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[Cougarbear]

the religion of antiquity ... the reason for the first century events -

the time of noah is the reiteration of the heavenly religion, goal granted a&e at their request the means for remission to the everlasting as equals to those already there - the triumph of good vs evil - when accomplished will be the day of judgment for their request, admission to the everlasting. ... only those few left when they passed all would be lost anyway, the heavens chose to give humanity a second chance - no other beings were so destroyed.

the repudiation of judaism their false commandments, hereditary idolatry - the events of the 1st century by jesus and those others that gave their lives is done so for the reiteration of the heavenly religion of antiquity the jews have abandoned.

the crucifixion of jesus is the reversal of noah and only by bringing the crucifiers to justice can humanity ever hope to accomplish the goal set by the heavens for the reunion again of paradise on earth.

How is cloud nine? Got your harp? Is the harp in tune? Smoking something you shouldn't that is causing you to here voices and see strange gospels?
The people who drowned in the great flood are taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ as stated in 1Peter 3:18-21. While Noah and family were called righteous, later on, they or some of their children would continue on the sin. The flood did not wash away their sins. Only baptism can do this. But, even with baptism, one has to continue to be as righteous as possible choosing good over evil. If we error, we then ask for forgiveness, repent and partake of the Sacraments which are in remembrance of the Atonement. The only one who is sinning and committing idolartry is yourself.

 

[Meriweather]

Your first response about Luke 39:24 is so silly. Why do you have such a mental block that you can't read the words. The disciples were afraid because they saw Jesus and they didn't understand the resurrection quite yet. So, they thought they were seeing a ghost. He explained very clearly the in the resurrection, he and we too will have our bodies reunited with our spirits into a glorified human being of FLESH AND BONES! (No blood) Why do you ignore this? He's trying to teach you about the resurrection that he went through so you know that you too will be resurrected! Good grief. What is wrong with Catholic reading skills.

There is no mental block here. Did you need to be spoon fed the above information? I thought that was as obvious as beginning my post by carefully telling you the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Purposely, I kept my response polite and succinct because I knew my second response needed to be detailed--and that you would dismiss it anyway.

It's funny. You jump through hoops to say the judges in Isreal are gods. Then, you say people cannot be gods. Here is the other part you don't understand. Psalms 82:6 says clearly, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." Not just judges in Israel judge. In the New Testament, they are known as bishops. But, even women judged Israel like Diana and other prophetesses. The fact is, all 100 billion people old enough to judge who have ever lived on the earth have made some form of judgment. This chapter says to judge righteously. Why? Because we are learning to become gods who will eventually judge our own children as God. Why do I say this? Because it says that we are gods in embryo (children of the most high). We haven't obtained the status of "God" of our own universe. But, make no mistake, we can have this opportunity. With our eternal partner sealed for all eternity, we will have this opportunity. So, start now while you are in training. While you are merely sons of God who are in embryo learning. This is the Gospel truth I testify in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

And I dismiss this "testimony" because it has nothing to do with what was happening in Biblical culture at the time. It has everything to do with Mormon nineteenth/twentieth century Mormon culture thousands of years later. Look, I wish you the best. When I was fourteen I had my own very clear revelation--by the Holy Spirit--that this was not for me.

Two things further: First: You can claim it was "really" Satan whispering in my ear and even believe it, but I know better. Second: When the Holy Spirit speaks to me, I listen and attend extremely carefully. The exact words were, "This is not for you." In other words, I was not told that this wasn't for anyone, just not for me. Obviously, you are convinced Mormonism is for you, so go for it. But I will call you on Biblical misinterpretations when I know the actual language, history, and culture is quite different than your own presented opinions. We can both present. As always, it is up for each individual reader to consider and decide for him/herself.

 

[Cougarbear]

There is no mental block here. Did you need to be spoon fed the above information? I thought that was as obvious as beginning my post by carefully telling you the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Purposely, I kept my response polite and succinct because I knew my second response needed to be detailed--and that you would dismiss it anyway.

And I dismiss this "testimony" because it has nothing to do with what was happening in Biblical culture at the time. It has everything to do with Mormon nineteenth/twentieth century Mormon culture thousands of years later. Look, I wish you the best. When I was fourteen I had my own very clear revelation--by the Holy Spirit--that this was not for me.

Two things further: First: You can claim it was "really" Satan whispering in my ear and even believe it, but I know better. Second: When the Holy Spirit speaks to me, I listen and attend extremely carefully. The exact words were, "This is not for you." In other words, I was not told that this wasn't for anyone, just not for me. Obviously, you are convinced Mormonism is for you, so go for it. But I will call you on Biblical misinterpretations when I know the actual language, history, and culture is quite different than your own presented opinions. We can both present. As always, it is up for each individual reader to consider and decide for him/herself.

I simply read the scriptures in Luke. It's so obvious. But, because you have to look up Catholic teachings or remember them from your days at a Catholic school or something to be fed spoonful of crap. It's so obvious! Jesus showed them he was resurrected and was not a ghost (spirit). Just read the words. No commentary from Catholic or Mormon scholars is necessary. Jesus even ate with them to show what a glorified resurrected person is and what we all will be. Some glorified. Some not so glorified. And some no glorification at all, but still resurrected.

You can't dismiss my testimony because it's true. I have no biblical misinterpretations. But, even clearly spelled out words, sentences and paragraphs aren't good enough for you to believe.

 

[BreezeWood]

How is cloud nine? Got your harp? Is the harp in tune? Smoking something you shouldn't that is causing you to here voices and see strange gospels?
The people who drowned in the great flood are taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ as stated in 1Peter 3:18-21. While Noah and family were called righteous, later on, they or some of their children would continue on the sin. The flood did not wash away their sins. Only baptism can do this. But, even with baptism, one has to continue to be as righteous as possible choosing good over evil. If we error, we then ask for forgiveness, repent and partake of the Sacraments which are in remembrance of the Atonement. The only one who is sinning and committing idolartry is yourself.

no sins were washed away during the event you question - humanity not those that were deemed worthy is given a second chance.

bear chooses 4h century christianity, the liar and murderer moses, hereditary idolatry - abraham ... than jesus and those that gave their lives in the 1st century for the heavenly religion of antiquity.

their choice, good luck.

 

[Cougarbear]

no sins were washed away during the event you question - humanity not those that were deemed worthy is given a second chance.

bear chooses 4h century christianity, the liar and murderer moses, hereditary idolatry - abraham ... than jesus and those that gave their lives in the 1st century for the heavenly religion of antiquity.

their choice, good luck.

The only liars are the ones you are following. In which you haven't really shared with us on what you are basing your beliefs on. Chicken?

 

[onefour1]

From an Apostle of our Lord Jesus Christ, here are the doctrines of God.

 

[Meriweather]

You can't dismiss my testimony because it's true.

"Dismiss" doesn't enter the equation when those (like me) ignore it, because they are advised to do so by the Holy Spirit. Again, believe as you like--both about me and the Bible. The best indication I have that your Biblical interpretations are wrong, is because your interpretations of me are equally wrong.

 

[Cougarbear]

"Dismiss" doesn't enter the equation when those (like me) ignore it, because they are advised to do so by the Holy Spirit. Again, believe as you like--both about me and the Bible. The best indication I have that your Biblical interpretations are wrong, is because your interpretations of me are equally wrong.

According to you your interpretations are correct. The reason my interpretations are
Correct because the Holy Ghost says so. See the difference!

 

[Meriweather]

According to you your interpretations are correct. The reason my interpretations are
Correct because the Holy Ghost says so. See the difference!

I have no belief in Mr. Smith or The Book of Mormon, or any other odd interpretations Mormons manufacture from the Bible. You go your way... I'll go mine ... now and forever 'til the end of time. As I said, what the Holy Spirit has imparted to me, does not match Mormonism. It does match the Bible--and did even prior to my Bible studies. God bless. Amen.

 

[ding]

English is actually a very easy language to understand. You should try understanding it some day. John 10:34 is part of a conversation that began several verses before with the leader of the Jews. They were mad at Jesus for claiming he is God and the Son of God. It's actually very clear this is what they were mad about. To them, it was blasphemy for a man to call himself a God. Yet, Jesus used the verses in Psalms 82 against them by telling the leader of the Jews they were all gods too. And, all sons of God as well in which the OT states as well.

Mark 16:15, "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world. and preach the gospel to every creature."
There is nothing in this sentence that says anything about we are all gods. Do you think it is a secret code or something
"Creature" obviously refers to every person in any land they go to. To the four corners of the earth if necessary. That has nothing to do with did Jesus say we are gods too.

You are a creature. You are not a god.

 

[Cougarbear]

I have no belief in Mr. Smith or The Book of Mormon, or any other odd interpretations Mormons manufacture from the Bible. You go your way... I'll go mine ... now and forever 'til the end of time. As I said, what the Holy Spirit has imparted to me, does not match Mormonism. It does match the Bible--and did even prior to my Bible studies. God bless. Amen.

I have no belief in Joseph Smith either. I believe in Christ because the Holy Ghost bears record to me of this. I believe the Bible to be the word of God as I do the Book of Mormon because the Holy Ghost bears record to me of this. I believe the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith are the direct words of Christ because the Holy Ghost bears record to me of this. I believe the heavens are again open to prophets and apostles as stated in Ephesians chapter four.

 

[Cougarbear]

You are a creature. You are not a god.

He says we are gods. I take Jesus and Jehovahs words as truth.

 

[ding]

He says we are gods. I take Jesus and Jehovahs words as truth.

He didn't. He asked a question. He wasn't making a statement. You are one of God's creatures. That's it.

If his intent was to tell us we are gods or could become gods, there would have been an entire passage dedicated to it.

 

[BreezeWood]

If his intent was to tell us we are gods or could become gods, there would have been an entire passage dedicated to it.

referred to as the true events of the 1st century, liberation theology, self determination to become as gods to receive heavenly judgement for admission to the everlasting.

as most of what jesus taught and those others that gave their lives in the 1st century for the original religion of antiquity, goal set by the heavens - the crucifiers deliberately kept from inclusion in their 4th century christian bible - to rather use them for their own agenda, false commandments.

 

[Cougarbear]

He didn't. He asked a question. He wasn't making a statement. You are one of God's creatures. That's it.

If his intent was to tell us we are gods or could become gods, there would have been an entire passage dedicated to it.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.

The scripture cannot be broken. The word came through revelation to David. It is therefore true. We are gods and children of the Father. We have a lot to learn as children before inheriting the kingdom of God which Jesus also taught.

 

[ding]

referred to as the true events of the 1st century, liberation theology, self determination to become as gods to receive heavenly judgement for admission to the everlasting.

as most of what jesus taught and those others that gave their lives in the 1st century for the original religion of antiquity, goal set by the heavens - the crucifiers deliberately kept from inclusion in their 4th century christian bible - to rather use them for their own agenda, false commandments.

The first Christians worshiping Jesus as God says you are wrong.

 

[ding]

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.

The scripture cannot be broken. The word came through revelation to David. It is therefore true. We are gods and children of the Father. We have a lot to learn as children before inheriting the kingdom of God which Jesus also taught.

No, he asked a question. He was not making a statement.

 

[Cougarbear]

No, he asked a question. He was not making a statement.

It was a rhetorical question. The answer to the question is “Yes!” He knew the rabbis knew the verse he was referring to. So, the answer had to be yes, they knew the answer is they are gods. So simple.

A rhetorical question is one that answers a question with a question. Another term used in our days is the porcupine method of answering a question. Porcupine it back to them. You, on the other hand, take the verse out of context with the preceding verses where the rabbis were asking him the question.

 

[ding]

It was a rhetorical question. The answer to the question is “Yes!” He knew the rabbis knew the verse he was referring to. So, the answer had to be yes, they knew the answer is they are gods. So simple.

A rhetorical question is one that answers a question with a question. Another term used in our days is the porcupine method of answering a question. Porcupine it back to them. You, on the other hand, take the verse out of context with the preceding verses where the rabbis were asking him the question.

It was rhetorical because he was arguing who do you think I am to be performing miracles. He was being accused of sorcery. It wasn't rhetorical because some jackanape thinks anyone can be God.

 

[Cougarbear]

It was rhetorical because he was arguing who do you think I am to be performing miracles. He was being accused of sorcery. It wasn't rhetorical because some jackanape thinks anyone can be God.

You are making stuff up. He looked at the PEOPLE and rhetorically questioned did I not say to you Jews that you are gods? Referring to when he told David as Jehovah they are gods. You aren’t God so stop telling God what he meant when he said we are gods. I’m okay with you denying this. It’s your choice to put words in the Lord’s mouth and deny your inheritance.