McConnell is being urged by Republicans to vote to convict in Impeachment trial

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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
Republicans serving their last term like McConnell is?
last term? Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, McConnell,
2022 mid-terms, the House goes GOP, 2024 Kamala loses.
 

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The Georgia method is supposed to be the most democratic. If you don't have majority support, they keep holding elections until somebody does.
Also known as a "jungle primary", followed by a runoff if no one gets >50%.
Point being you should only run one fucking candidate, not two.
What do you have against democracy? Just look at the presidential primaries, where you have a dozen or more people running, until somebody gets 50%.

What do you have against true democratic elections?
 

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Impeach him or not, Trump is going to have an impact on 2024 and there has already been great damage done to the way citizens view the political class. Just his endorsement will send millions to vote one direction or another. He doesn't need to run again.

If GOP vote to impeach him, they will get hit with 100% of the endorsements that Trump gives, if they don't vote to impeach him, they will share the political impact with the Dems by ensuring that those who DIDN'T vote to impeach him, maintain or expand their votes, which, has an impact in their elections against Dems. A vote by a GOP against him is political loss, only Sandbaggers like Romney will be safe. Utah and Alaska are safe. Unless Primaried, of course...

Nobody is buying that 75M who voterd for Trump are going to be more giddy to support the Old, rotting, tired, out-of-touch Establishment over American First policies. Even with all the purging and Big Tech silencing, go onto Twitter or read youtube comments, and it's clear that Trump has opened the eyes to a broad swath of citizens of all ages. They may not always agree with him as the Messenger (I know I've disliked his vitriol often), but they need his message. It's why Pompeo could be a major force in 2024.

I think the Approval Rating of congress was something in the area of 13%. That should tell you about how citizens view the leaders in your government. GOP voters will NOT support those who don't fight for them. It's a guarantee. They are tired of being treated like the inner city voters who just blindly vote Dem.

Just because a few legacy institutions in the Bubbles of D.C dislike Trump, doesn't mean he hasn't been a lightning rod for people to wake up and stand up for what is important to them. I've said this from the time the lightbulb in my head went on and I understood what Trump was trying to do in the Primaries. The West has to confront itself, before our enemies do.
 

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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
McConnell is exceedingly calculating, so no doubt he's playing this as carefully as possible. He has to weigh getting rid of Trump (which he understandably wants to do) with the damage it would cause his party.

He coddled this buffoon
for four years, putting party over country. Tough shit.
The question tiion is, amount rank and file TTrump supporters; following the insurrection, the pardons of the sleazy characters and cronies, Trump's abhorrent behavior, his mishandling of the pandemic, and his contemptible attitudes that appeal only to the worst of Americans, is this dwindling base of conspiracy nuts worth it?

What's the upside of worrying about such a gang of nuts?
Well, even if the fog lifted for half of them, what remained would still be enough to damage McConnell. The party is now completely out of control. If McConnell decides that, if he has nothing to lose, he may bite the bullet and nail Trump.

:popcorn:
 

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Impeach him or not, Trump is going to have an impact on 2024 and there has already been great damage done to the way citizens view the political class. Just his endorsement will send millions to vote one direction or another. He doesn't need to run again.
I beg to differ. The ability to run for office, means you have the ability to raise money for that political run. Take that away from Trump and he can't raise money except the old fashion way. By tricking people into giving to a charitable fund.
 

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The Georgia method is supposed to be the most democratic. If you don't have majority support, they keep holding elections until somebody does.
Also known as a "jungle primary", followed by a runoff if no one gets >50%.
Point being you should only run one fucking candidate, not two.
What do you have against democracy? Just look at the presidential primaries, where you have a dozen or more people running, until somebody gets 50%.

What do you have against true democratic elections?
The GOP primary should sort out who wins the GOP nomination.
That candidate should then run against the other candidates.
Its democracy with primaries.
 

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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
McConnel and any other Republican that vote guilty are toast.
Kiss their political lives good buy.. Remember there are still are 75 Million pissed off Trump Supporters
 

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If Trump is a political candidate, he can spend campaign money on ads for or against politicians. Take that away, and Trump would have to spend his own money, remember that vast fortune he claims he has, nudge nudge, wink wink, on ads.
 

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What do you have against democracy? Just look at the presidential primaries, where you have a dozen or more people running, until somebody gets 50%.

What do you have against true democratic elections?
The GOP primary should sort out who wins the GOP nomination.
That candidate should then run against the other candidates.
Its democracy with primaries.
So you object to the "jungle election" because the "jungle primary" didn't do its job.

That's a novel approach. Maybe you should get the republicans to abandon their democratic primary, in favor of ignoring what the people want, and just choosing who the political people think is the best candidate.
 

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McConnel and any other Republican that vote guilty are toast.
Kiss their political lives good buy.. Remember there are still are 75 Million pissed off Trump Supporters
I liken this to somebody in the electric chair telling the warden he'll come back to kill him if he pulls the switch.
 

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I think there’s a legitimate chance of getting 2/3 of the votes in the Senate.

Right now it sounds like McConnell is on board with Romney/Sasse/Toomey, etc. If McConnell gets on that wagon, and at this point I think he will, then he will open up a path for several others to follow. I think this could get close.

McConnell knows that the Republican Party needs to distance themselves from Trump for them to have a future. But the Trumpsters don’t see that.

This Republican implosion is hilariously fun to watch. :popcorn:
 

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I thought a conviction was an impossibility two weeks ago, but McConnell is PISSED about the Rump Riot. Now I think they just may get the 17 votes we need and the cherry on top will be a caveat to prevent his ever holding another elected office.

Of course, with the felony conviction he's sure to get for his campaign finance violation and other crimes may prevent another run anyway. He's cooked.
 

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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
McConnell is exceedingly calculating, so no doubt he's playing this as carefully as possible. He has to weigh getting rid of Trump (which he understandably wants to do) with the damage it would cause his party.

He coddled this buffoon
for four years, putting party over country. Tough shit.
The question tiion is, amount rank and file TTrump supporters; following the insurrection, the pardons of the sleazy characters and cronies, Trump's abhorrent behavior, his mishandling of the pandemic, and his contemptible attitudes that appeal only to the worst of Americans, is this dwindling base of conspiracy nuts worth it?

What's the upside of worrying about such a gang of nuts?
Well, even if the fog lifted for half of them, what remained would still be enough to damage McConnell. The party is now completely out of control. If McConnell decides that, if he has nothing to lose, he may bite the bullet and nail Trump.

:popcorn:
Gotta rip off the scab. He saw the GOP come back after Nixon. He knows history
 

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Impeach him or not, Trump is going to have an impact on 2024 and there has already been great damage done to the way citizens view the political class. Just his endorsement will send millions to vote one direction or another. He doesn't need to run again.
I beg to differ. The ability to run for office, means you have the ability to raise money for that political run. Take that away from Trump and he can't raise money except the old fashion way. By tricking people into giving to a charitable fund.
You aren’t getting 2/3 in the Senate.
 

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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
Moscow Mitch, more than most Republican politicians, understands the extremely short memory span of their rank-and-file RWNJ voting base.

If the Party rids itself of the "trump problem" by convicting him in the Senate now, there is a much better chance he will do time when convicted by the Manhattan D.A. on fraud charges. After all, there is an important reason the former a$$hole-in-chief has been fighting so hard to keep his tax records secret.

With the "trump problem" behind them, there are endless possibilities for future issues the Party can use to distract their rank-and-file RWNJ voting base. Using any one or all of these issues, the collective memory of the RWNJ voting base can be cleansed of "trump problem" before the COVID-19 pandemic is over. (The stubbornness of the RWNJs and their refusal to take the proper precautions will shrink their numbers considerably by that time, so the GOP might yet lose many, easily fooled members of its base.)

So, congressional Republicans, cheer up. With a few gutsy decisions now, you can have the Party firing on all eight corrupt cylinders again in no time.


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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
Moscow Mitch, more than most Republican politicians, understands the extremely short memory span of their rank-and-file RWNJ voting base.

If the Party rids itself of the "trump problem" by convicting him in the Senate now, there is a much better chance he will do time when convicted by the Manhattan D.A. on fraud charges. After all, there is an important reason the former a$$hole-in-chief has been fighting so hard to keep his tax records secret.

With the "trump problem" behind them, there are endless possibilities for future issues the Party can use to distract their rank-and-file RWNJ voting base. Using any one or all of these issues, the collective memory of the RWNJ voting base can be cleansed of "trump problem" before the COVID-19 pandemic is over. (The stubbornness of the RWNJs and their refusal to take the proper precautions will shrink their numbers considerably by that time, so the GOP might yet lose many, easily fooled members of its base.)

So, congressional Republicans, cheer up. With a few gutsy decisions now, you can have the Party firing on all eight corrupt cylinders again in no time.


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If the Senate convicts the Dear Leader, with help from the GOP members...that will nearly guarantee that the massive, orange moron will start his Patriot Party. But if they don't vote with the Dems to convict, they will be stuck with the idiot and his criminal family for years to come. It is a perplexing, yet critical decision.
 

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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
McConnel and any other Republican that vote guilty are toast.
Kiss their political lives good buy.. Remember there are still are 75 Million pissed off Trump Supporters
McConnell is never going to run for election again stupid
 
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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
McConnel and any other Republican that vote guilty are toast.
Kiss their political lives good buy.. Remember there are still are 75 Million pissed off Trump Supporters
McConnell is never going to run for election again stupid
He has nothing to lose. His only concern is the future of the GOP. He feels that the Liar in Chief should not be part of that future. If he does not vote to convict, he may be selling the soul of the Republican Party.
 

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The erection trial will just end up wasting tax payer money all for nothing. Just like the Trump Russia Hoax.
 

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The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it's now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.

"Mitch said to me he wants Trump gone," one Republican member of Congress told CNN. "It is in his political interest to have him gone. It is in the GOP interest to have him gone. The question is, do we get there?"


McConnell knows that the life of the Republican Party is on the line. Not only is the Dear Leader a cancer on this country, he is a cancer on the Republican Party. If the GOP really want to remain a viable political force in the US, they must cut the strings of trumpism once and for all. If McConnell does not lead the GOP member of the Senate with a vote of Guilty, they will all be sorry for years to come.
McConnel and any other Republican that vote guilty are toast.
Kiss their political lives good buy.. Remember there are still are 75 Million pissed off Trump Supporters
McConnell is never going to run for election again stupid
Why Pelosi and Feinstein are both older than him and Feinstein has already filed for re-election and she is 88
 

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