Medicare For All Fastest way to capitalism?

[Freiheit]

Give me some examples where a government takeover dropped prices 70%.
.

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

you need a link to show Europe pays 30-40% of what we do for health care???

If you must ask you have no clue, get back under your rock.

U.S. Health Care Spending Is Double That of Other Countries | Time

time.com › Health › Health Care
Mar 13, 2018 - They found that spending in the U.S. far outpaces that in other nations. Health careaccounts for almost 18% of the U.S.'s GDP, compared to ...

Your link does not support your claims did you read it?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I just did Europe has prices 70%
of ours

Provide links my research does not indicate 70% overall lower prices in Europe while it does indicate some lower prices. Drug prices do appear to be significantly lower,

you need a link to show Europe pays 30-40% of what we do for health care???

If you must ask you have no clue, get back under your rock.

U.S. Health Care Spending Is Double That of Other Countries | Time

time.com › Health › Health Care
Mar 13, 2018 - They found that spending in the U.S. far outpaces that in other nations. Health careaccounts for almost 18% of the U.S.'s GDP, compared to ...

Your link does not support your claims did you read it?

The United States spends much more money onhealthcare than Canada, on both a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP. In 2006, per-capita spending forhealth care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S.,US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on healthcare in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.
Comparison of the healthcare systems in Canada and the United ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Comparison_of_the_healthcare_systems_in_Canada_and_the..

 

[JoeB131]

Are you really too dumb to recognize the difference?? I don't know what you're referring to above, but insurance companies are not legally authorized to employ violence. Governments are. Trying to pretend otherwise is just as blind and foolish as the delusions of the Trumpsters.

again, dead by a bullet from a government you vote for, dead by corporate bureaucracy that is answerable to no one.... you are still just as dead.

oh good then we can switch to socialism like Europe did and see or standard of living cut in half.

Another white trash American who has never been to Europe.

 

[dblack]

Are you really too dumb to recognize the difference?? I don't know what you're referring to above, but insurance companies are not legally authorized to employ violence. Governments are. Trying to pretend otherwise is just as blind and foolish as the delusions of the Trumpsters.

again, dead by a bullet from a government you vote for, dead by corporate bureaucracy that is answerable to no one.... you are still just as dead.

Death by paperwork, eh? If corporations are killing people, prosecute those responsible and put them in jail. They aren't authorized to do that. Government is. Equating the two is idiotic.

 

[JoeB131]

Death by paperwork, eh? If corporations are killing people, prosecute those responsible and put them in jail. They aren't authorized to do that. Government is. Equating the two is idiotic.

Again, the naivette of libertarians is always a wonder to behold.

We don't prosecute rich people in this country, where have you been?

 

[dblack]

We don't prosecute rich people in this country, where have you been?

Not enough, that's for sure. So what? Let's just fix it. What does that have to do with socialism?

 

[JoeB131]

Not enough, that's for sure. So what? Let's just fix it. What does that have to do with socialism?

The fact when you have runaway capitalism, you have the situation where the rich have their own set of rules.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Another white trash American who has never been to Europe.

just got back!!. huge rioting all over France- despite libcommie govt collecting 43% of GDP in taxes, 27% for USA) because the poor and middle class can't make ends meet. Ffance has average income of Arkansas, about our poorest state. see why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The fact when you have runaway capitalism, you have the situation where the rich have their own set of rules.

The rule under capitalism is you have the best product in the world to raise your customers standard of living at the fastest possible rate or you go bankrupt. Socialism has no such rule. Ever heard of East/West Germany or 132 other examples?? Slow???.

 

[JoeB131]

The rule under capitalism is you have the best product in the world to raise your customers standard of living at the fastest possible rate or you go bankrupt. Socialism has no such rule. Ever heard of East/West Germany or 132 other examples?? Slow???.

Okay, let's look at Germany. West Germany you had a country that was propped up by Billions from the US to rebuild, they had a system of socialized medicine and social programs going back to Bismarck. German unionization is 18% compared to 10% in the US, they have six weeks of paid vacation...

So Democratic Socialism... works just fine.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The rule under capitalism is you have the best product in the world to raise your customers standard of living at the fastest possible rate or you go bankrupt. Socialism has no such rule. Ever heard of East/West Germany or 132 other examples?? Slow???.

Okay, let's look at Germany. West Germany you had a country that was propped up by Billions from the US to rebuild, they had a system of socialized medicine and social programs going back to Bismarck. German unionization is 18% compared to 10% in the US, they have six weeks of paid vacation...

So Democratic Socialism... works just fine.

West Germany you had a country that was propped up by Billions from the US to rebuild,

East Germany you had a country that was propped up by Billions from the USSR to rebuild,

 

[JoeB131]

East Germany you had a country that was propped up by Billions from the USSR to rebuild,

Except the Russians did no such thing. IN fact, they looted Germany for everything they could, after they got done raping all the women in their zone.

 

[danielpalos]

Another white trash American who has never been to Europe.

just got back!!. huge rioting all over France- despite libcommie govt collecting 43% of GDP in taxes, 27% for USA) because the poor and middle class can't make ends meet. Ffance has average income of Arkansas, about our poorest state. see why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

no need to overtax the rich; simply raise the minimum wage.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

..

So Democratic Socialism... works just fine.

they have democratic socialism in Europe and live at 65% of our GDP. THe french are literally rioting in the streets because huge taxes have not helped. Obama was socialist and had worst economic record in US history with not one year of 3% growth.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

no need to overtax the rich; simply raise the minimum wage.

very dumb idea that would make it illegal to hire those not worth the minimum wage

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The fact when you have runaway capitalism, you have the situation where the rich have their own set of rules.

yep, the rule is, raise the standard of living at fastest possible rate or you go bankrupt. Socialism has no such concerns which is why they just killed 120 million!

 

[danielpalos]

no need to overtax the rich; simply raise the minimum wage.

very dumb idea that would make it illegal to hire those not worth the minimum wage

higher paid labor pays more in taxes and create more in demand.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

higher paid labor pays more in taxes and create more in demand.

so?? those unemployed by the minimum wage pay no taxes and require welfare. You're still making kindergarten arguments 5 years later

 

[danielpalos]

higher paid labor pays more in taxes and create more in demand.

so?? those unemployed by the minimum wage pay no taxes and require welfare. You're still making kindergarten arguments 5 years later

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment, still solves that simple economic engineering problem, five years later.

 

[JoeB131]

they have democratic socialism in Europe and live at 65% of our GDP. THe french are literally rioting in the streets because huge taxes have not helped. Obama was socialist and had worst economic record in US history with not one year of 3% growth.

Obama saved a bunch of big corporatoins, so he was doing a pretty shitty job as a socialist. A socialist nationalizes the corporations and sends the Execs to a re-education camp. Which frankly, is something I owuld have liked to have seen done after the 2008 recession.