Medicare and private insurance should not pay for unvaccinated who get Covid

[Stann]

The estimated toll of the pandemic if no one was vaccinated in Australia with just the original strain was 750,000. With all the newer variants it would have been much higher. And this pandemic is far from over.

 

[ninja007]

to the O.P.; ACTUALLY INSURANCES ARENT PAYING OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO GOT THE EXPERIMENTAL JAB AND DIED; IF THEY DID THEYD GO BANKRUPT.

 

[emilynghiem]

Question Elmer:

Should we pay for your heart attacks, blood clots, advanced cancers and auto-immune diseases from the vaccines?

The current understanding on IgG4 is a bomb--a terrible one.

For the record: I say yes, of course. We pay for healthcare for the stupidity of people all the time

Dear SweetSue92 and elmer

Again This is WHY health care decisions on policy which are relative should be kept democratic to the people and or states to establish agreed terms and conditions per population represented.

Nobody should have to pay for insurance or medical plans that violate their beliefs or don't provide coverage they believe in paying for.

By separating health care coverage and social benefits by party, that's enough numbers to organize the resources to provide universal care and still allow freedom of choice to citizens of different belief so these groups do not infringe on or disparage each other's equal rights to their own respective beliefs and creeds about health care, govt and economic ideology.

 

[emilynghiem]

And only here in America do we keep paying double or more for sub-standard health care because we don't have comprehensive health care.

^ the nonprofit Cooperative system does such a better job providing health coverage at Medicare prices without deductibles, the federal govt has given ACO contracts to manage that way and saved thousands of tax dollars while the nonprofit helps patients and physician providers generate millions of dollars to invest in more hospitals and clinics built using money saved and generated in the Black instead of relying on taxes to go into the Red.

And only here in America do we keep paying double or more for sub-standard health care because we don't have comprehensive health care.

By the Code of Ethics for Govt Service (posted at www.ethics-commission.net) we could all agree to hold Govt to the most cost effective means of providing "universal managed care at cost" using medical associations and nonprofit cooperatives that Constitutionally protect peoples different beliefs and party creeds from violating each other's.

 

[Stann]

Dear SweetSue92 and elmer

Again This is WHY health care decisions on policy which are relative should be kept democratic to the people and or states to establish agreed terms and conditions per population represented.

Nobody should have to pay for insurance or medical plans that violate their beliefs or don't provide coverage they believe in paying for.

By separating health care coverage and social benefits by party, that's enough numbers to organize the resources to provide universal care and still allow freedom of choice to citizens of different belief so these groups do not infringe on or disparage each other's equal rights to their own respective beliefs and creeds about health care, govt and economic ideology.

Our healthcare systems are pathetic at best, your suggestion would make them even less effective.

 

[emilynghiem]

to the O.P.; ACTUALLY INSURANCES ARENT PAYING OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO GOT THE EXPERIMENTAL JAB AND DIED; IF THEY DID THEYD GO BANKRUPT.

^ Normally for Companies to require conditions on their employees, they would be liable for any adverse conditions for forcing this as a requirement. If you require people to work in a construction zone, then if the equipment they are required to use causes damages, the company is liable. Including govt as an employer, similar to the lawsuit over Veterans using faulty PPE the govt provided which caused hearing loss.

Legally the people can sue and require legal and financial liability on behalf of any entities requiring the vaccinations

And likewise, the taxpayers who don't want to pay for health care for unvaccinated or unboostered citizens can sue to separate policies and provisions and only pay and cover members who agree to the same terms

 

[Flopper]

Dear SweetSue92 and elmer

Again This is WHY health care decisions on policy which are relative should be kept democratic to the people and or states to establish agreed terms and conditions per population represented.

Nobody should have to pay for insurance or medical plans that violate their beliefs or don't provide coverage they believe in paying for.

By separating health care coverage and social benefits by party, that's enough numbers to organize the resources to provide universal care and still allow freedom of choice to citizens of different belief so these groups do not infringe on or disparage each other's equal rights to their own respective beliefs and creeds about health care, govt and economic ideology.

You can not build a workable healthcare system based personal beliefs because our beliefs vary a lot. Christian Scientists view illness and disease as a mental problem not a physical problem. Support for LBGTQ in healthcare varies throughout population, and one end of the political spectrum people believes in the need for government free comprehensive healthcare and on the other end of the political spectrum people believe the cost of healthcare should be mostly paid for by the individual.

There is another problem in having a healthcare system tuned to everyone's personal beliefs. A large percent of our illnesses are caused by communicable disease so when one group refuses to to follow preventive measures because they don't believe in them, it effects us all.

 

[Flopper]

You can not build a workable healthcare system based personal beliefs because our beliefs vary a lot. Christian Scientists view illness and disease as a mental problem not a physical problem. Support for LBGTQ in healthcare varies throughout population At one end of the political spectrum, many people believe in the need for government free comprehensive healthcare and on the other end of the political spectrum many people believe the cost of individual healthcare should be mostly paid for by the individual.

There is another problem in having a healthcare system allowing for everyone's personal beliefs. A large percent of our illnesses are caused by communicable diseases so when one group refuses to follow preventive measures because they don't believe in them, it effects us all.

 

[Stann]

Bad human emotions like greed and resentment should have no place in health care decisions. Eventually it would exclude everyone and help no one. I don't like the idea of free rides or welfare, but I put the needs of everyone ( even those I resent ) above my personal desires.