Medicare For All Fastest way to capitalism?

[Freiheit]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
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I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
.

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower

Threatening to steal our pharma IP does get them a discount.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Huh? Republicans didn't repeal ACA because of liberals??? That's exactly as stupid as liberals blaming ACA on the Republicans.

if capitalism had a good name Republicans would have switched to capitalist health care to reduce prices 80%

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
.

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

you need a link to show Europe pays 30-40% of what we do for health care???

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
.

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

you need a link to show Europe pays 30-40% of what we do for health care???

You don't have one?

 

[Freiheit]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
.

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

you need a link to show Europe pays 30-40% of what we do for health care???

You don't have one?

Yes if you have no proof of your allegations they must be viewed as figments of a fevered imagination.

 

[Freiheit]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
.

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

you need a link to show Europe pays 30-40% of what we do for health care???

If you must ask you have no clue, get back under your rock.

 

[JoeB131]

There isn't but one member of the House that represents me. It's the one from my district. The one from yours doesn't represent me nor does that person care about me. I do see you support a concept when you like the results and oppose it when you don't.

But you see, that's the problem... they shouldn't be drawing districts to disenfranchise people... I'm sorry you don't get that. If we had the house represent the country as it looks, we'd have 130 minority Congressmen. We don't. Even with the record number, it's only 95.

If you think someone should get something they can't afford, pay their bill yourself. YOU claim they deserve it.

Um, that's the problem, STUPID. They've already paid for insurance... and the insurance companies cheat them. They are paying taxes, and often don't qualify for medicaid or medicare. Time to stop this nonsense of making health care a lottery. Universal health care as a right.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.

Nope, socialism is pooling of resources. They had socialism in the Israeli Kibbutzes, and it worked just fine for them.

So one more time, your insurance company is socialist. Sorry It just is. The only difference is that Ed Hanaway (Evil **********) lives a lot better than any Soviet Commissar would ever dream of living.

 

[JoeB131]

They didn't repeal it because evil and stupid liberals have given capitalism a bad name, especially as it relates to health care.

Um, no, evil and stupid Insurance companies have given capitalism a bad name.

You haven't lived until you've tried to get an insurance company to pay for an "elective" procedure they don't want to pay for.

 

[JoeB131]

That's because socialism and doing things cooperatively aren't the same thing. I believe that if you want to help someone, that should be your choice not the the government's place to force it. I also believe that if you claim to care for someone that doesn't have (fill in the blank),. it should be on that person or persons to fund it themselves. I find that bleeding heart Liberals think claiming to care is the same as actually having done something. More than once they've responded to that concept with "I can't afford to do it myself". To them I say, STFU demanding others do something if you can't do it yourself.

You can say that, but once the majority us vote for it, you can STFU.

Eventually, we'll be in the majority, no matter how many tricks with the EC and Gerrymandering you clowns pull.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There isn't but one member of the House that represents me. It's the one from my district. The one from yours doesn't represent me nor does that person care about me. I do see you support a concept when you like the results and oppose it when you don't.

But you see, that's the problem... they shouldn't be drawing districts to disenfranchise people... I'm sorry you don't get that. If we had the house represent the country as it looks, we'd have 130 minority Congressmen. We don't. Even with the record number, it's only 95.

If you think someone should get something they can't afford, pay their bill yourself. YOU claim they deserve it.

Um, that's the problem, STUPID. They've already paid for insurance... and the insurance companies cheat them. They are paying taxes, and often don't qualify for medicaid or medicare. Time to stop this nonsense of making health care a lottery. Universal health care as a right.

If we had the house represent the country as it looks, we'd have 130 minority Congressmen.

Bullshit. We don't elect our Congressmen at-large.

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit. We don't elect our Congressmen at-large.

No, we gerrymander the districts so badly that only about 50 of them in play at any given time...

That's actually, kind of worse..

You conservatives whine all day about unresponsive government, but if they never had to worry about losing their jobs, they are pretty much going to keep doing what they are doing.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bullshit. We don't elect our Congressmen at-large.

No, we gerrymander the districts so badly that only about 50 of them in play at any given time...

That's actually, kind of worse..

You conservatives whine all day about unresponsive government, but if they never had to worry about losing their jobs, they are pretty much going to keep doing what they are doing.

And how many of those gerrymandered districts were demanded by liberals to create majority-minority districts to guarantee minority reps?

 

[dblack]

Nope. Socialism is imposed by government. Try again.

Nope, socialism is pooling of resources. They had socialism in the Israeli Kibbutzes, and it worked just fine for them.

Well, play whatever equivocation games you like - it makes your argument about as meaningful as daniel's koans.

So one more time, your insurance company is socialist. Sorry It just is. The only difference is that Ed Hanaway (Evil **********) lives a lot better than any Soviet Commissar would ever dream of living.

The difference is the Soviet Commissar is authorized to imprison or kill you if you don't obey. Insurance companies are not. Your inability to grasp this undermines your entire position.

 

[JoeB131]

And how many of those gerrymandered districts were demanded by liberals to create majority-minority districts to guarantee minority reps?

Not enough, given that we don't have 30% of the House being minority.

 

[JoeB131]

The difference is the Soviet Commissar is authorized to imprison or kill you if you don't obey. Insurance companies are not. Your inability to grasp this undermines your entire position.

I think there is a young lady named Nataline Sarkisyan who would disagree that the insurance companies can't kill you.

 

[dblack]

The difference is the Soviet Commissar is authorized to imprison or kill you if you don't obey. Insurance companies are not. Your inability to grasp this undermines your entire position.

I think there is a young lady named Nataline Sarkisyan who would disagree that the insurance companies can't kill you.

Are you really too dumb to recognize the difference?? I don't know what you're referring to above, but insurance companies are not legally authorized to employ violence. Governments are. Trying to pretend otherwise is just as blind and foolish as the delusions of the Trumpsters.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
.

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

you need a link to show Europe pays 30-40% of what we do for health care???

If you must ask you have no clue, get back under your rock.

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[EdwardBaiamonte]

That's because socialism and doing things cooperatively aren't the same thing. I believe that if you want to help someone, that should be your choice not the the government's place to force it. I also believe that if you claim to care for someone that doesn't have (fill in the blank),. it should be on that person or persons to fund it themselves. I find that bleeding heart Liberals think claiming to care is the same as actually having done something. More than once they've responded to that concept with "I can't afford to do it myself". To them I say, STFU demanding others do something if you can't do it yourself.

You can say that, but once the majority us vote for it, you can STFU.

Eventually, we'll be in the majority, no matter how many tricks with the EC and Gerrymandering you clowns pull.

oh good then we can switch to socialism like Europe did and see or standard of living cut in half.