Rigby5
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They wear them to protect patients from saliva. You're wrong. But not from viruses, there you're correct.As for 'trap bacteria'.... For starters it is a virus... But if it was a bacteria, you are right, trap bacteria... You have it and you can't get infected twice, you want to trap it in and give it to others...If you are touching your face more with a mask you have an ill fitting mask... Get a proper fitting one and you don't need to touch it...
Tip: take your mask off with hand sanitiser on, it stops the virus getting on your hands...You know even if you have antibodies you can still get COVID and pass it on to others?
You won't even free anything, you will be just running around like Typhoid Mary. She didn't think she was harming anyone either.Look at the CDC excess deaths and explain them... I have a hospital full of patients as evidence...
All this pseudoscientific nonsense and other ignorance brought to you by the side whose “science” asserts that Bruce Jenner is a woman.
So if masks don't work, you don't care if your doctor or dentist wears a mask when operating on you, to prevent infection. You're good with whatever they're breathing on you.
It is likely masks worn by doctors and dentists accomplish nothing at all.
It is just psychological.
Saliva has a mild disinfectant.
If saliva were so bad, then humans would not kiss and animals would not lick themselves clean.
Diseases are spread through saliva.
Diseases are spread by spores, and those travel even better once the saliva dries out.
Saliva kills or inhibits pathogen growth more than it aids it.
When you cough or sneeze, that us mucus, NOT saliva.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Someone else's saliva has never been shown to prevent disease in another. It tends to carry it.
You believe in some weird shit.
That is entirely wrong. Saliva is a well known disinfectant, and has lot of healing properties.
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Wound licking is an instinctive response in humans and many other animals to lick an injury. Dogs, cats, small rodents, horses, and primates all lick wounds.[1] Saliva contains tissue factor which promotes the blood clotting mechanism. The enzyme lysozyme is found in many tissues and is known to attack the cell walls of many gram-positive bacteria, aiding in defense against infection. Tears are also beneficial to wounds due to the lysozyme enzyme.
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Oral mucosa heals faster than skin,[2] suggesting that saliva may have properties that aid wound healing. Saliva contains cell-derived tissue factor, and many compounds that are antibacterial or promote healing. Salivary tissue factor, associated with microvesicles shed from cells in the mouth, promotes wound healing through the extrinsic blood coagulation cascade.[3][4][5] The enzymes lysozyme and peroxidase,[6] defensins,[7] cystatins and an antibody, IgA,[8] are all antibacterial. Thrombospondin and some other components are antiviral.[9][10] A protease inhibitor, secretory leukocyte protease inhibitor, is present in saliva and is both antibacterial and antiviral, and a promoter of wound healing.[11][12] Nitrates that are naturally found in saliva break down into nitric oxide on contact with skin, which will inhibit bacterial growth.[13] Saliva contains growth factors[14] such as epidermal growth factor,[15] VEGF,[16] TGF-β1,[17] leptin,[18][19] IGF-I,[20][21] lysophosphatidic acid,[22][23] hyaluronan[24] and NGF,[25][26][27] which all promote healing, although levels of EGF and NGF in humans are much lower than those in rats. In humans, histatins may play a larger role.[28][29] As well as being growth factors, IGF-I and TGF-α induce antimicrobial peptides.[30] Saliva also contains an analgesic, opiorphin.[31] Licking will also tend to debride the wound and remove gross contamination from the affected area. In a recent study, scientists have confirmed through several experiments that the protein responsible for healing properties in human saliva is, in fact, histatin. Scientists are now looking for ways to make use of this information in ways that can lead to chronic wounds, burns, and injuries being healed by saliva.[32]
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It has been long observed that the licking of their wounds by dogs might be beneficial. Indeed, a dog's saliva is bactericidal against the bacteria Escherichia coli and Streptococcus canis, although not against coagulase-positive Staphylococcus or Pseudomonas aeruginosa.[33] Wound licking is also important in other animals. Removal of the salivary glands of mice[34] and rats slows wound healing, and communal licking of wounds among rodents accelerates wound healing.[35][36] Communal licking is common in several primate species. In macaques, hair surrounding a wound and any dirt is removed, and the wound is licked, healing without infection.
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You clearly have never had pets, worked on a farm, or know much about health in general.
Even kids know you should lick burns of cuts to help them heal.
Saliva in humans spreads disease. If you don't mind I'll stick with safer methods of cleaning wounds than being licked.
Also, I don't think you understood my comment on dog saliva nor do I really car as this is nothing more than an exercise in who gives a fuck.
BTW, 2 dogs, 1 cat.
You are just totally wrong.
There is no disease that can or does live in saliva.
When disease is spread in the air from one person to another, it is ALWAYS from mucus, like from a cough or sneeze.
The only problem with saliva is when it is from a carnivore that has partially decomposing meat in its mouth.
Saliva in humans or any animal, does NOT spread disease.
These diseases are passed via saliva.
Does Saliva Have Health Risks? 3 Ways Germs Can Spread
Did you know your mouth harbors hundreds of different microorganisms? Find out which ones can cause trouble when you accidentally share saliva.health.clevelandclinic.org
Still, there are plenty of ways to transmit certain illnesses via saliva, an issue that’s getting new attention thanks to the outbreak of the novel COVID-19 coronavirus.
Saliva is a large focus on helping prevent the spread of coronavirus. “There is clearly coronavirus in saliva,” says Dr. Benninger, “so anything like sharing food is a high-risk contact and should be avoided.”
Here are a few other illnesses which can work their way from your saliva into your nose, throat and lungs:
You're kind of wasting my time.
- Rhinovirus (colds)
- Flu virus
- Epstein-Barr virus (mononucleosis, or mono)
- Type 1 herpes (cold sores)
- Strep bacteria
- Hepatitis B and hepatitis C
- Cytomegalovirus (a risk for babies in the womb)
It is easy to prove Dr. Benninger is an idiot.
The only place the covid-19 virus can hide and multiply is in sinus and lung airways.
Is there any saliva in either place?
Of course not.
So how does the virus get into a sneeze off cough?
It is removed from the sinuses or lung airways by the mucus and phlegm secretions membrane lining, that are trying to physically stick to it and pull it away.
Of course then that mucus and phlegm end up on your mouth, but you are supposed to swallow it, where it is destroyed by your digestive enzymes.
Covid-19 can not and does not reproduce in your saliva.
The fact when you sneeze of cough, you expel mucus and phlegm is how and why it spreads.
The fact there may also be some saliva in that cough or sneeze is entirely incidental and has nothing at all to do with it.
You're not bright and I think you're making that up by arguing points that nobody really cares about. However, yes, COVID can be spread through saliva.
WHO says so
Q&A: How is COVID-19 transmitted?
How is the virus that causes COVID-19 most commonly transmitted between people?Current evidence suggests that COVID-19 spreads between people through direct, indirect (through contaminated objects or surfaces), or close contact with infected people via mouth and nose secretions. These include...www.who.int
You can test saliva for COVID
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview
COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.www.webmd.com
Now, again. This particular topic of yours is not the reason I'm in this thread. With that said, you're still wrong.
Wrong again.
The first link talks ONLY about the virus being transmitted by mouth and nose secretions.
That is mucus and phlegm.
Saliva is a digestive enzyme and has nothing to do with the covid-19 virus.
The second link talks about a proposed idea that saliva could be used instead of a nasal swab, but that has NOT yet been agreed upon by anyone. And it clearly says that saliva could only be used if kept on ice and tested before 24 hours, because the saliva will otherwise destroy the virus.