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[gipper]

Once again, if he said he would release those files, why has he changed his mind. There has to be some incrimination information there that he does not want released. If it is not about him, why is he holding back? He LOVES to punish people, even those that were loyal and were working with him before.

WHY, WHY, WHY is he not releasing them. He PROMISED he would do so.

That is the question everyone (including his own supporters) is asking.

Why don't you address and answer this question. You are certainly have been wordy enough in trying to deflect from answering that. As such, answer it and we can stop this farce!

If Don isn’t implicated, which seems unlikely considering is long history with Jeffrey. It could be many of his wealthy friends and donors are implicated and Israel may be behind the entire Epstein operation. This might explain his unwillingness at transparency.

 

[Couchpotato]

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with.

Houraney flew more than two dozen women to Mar-a-Lago, but he had a surprise when they arrived.

“I arranged to have some contestants fly in,” Houraney told the Times. “At the very first party, I said, ‘Who’s coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.’ It was him and Epstein.”

Houraney said he was surprised. “I said: ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with VIPs. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’”

It ended up being just Trump and Epstein.

Back then, Trump made no secret of the friendship.

I think it's safe to say they were pretty close friends.

Ok so again I'll ask. Did Trump just forget he was ******* all these underaged girls with Epstein when he said he would release the files of the investigation? Do you understand why it's kind of hard to believe that Trump had all these close ties to Epstein (who btw was a known pedophile when he ran the first time but no one seemed to bring that up in 2016) and then made an issue out of releasing those files where one didn't exist? If Trump on the campaign trail doesn't promise to release these files this isn't an issue. No one is talking about it. There's no risk of Trump pedo predilections coming out. Can we also agree that if Trump were palling around with and was actually a close friend of a known and convicted pedophile that it would have come up in 1 of the 3 Presidential campaigns he ran?

I guess it's possible that Trump "own goaled" this but at this point you'll need more proof then him not releasing the files because it doesn't pass the logical sniff test with what we currently know.

 

[Couchpotato]

If Don isn’t implicated, which seems unlikely considering is long history with Jeffrey. It could be many of his wealthy friends and donors are implicated and Israel may be behind the entire Epstein operation. This might explain his unwillingness at transparency.

Or it could be that the Government was involved in running this debacle.

 

[gipper]

Or it could be that the Government was involved in running this debacle.

Yes that too. No doubt the FBI and CIA were either directly involved or protecting the operation. They know exactly who the pedophiles are and who Epstein was working for.

 

[Couchpotato]

Yes that too. No doubt the FBI and CIA were either directly involved or protecting the operation. They know exactly who the pedophiles are and who Epstein was working for.

So why would you assume the reason these files arent being released is because of some ties to Trump or his friend vs that the CIA/FBI/US intelligence were involved with it?

 

[Couchpotato]

Once again, if he said he would release those files, why has he changed his mind. There has to be some incrimination information there that he does not want released. If it is not about him, why is he holding back? He LOVES to punish people, even those that were loyal and were working with him before.

Because of the involvement of the US government. What's more lilkely? Trump was unaware that he was ******* underaged women with Epstein or the that the US intelligence apparatus was running or allowing the running of a child sex trafficking ring to compromise powerful and influential people?

WHY, WHY, WHY is he not releasing them. He PROMISED he would do so.

See above.

That is the question everyone (including his own supporters) is asking.

See above.

Why don't you address and answer this question. You are certainly have been wordy enough in trying to deflect from answering that. As such, answer it and we can stop this farce!

It's not a deflection, and I have multiple times in this thread answered that question.


You want to believe Trump is involved in some nefarious way because you are a political hack. Therefore all logical reasoning is out the window.

The CIA killed a sitting US President. I dont think running an underaged sex ring is beneath them.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Ok so again I'll ask. Did Trump just forget he was ******* all these underaged girls with Epstein when he said he would release the files of the investigation? Do you understand why it's kind of hard to believe that Trump had all these close ties to Epstein (who btw was a known pedophile when he ran the first time but no one seemed to bring that up in 2016) and then made an issue out of releasing those files where one didn't exist? If Trump on the campaign trail doesn't promise to release these files this isn't an issue. No one is talking about it. There's no risk of Trump pedo predilections coming out. Can we also agree that if Trump were palling around with and was actually a close friend of a known and convicted pedophile that it would have come up in 1 of the 3 Presidential campaigns he ran?

I guess it's possible that Trump "own goaled" this but at this point you'll need more proof then him not releasing the files because it doesn't pass the logical sniff test with what we currently know.

You claimed that they weren't buds. How did you kick it with a guy for over 15yrs and not know what he is into? Trump said he would release the files; nobody forced him to say that.

 

[Couchpotato]

You claimed that they weren't buds. How did you kick it with a guy for over 15yrs and not know what he is into? Trump said he would release the files; nobody forced him to say that.

I think they likely ran in the same circles. There are only so many people in their financial class they all get invited the same parties. Again if Trump were "best friends" with a known pedophile it would have come up in 1 of the 3 Presidential campaigns. Because the DNC wasnt running op intel on Trump for the last decade? Come on man.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I think they likely ran in the same circles. There are only so many people in their financial class they all get invited the same parties. Again if Trump were "best friends" with a known pedophile it would have come up in 1 of the 3 Presidential campaigns. Because the DNC wasnt running op intel on Trump for the last decade? Come on man.

Dude the man brought young woman and the only folks who were there was Trump and Epstein, damn is your head that far up Trump's ass that you can't even deal in reality.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

It proves we’re ruled by a small cabal of psychopathic pedophiles. They’re becoming more obvious about it, as the empire self-destructs.

It shows that all the promises Trump made, with this, are all for naught.

 

[Lesh]

Because … meh… no big deal any more right?

 

[gipper]

So why would you assume the reason these files arent being released is because of some ties to Trump or his friend vs that the CIA/FBI/US intelligence were involved with it?

Lol.

Because it’s possible. I didn’t assume anything. Merely posting possibilities.

 

[Luckyone]

Because of the involvement of the US government. What's more lilkely? Trump was unaware that he was ******* underaged women with Epstein or the that the US intelligence apparatus was running or allowing the running of a child sex trafficking ring to compromise powerful and influential people?



See above.



See above.




It's not a deflection, and I have multiple times in this thread answered that question.


You want to believe Trump is involved in some nefarious way because you are a political hack. Therefore all logical reasoning is out the window.

The CIA killed a sitting US President. I dont think running an underaged sex ring is beneath them.

You are not answering or even addressing the question (you are deflecting from it).

Why has Trump now refusing to make the Epstein files public after he stated vociferously that he would do so.................before he knew what was in them?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You are not answering or even addressing the question (you are deflecting from it).

Why has Trump now refusing to make the Epstein files public after he stated vociferously that he would do so.................before he knew what was in them?

well for one the Judges in the case (all dem appointed) refuse to unseal them.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Or it could be that the Government was involved in running this debacle.

Jeffrey Epstein was a lifelong democrat and a generous democrat donor.

 

[leftwinger]

You are not answering or even addressing the question (you are deflecting from it).

Why has Trump now refusing to make the Epstein files public after he stated vociferously that he would do so.................before he knew what was in them?

Give it time lil' man. They released some files. If you opened them you would see it is a bunch of hand-written gibberish mostly redacted information per your Obiden Courts.

They are not going to let hookers or party girls name names of Elite Dignitaries, Congress or X-Presidents without iron-clad proof you dumb OX (exactly what when who how, bring your ID and Birth certificate). They would be sued off the planet.

That is why the Courts blacked it all out. "SHE says" is not proof. Need to know exact dates and times....customs logs, transport drivers statements, maids, other visitors statements.....need a long dragged out investigation.

There is no video. The FBI long ago burned it all up with any other incriminating evidence on big shots. Or there never was any? The only video admitted existing was by Local Law enforcement who installed cameras trying to catch suspected theft by the staff?

Try another way to "Get Trump". This one is simply annoying.

 

[Couchpotato]

Jeffrey Epstein was a lifelong democrat and a generous democrat donor.

So? Do you think there arent terrble people who are/were lifelong Republicans and Republican donor?

 

[Luckyone]

well for one the Judges in the case (all dem appointed) refuse to unseal them.

No, your post is not as you suggest.

The judge refused to release SOME of the files (the ones from 2006). Nonetheless, Trump already has many of the other files (there are thousands of them) and those are the ones that HE is refusing to release.

The grand jury transcripts requested by the Justice Department probably amount to just a small sliver of what the FBI has in its possession, according to Epner.

A federal judge in Florida already rejected the Justice Department's request for the release of grand jury transcripts from around 2006. Two separate requests for the grand jury transcripts that led to charges against Epstein and Maxwell in New York more than a decade later are still pending.

 

[Luckyone]

Give it time lil' man. They released some files. If you opened them you would see it is a bunch of hand-written gibberish mostly redacted information per your Obiden Courts.

They are not going to let hookers or party girls name names of Elite Dignitaries, Congress or X-Presidents without iron-clad proof you dumb OX (exactly what when who how, bring your ID and Birth certificate). They would be sued off the planet.

That is why the Courts blacked it all out. "SHE says" is not proof. Need to know exact dates and times....customs logs, transport drivers statements, maids, other visitors statements.....need a long dragged out investigation.

There is no video. The FBI long ago burned it all up with any other incriminating evidence on big shots. Or there never was any? The only video admitted existing was by Local Law enforcement who installed cameras trying to catch suspected theft by the staff?

Try another way to "Get Trump". This one is simply annoying.

Oh, c'mon! This is Trump that we are talking about, with the help of the Justice Department (Pam Bondi) totally in his favor (she does whatever Trump wants).

Trump does what he wants! when has any judge prevented him from doing so?

He promised to release the files and now it is him that is refusing to do so. No judge has prevented him from doing that. These are files that he already has in his hands.

 

[Couchpotato]

Dude the man brought young woman and the only folks who were there was Trump and Epstein, damn is your head that far up Trump's ass that you can't even deal in reality.

No Im no fan of Trump. I am also not a fan of the hyperbolic reactions to all things Trump.

Just to be clear. You believe that the DNC didn't figure out that Trump was best buddies with a known;/convicted pedophile through 3 Presidential campaigns. Also, you believe that Trump just forgot that he was ******* all these underaged girls with Epstein right before he announced he was going to release the files on the Epstein investigation that could at a minimum implicate Trump in being a pedophile, and at worst participating in it. Just slipped his mind. Also, you believe that a person who was sleeping with a bunch of underaged women with a convicted sex offender who was then subsequently indicted again while this person was President and had access to these files also just forgot to check to see if he was implicated? That he's only figuring this out now? Do I have that right?