Matthew 12:40

Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a discussion with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase x days and xnights was ever used in the first century or before when it absolutely didnt include at least parts of the x days and at least parts of the x nights?
According to the New Testament, Jesus was in the tomb for parts of three days (Friday, Saturday, and Sunday), fulfilling the "three days and three nights" prophecy through first-century Jewish timekeeping. While not 72 full hours, this period included the day of death, the full day of the Sabbath, and the morning of the resurrection.

Key Details on the Timeline:
  • Cultural Context: In first-century Jewish tradition, any part of a day was counted as a full day, and the night was considered part of the preceding day.
  • The Days: Jesus died on Friday afternoon (Day 1), remained in the tomb all day Saturday (Day 2), and rose Sunday morning (Day 3).
  • Prophecy Fulfillment: Although the traditional Friday-to-Sunday timeline represents roughly 36-38 hours, it is understood as fulfilling the "three days and three nights" mentioned in Matthew 12:40.
  • Alternative Views: Some interpretations argue for a Thursday or even Wednesday crucifixion to account for 72 literal hours, though the traditional Friday-Sunday timeline remains the most widely accepted.

The resurrection on the "third day" is consistently referenced in the Gospels and 1 Corinthians 15:4.
 
According to the New Testament, Jesus was in the tomb for parts of three days (Friday, Saturday, and Sunday), fulfilling the "three days and three nights" prophecy through first-century Jewish timekeeping. While not 72 full hours, this period included the day of death, the full day of the Sabbath, and the morning of the resurrection.

Key Details on the Timeline:
  • Cultural Context: In first-century Jewish tradition, any part of a day was counted as a full day, and the night was considered part of the preceding day.
  • The Days: Jesus died on Friday afternoon (Day 1), remained in the tomb all day Saturday (Day 2), and rose Sunday morning (Day 3).
  • Prophecy Fulfillment: Although the traditional Friday-to-Sunday timeline represents roughly 36-38 hours, it is understood as fulfilling the "three days and three nights" mentioned in Matthew 12:40.
  • Alternative Views: Some interpretations argue for a Thursday or even Wednesday crucifixion to account for 72 literal hours, though the traditional Friday-Sunday timeline remains the most widely accepted.

The resurrection on the "third day" is consistently referenced in the Gospels and 1 Corinthians 15:4.
Since your comments deal with issues for a different topic perhaps you could start a new one.
 
Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a discussion with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase x days and xnights was ever used in the first century or before when it absolutely didnt include at least parts of the x days and at least parts of the x nights?
Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Gen_1:5 God called the light “day”, and the darkness he called “night”. There was evening and there was morning, the first day.
Gen_1:8 God called the expanse “sky”. There was evening and there was morning, a second day.
Gen_1:13 There was evening and there was morning, a third day.
Gen_1:14 God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs to mark seasons, days, and years;
Gen_1:16 God made the two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He also made the stars.
Gen_1:18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. God saw that it was good.

Gen_8:22 While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night will not cease.”
Exo_32:6 They rose up early on the next day, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.

Exo_40:38 For the cloud of Yahweh was on the tabernacle by day, and there was fire in the cloud by night, in the sight of all the house of Israel, throughout all their journeys.

Lev_22:30 It shall be eaten on the same day; you shall leave none of it until the morning. I am Yahweh.

Num_11:32 The people rose up all that day, and all of that night, and all the next day, and gathered the quails. He who gathered least gathered ten homers; and they spread them all out for themselves around the camp.

Psa_121:6 The sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night.

Pro_7:9 in the twilight, in the evening of the day, in the middle of the night and in the darkness.
Ecc_8:16 When I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done on the earth (for also there is that neither day nor night sees sleep with his eyes),


Jhn_11:9 Jesus answered, “Aren’t there twelve hours of daylight? If a man walks in the day, he doesn’t stumble, because he sees the light of this world.

Rev_7:15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, they serve him day and night in his temple. He who sits on the throne will spread his tabernacle over them.

Rev_8:12 The fourth angel sounded, and one third of the sun was struck, and one third of the moon, and one third of the stars; so that one third of them would be darkened, and the day wouldn’t shine for one third of it, and the night in the same way.

Rev_12:10 I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation, the power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ has come; for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them before our God day and night.

Rev_14:11 The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. They have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

Rev_20:10 The devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet are also. They will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Rev_21:25 Its gates will in no way be shut by day (for there will be no night there),
 
Someone new looking in who thinks that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, and who tries to get around Matthew 12:40 by saying that it is using common Jewish idiomatic language, may know of some writing.
Rstrats,

Constantine's early Catholic church,.... Blasphemously came up with the "Good Friday to Easter Sunday Morning Resurrection".

They used that Satanicaly inspired teaching to change the Sabbath Day, to the First Day of the Week, & they also repackaged the Pagan, & Pornographic Feast day of Astarte, & named it Easter.

This Corruption of the Truth, has continued almost 2000 years, with the thousands of "Christian Sects" (The Breakaway Daughters of Catholicism), zealously still embracing it.
 
Why Jews should believe in Jesus.
There are 2,500 End Time prophesies in the Bible, and every one of the prophesies that you brought up is end time prophecy, and it started with God gathering the Jews back home.
Of the 2,500, 2,000 have already been fulfilled. There are 500 left before you see Jesus touch down on the Mount of Olives.

What Christ predicted in Revelation, is moving along like clock work. You can read it in the Bible, or watch it on the nightly news. It's understandable that you want to believe Jesus didn't exist, but Iran is coming for you. So is Russia and the enemies that surround you. <(prophesy) It isn't going to be pretty, but a remnant of you will survive, because your Messiah touches down on the Mount of Olives. And He's on your side. Nothing will prevail against Him, because of His love for you. You win WW3.
The House of Yudah/ or the "Jews", are largely in the land of Yisrael, with Millions still in many other nations.

Per many Scriptures,.... The House of Yisrael, has not yet returned there, nor has it RE-united with the "Jews", for that is an End Time Event, per many, many Scriptures.
 
The House of Yudah/ or the "Jews", are largely in the land of Yisrael, with Millions still in many other nations.

Per many Scriptures,.... The House of Yisrael, has not yet returned there, nor has it RE-united with the "Jews", for that is an End Time Event, per many, many Scriptures.
Truth, I don't know of one notable preacher that doesn't believe we are in the end times. Daniel predicted the exact day that Israel would become a nation, and God called the Jews home. That isn't an order to all pile into the little sliver of land they were given. It's having a home to go to. And against all odds, they reclaimed Jerusalem.
End time prophesy is being fulfilled at a rapid pace, and it isn't pretty...
 
And that's an issue for a different topic. Again, this one is concerned with one issue and only one issue, i.e., the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be.

If you want to discuss the meaning of the "heart of the earth" you need to start a new topic, and I don't mean within this one.

No it's not a different topic. Nobody is saying 'no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be'. Except you.

Any who believe the Bible and what Jesus said, believe the three days and three nights are accounted for in (Matt. 12:40), no matter how you or anyone else does the math.

Do you believe Jonah was three days and nights in the belly of the whale? Why?

Quantrill

Ok. (Matt. 12:40) is not the issue, as you say. So go ahead and clarify the issue.

No, you need to read what you said in post #(365). Seems you are saying a lot that you now want to say, 'you didn't say'.

Just what question would that be that I didn't answer?

Oh...now you admit you didn't answer my question. And now you must define 'believe' on your terms. Either way, by your own admission and definition, you don't believe Jonah was three days and nights in the belly of the whale.

So, if you don't believe Jonah was three days and nights in the belly of the whale, though (Jonah 1:17) clearly says so, why would you believe that Jesus was three days and nights in the 'heart of the earth'?

You're a typical atheist. You don't believe any of it. Yet you think you have found some formula to cast doubt upon the Bible. And as usual, all you did is show your a**.

You don't have a belief in what the Scripture says, because you're not a believer. What a revelation! No need to thank me.

It has everything to do with God, Christ, the Bible, and the Believer.

Quantrill

I can only repeat what I have said a number of times already. This topic is directed to anyone who thinks that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with a 1st day of the week resurrection, and thinks that the "heart of the earth" refers to the tomb, and tries to account for the lack of a third night, which would be the case with a 6th day crucifixion/1st day resurrection, by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period.

However, in order to legitimately assert that, one would have to know of other instances where the same usage was employed, i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be. I am simply asking for actual examples to support the idea of commonality.

rstrats

These are posts #(365), (366), (374), and (375)

Again, no one says that except you. You need to identify who is saying that. If no one says that, it's just a riddle of yours made to imply the answer you want, which is doubt about the Resurrection of Christ and the Bible.

Your asking for examples is not valid unless you provide someone who says that. Thus far, you're the only one who says that. You should be looking for them and not examples.

Your riddle is yours made for the answer you want.

Quantrill
 
rstrats

These are posts #(365), (366), (374), and (375)

Again, no one says that except you. You need to identify who is saying that. If no one says that, it's just a riddle of yours made to imply the answer you want, which is doubt about the Resurrection of Christ and the Bible.

Your asking for examples is not valid unless you provide someone who says that. Thus far, you're the only one who says that. You should be looking for them and not examples.

Your riddle is yours made for the answer you want.

Quantrill
Quantrill,.... I'm gonna suggest that You stay away from Sharp Objects, ..... You are so full of Hot Air, that when "pricked" ,...... You'd blow around like a deflating Hot Air Balloon, which if detected on radar, like recently in El Paso, the Pentagon would shoot You down.
 
Again, no one says that except you.
So far that has been true - no one visiting this topic has said that it was common usage. But that doesn't rule out that someone in the future might say it.
it's just a riddle of yours
How does it meet the definition of a riddle?

made to imply the answer you want, which is doubt about the Resurrection of Christ and the Bible.
And as I said previously, absolutely not! I would never do that. Please explain why that is your takeaway.
Your riddle is yours made for the answer you want.
Of course it is, and the only response that is applicable would be the providing of examples which show that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be.
 
The Death, Burial, & Resurrection of The Messiah time period, being "Three days & Three Nights" absolutely is tied in with the Creation of the Blasphemous "Sunday Sabbath", as well as the Pagan Easter Sunday.

By accepting the great lie,..... Of "Good Friday to Easter Sunday Morning" One makes Mankind's LORD & SAVIOR A LIAR, and, it endorses a "Pagan Oriented Sabbath".

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"Roman Catholic Confessions
James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers, 88th ed., pp. 89.

"But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.""

"James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter.

"Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day'? I answer no!

"Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons"

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Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957), p. 50.

"Question: Which is the Sabbath day?

"Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.

"Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?

"Answer. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."

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Anglican/Episcopal

Isaac Williams, Plain Sermons on the Catechism , vol. 1, pp.334, 336.

"And where are we told in the Scriptures that we are to keep the first day at all? We are commanded to keep the seventh; but we are nowhere commanded to keep the first day .... The reason why we keep the first day of the week holy instead of the seventh is for the same reason that we observe many other things, not because the Bible, but because the church has enjoined it."
Canon Eyton, The Ten Commandments , pp. 52, 63, 65.

"There is no word, no hint, in the New Testament about abstaining from work on Sunday .... into the rest of Sunday no divine law enters.... The observance of Ash Wednesday or Lent stands exactly on the same footing as the observance of Sunday."

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Dr. Edward T. Hiscox, a paper read before a New York ministers' conference, Nov. 13, 1893, reported in New York Examiner , Nov.16, 1893.

"There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week .... Where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament absolutely not.

"To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three years' intercourse with His disciples, often conversing with them upon the Sabbath question . . . never alluded to any transference of the day; also, that during forty days of His resurrection life, no such thing was intimated.

"Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history . . . . But what a pity it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!"

"Augsburg Confession of Faith art. 28; written by Melanchthon, approved by Martin Luther, 1530; as published in The Book of Concord of the Evangelical Lutheran Church Henry Jacobs, ed. (1 91 1), p. 63.

"They [Roman Catholics] refer to the Sabbath Day, as having been changed into the Lord's Day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it seems. Neither is there any example whereof they make more than concerning the changing of the Sabbath Day. Great, say they, is the power of the Church, since it has dispensed with one of the Ten Commandments!"


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John Wesley, The Works of the Rev. John Wesley, A.M., John Emory, ed. (New York: Eaton & Mains), Sermon 25,vol. 1, p. 221.

"But, the moral law contained in the ten commandments, and enforced by the prophets, he [Christ] did not take away. It was not the design of his coming to revoke any part of this. This is a law which never can be broken .... Every part of this law must remain in force upon all mankind, and in all ages; as not depending either on time or place, or any other circumstances liable to change, but on the nature of God and the nature of man, and their unchangeable relation to each other."

 
So far that has been true - no one visiting this topic has said that it was common usage. But that doesn't rule out that someone in the future might say it.

How does it meet the definition of a riddle?


And as I said previously, absolutely not! I would never do that. Please explain why that is your takeaway.

Of course it is, and the only response that is applicable would be the providing of examples which show that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be.
just a thought -- have you looked into the biblical language that establishes the Day of Atonement? The inclusion of the "evening" of the 9th counts as the entire of the ninth (according to Judaism)

 
The Death, Burial, & Resurrection of The Messiah time period, being "Three days & Three Nights" absolutely is tied in with the Creation of the Blasphemous "Sunday Sabbath", as well as the Pagan Easter Sunday.

By accepting the great lie,..... Of "Good Friday to Easter Sunday Morning" One makes Mankind's LORD & SAVIOR A LIAR, and, it endorses a "Pagan Oriented Sabbath".
Now that is off topic. It seems your real intent was to use the OP as a trojan horse. And you believe you are a truth seeker.
 
just a thought -- have you looked into the biblical language that establishes the Day of Atonement? The inclusion of the "evening" of the 9th counts as the entire of the ninth (according to Judaism)
I don't see where your link show that a night time was said to be involved when no part of a night time could be. Perhaps you could explain why you think that it does.
 
Actually it is addressing the topic. How is it not?
Because it does not show examples (plural) where a daytime or a night time was said to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could be. That is the only issue of this topic.
 
Now that is off topic. It seems your real intent was to use the OP as a trojan horse. And you believe you are a truth seeker.
Not at all Ding.

Pay Attention!

The Messiah clearly stated:


Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and Pharisees answered, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”
Mat 12:39 But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, but no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Constantine's early Catholic church, Corrupted, & Denied what The Messiah CLEARLY Stated, by changing the Time Period, & Days of The Messiah's Death, Burial, & Resurrection. Constantine then made the Observing of that False Sabbath, a Law in the Catholic Roman Empire, which those who refused to honor it, were severely persecuted.

Stop being a "Grade School Playground Whiner", & Focus on the Facts.
 
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Because it does not show examples (plural) where a daytime or a night time was said to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could be. That is the only issue of this topic.
Examples where a day or night is cited despite not being fully included often function as ancient idioms or figures of speech focusing on total time elapsed rather than literal components. The primary example, as discussed in Christian Forums at Crosswalk, is Jesus's prediction of being in the heart of the earth "three days and three nights" which is often interpreted to cover parts of only two nights and one full day. Another example is Esther requesting a fast for "three days, night or day" which historically resulted in her appearing before the King on the third day, not waiting for a full 72-hour cycle. These instances commonly highlight a cultural usage where any part of a day or night is counted as a full unit.
 
Not at all Ding.

Pay Attention!

The Messiah clearly stated:


Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and Pharisees answered, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”
Mat 12:39 But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, but no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Constantine's early Catholic church, Corrupted, & Denied what The Messiah CLEARLY Stated, by changing the Time Period, & Days of The Messiah's Death, Burial, & Resurrection. Constantine then made the Observing of that False Sabbath, a Law in the Catholic Roman Empire, which those who refused to honor it, were severely persecuted.

Stop being a "Grade School Playground Whiner", & Focus on the Facts.
I am paying attention. You're a religious nutjob.
 
  • Esther’s Fast: Queen Esther asked the Jews to fast for "three days, night or day" (Esther 4:16), but she went to the king on the "third day" (Esther 5:1), meaning she did not wait for a full 72 hours.
  • Joseph’s Imprisonment: Joseph imprisoned his brothers for "three days," yet released them on the "third day" (Genesis 42:17-18).
  • David and the Egyptian: David found an Egyptian who had not eaten for "three days and three nights" (1 Samuel 30:12-13), but the man stated he was abandoned by his master "three days ago," indicating part of a day was counted.
  • The "Third Day" Convention: In ancient, non-zero-based counting, a time mentioned as the "third day" from today means today is counted as day one, tomorrow is day two, and the next day is day three (e.g., Friday-Saturday-Sunday).
 

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