The Constitution empowers the people to elect a President to whom they give their proxy to keep it in check.
Yet, today we are witnessing this chain of authority being turned on its head and a President who seems ā on the surface, anyway ā to be doing little with the powers of his office to put it right.
In the course of Sessionsā apparent hibernation subsequent to his recusal, a good portion of his responsibility as a member of the Presidentās Cabinet to run the DOJ appears to have been handed off to his unlawfully conflicted Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, who, in turn, has unlawfully delegated unfettered authority to an unlawfully conflicted Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, to prosecute any crime he sees fit and who, in turn, has unlawfully abused that unfettered authority to unlawfully establish what is an unlawfully conflicted ā not to mention unconstitutional ā shadow Department of Justice.
Distilled to its essence ā it is a creation of the corrupt ā controlled by the corrupt ā to protect the corrupt ā by empowering the corrupt ā to achieve but one corrupt purpose:
To stalk all allies, friends, relatives and associates of this nationās duly elected President in the hope of removing that President from office before his Administration is able to fully discover, expose and prosecute the many felonies the corrupt have committed.
Yup...one our great conspiracy theories...the Body Count!I donāt believe sheāll ever be convicted. That chance started and ended w Comey. She is above the law.
And for those of you who somehow believe she hasnāt committed a crime, one of the most obvious is perjury, which should be easy for the most daft among you to verify.
We should also keep in mind the number of people who were potential witnesses against the Clintons who were murdered.
So?Ahh, āsnopes.ā I thought you meant scopes.Nope, nothing about it there ā> www. scopes.com
The Obama administration placed immigrant children with human traffickers.
RATING
TRUE
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/
Snopes is a joke.
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You would have to be pretty stupid to think such a thing. Or ugly stupid.Hillary has committed numerous crimes that can put her away for the rest of her life.You canāt lock her up for conspiracies.
You can only lock her up for doing things like violating the Constitution or obstructing justice or well you know things Trump does.
Republicans have had unlimited taxpayer money for decades and they used every cent they could investigating Hillary. There are only a couple of possible outcomes:
1. Hillary is the most vetted woman in America and Republicans couldn't find a single thing.
2. Hillary is the smartest woman in America and despite all the evidence, she fooled Republicans into thinking they found nothing.
3. Republicans are the most inept people in America not being able to do anything to a guilty woman.
4. Republicans are monsters attacking an innocent woman for decades and attacking her family.
I go with number four.
If there is a deep state, it does not contain members of both parties. It simply could not, and function. So tell me, when the GOP was investigating Hillary, who did they rely on to gather the evidence against her?
Mark
Ken Starr. He bullied Anita Broaddrick into changing her story and accusing Bill Clinton of rape, with a guaranteed perjury charge and possible jail time if she refused to recant her Affidavit in the Jones Trial which said he never raped her, but the statute of limitations had run out on any rape charge. Broaddrick had changed her story twice since that night so reasonable doubt is her Affidavit, which was given without duress.
If the FBI was in the tank for Hillary, they sure didnāt show it. Everybody in America knew they were investigating Clinton. Nobody knew Trump was similarly under investigation because so many top Trump advisors and Trump himself, has so many ties with Russia.
More and more, what happened in 2013 when Trump went to Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant and the Rusdians got a good up close look at what a tool he is and how useful he could be, they worked out this elaborate campaign strategy.
The first round of Mueller indictments of Russians centred around those who created the infrastructure they used to mask their identities and plant their propaganda. The second round of indictments was Trumpās staffers who were involved with the hacking and conspiracies except Roger Stone and Junior.
Stone has publically admitted to coordinating with both Gucifer and WikiLeaks and being in regular contact with them. When this stuff became public Trump stopped saying āno collusionā and switched to ācollusion isnāt illegalā and āI knew nothing about thisā.
Weissekberg, the accountant, reimbursed Michael Cohen $50,000 in cash for a campatechnical mattersā from the Trump Corporation Trust
Except the server WASNāT ILLEGAL, nor was her possession of the material on it.
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Why then was it concealed, hidden from the government and contained top secret, classified material?
It was neither concealed nor hidden from the government. Everyone in government had her email address hrod17@clintonemail.com. Does that look like a government email address to you?
So anyone who sent her an email was very aware that she was using a private server.
It was NEVER an issue when both of Wās Secretaries of State used private email. W had a private server in the White House. Itās not an issue now that Trump has installed a private server in the White House either.
The ONLY time use of a private server by members of any administration has been an issue, is when Hillary did it.
And no there was no top secret or sensitive information on her email but thatās because nobody sends truly sensitive information on such an insecure communications device as email.
The whole Clinton email Investigation was part of the overall witch hunt against the Clintons which yielded nothing. And in which the FBI knew it was being used for political purposes but such was their hatred of Clinton, Comey played right into it.