Zone1 Mary

[Cougarbear]

suppose not, again you fail to answer the question ...

ours is the heavenly spoken religion of antiquity, six words in length ... the goal set by them given to a&e to accomplish for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

and the knowledge of the 1st century events passed down verbally the same as their religion.

Obviously not the same religion as you attack the Bible. The spoken religion is easily lost from person to person. Glad the apostles wrote down what they saw, heard and were taught correctly by Jesus Christ. Not your gnostic gospels.

 

[Cougarbear]

You misunderstand, or I was not clear. God did not reveal Himself as three people and that more people would become Gods, too.

He in fact did. Jesus was baptized. The voice of Heavenly Father spoke to Jesus saying that he was well pleased. Then, the Holy Ghost came and was said to be like in the form of a dove. Sure it wasn't but it was the best the apostles and those present could explain the Holy Ghost. Three separate persons. And, for the thousandth time, John 10:34. He said all the people were already gods.

 

[Cougarbear]

No. It is not. Far from the Bible, in fact. It's from the Book of Mormon.

John 10:34, And the road to Emmaus is not from the Book of Mormon, It's from the Bible. Luke 24:39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.. He followed that up by eating with them.
Do you deny the Christ?

 

[Cougarbear]

Not sure how you can’t recognize that you believing there is a path for men to become gods isn’t polytheism.

You can call it what you want. I don't care. I do not deny the Christ when he told his apostles and disciples that he has a body of flesh and bones. Luke 24:39. Why do you deny the Christ? John 10:34.

 

[Meriweather]

He in fact did. Jesus was baptized. The voice of Heavenly Father spoke to Jesus saying that he was well pleased. Then, the Holy Ghost came and was said to be like in the form of a dove. Sure it wasn't but it was the best the apostles and those present could explain the Holy Ghost. Three separate persons. And, for the thousandth time, John 10:34. He said all the people were already gods.

John 10:34, And the road to Emmaus is not from the Book of Mormon, It's from the Bible. Luke 24:39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.. He followed that up by eating with them.
Do you deny the Christ?

It seems you are truly desperate to become God. Only LDS comes up with the above interpretations.

 

[BreezeWood]

Obviously not the same religion as you attack the Bible. The spoken religion is easily lost from person to person. Glad the apostles wrote down what they saw, heard and were taught correctly by Jesus Christ. Not your gnostic gospels.

did they archive a single document you claim they used during the 100 year period, the 4th century to write their 10000 pg christian bible.

bear again fails to answer the question ...

the religion of antiquity its goal is the reiteration made by the heavens as their event during the time of noah - the triumph of good vs evil - to attain judgement for admission to the everlasting.

and is the repudiation during the 1st century of judaism their false commandments, heredity idolatry et al made by jesus and those others that gave their lives freely for the goal made by the heavens.

the true fact of the conclusion for those events, the crucifixion of jesus was the reversal of noah and will remain till the crucifiers are brought to justice. all three desert religions.

 

[BreezeWood]

It seems you are truly desperate to become God. Only LDS comes up with the above interpretations.

all in the heavens are equal, become as those already there ...

what exactly do you need to become enabling your entry into heaven if not a god, triumphant over evil as one of those already there - servitude and denial is no where found in the heavens.

 

[ding]

You can call it what you want. I don't care. I do not deny the Christ when he told his apostles and disciples that he has a body of flesh and bones. Luke 24:39. Why do you deny the Christ? John 10:34.

I don't deny the divinity or humanity of Christ. I deny the divinity of God's creatures.

 

[BreezeWood]

I deny the divinity of God's creatures.

life is from the heavens ... all are born w/ the same opportunities.

Then they said, “Let us make life in our image, in our likeness, the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky the livestock and all the wild animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground.”

best you believe what jesus taught than living life as a crucifier, your temporary rewards will bite you in the end.

 

[Cougarbear]

It seems you are truly desperate to become God. Only LDS comes up with the above interpretations.

Okay, so please share your interpretation of Luke 24:39 and what happened. Why did Jesus come to them and why did he be so specific as to point out he is not a spirit?

Jesus was talking to the leader of the Jews and was asked why does he call himself God. Jesus responded by reminding them that he (Jesus when he was known as Jehovah) said they are in fact gods already. The first part of Genesis tells us what the first step in becoming a god is. It's knowing good and evil. We became one of them (US) Us refers to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. So, please share your interpretation of John 10:34.

 

[Cougarbear]

bear again fails to answer the question ...

the religion of antiquity its goal is the reiteration made by the heavens as their event during the time of noah - the triumph of good vs evil - to attain judgement for admission to the everlasting.

and is the repudiation during the 1st century of judaism their false commandments, heredity idolatry et al made by jesus and those others that gave their lives freely for the goal made by the heavens.

the true fact of the conclusion for those events, the crucifixion of jesus was the reversal of noah and will remain till the crucifiers are brought to justice. all three desert religions.

The Atonement was the reversal of Adam's transgression. The purpose of the Flood was two fold. First, the people had become so wicked that the Light of Christ (good) was not able to be found by the people. All that was in existence save it were Noah's family was evil. To give his children that were spirits to come down to earth and have a chance to learn good and evil as Adam and Eve did was to start over with Noah and his family. Second, the earth is a living spirit as well. To be celestialized eternally, the earth also is required to be baptized by water and fire. Other than that, I have no idea why you brought Noah into this. Must be in your Gnostic Gospels.

 

[Cougarbear]

I don't deny the divinity or humanity of Christ. I deny the divinity of God's creatures.

Since Christ said I'm a god, then I will take him at his word. Why do you deny his words? By denying what is in front of you in John 10:34, you are denying his divinity and humanity...

 

[ding]

life is from the heavens ... all are born w/ the same opportunities.



best you believe what jesus taught than living life as a crucifier, your temporary rewards will bite you in the end.

Yes, equal OPPORTUNITITY for all.

The only crucifiers here is you and those like you.

 

[ding]

Since Christ said I'm a god, then I will take him at his word. Why do you deny his words? By denying what is in front of you in John 10:34, you are denying his divinity and humanity...

He didn't and you are not. You don't understand John 10:34 and you ignore Mark 16:15. If becoming God is the point of all this there would have been an entire book on it.

 

[Meriweather]

Okay, so please share your interpretation of Luke 24:39 and what happened. Why did Jesus come to them and why did he be so specific as to point out he is not a spirit?

Jesus was stressing the necessity of the cross and the reality of the resurrection. This is not about you. It's about Jesus' work and the necessity for it and all it accomplished for life on earth.

Jesus was talking to the leader of the Jews and was asked why does he call himself God. Jesus responded by reminding them that he (Jesus when he was known as Jehovah) said they are in fact gods already. The first part of Genesis tells us what the first step in becoming a god is. It's knowing good and evil. We became one of them (US) Us refers to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. So, please share your interpretation of John 10:34.

Judges ruled for about three hundred years--a thousand years before the birth of Christ. The Judge was commissioned, by God, to be god to those brought before them to be judged. (Exodus 21-22 may provide understanding about this.) The Hebrew word for judges is elohiym (which was translated as 'gods'. Jewish scripture described men who were commissioned by God for a special task as gods.

Jesus was taking his critics back a thousand years when the Judges and men who performed a special task for God were characterized as gods (note the adjective instead of the noun, God). Jesus said as God sent him into this world to accomplish a special task, how could his critics object to Jesus calling himself the Son of God? (In the past, this is what their own scriptures had done for those commissioned by God for a special task for men on earth.)

Through ignoring the etymology of the Hebrew words; by using the word 'gods' out of context and culture, the LDS faith has jumped to the conclusion that instead of being appointed to one special task for the benefit of men on earth, they, themselves will become Gods. Forget that 'gods' was an adjectives, because most were Judges to certain people in that here and now. LDS teaches they will become Gods (nouns) that have nothing to do with performing a special task for God on earth in their here and now; but after death, they will be ruling their own planet entirely separate from God.

While the Book of Mormon might assure you of this future, neither Jewish scripture and nor the Bible do. Both are focused on One God, not on a bunch of Mormons with ruling over their own planets.

 

[BreezeWood]

I have no idea why you brought Noah into this.

the religion of antiquity ... the reason for the first century events -

the time of noah is the reiteration of the heavenly religion, goal granted a&e at their request the means for remission to the everlasting as equals to those already there - the triumph of good vs evil - when accomplished will be the day of judgment for their request, admission to the everlasting. ... only those few left when they passed all would be lost anyway, the heavens chose to give humanity a second chance - no other beings were so destroyed.

the repudiation of judaism their false commandments, hereditary idolatry - the events of the 1st century by jesus and those others that gave their lives is done so for the reiteration of the heavenly religion of antiquity the jews have abandoned.

the crucifixion of jesus is the reversal of noah and only by bringing the crucifiers to justice can humanity ever hope to accomplish the goal set by the heavens for the reunion again of paradise on earth.

 

[BreezeWood]

Yes, equal OPPORTUNITITY for all.

The only crucifiers here is you and those like you.

best you believe what jesus taught than living life as a crucifier, your temporary rewards will bite you in the end.

all living beings, christian - not just yourself and as a sinner not you at all. definitely what jesus taught.

persecuting and victimizing the innocent is all there is for christians using their book of forgeries, lies and fallacies - enjoy yourself while you can.

 

[ding]

all living beings, christian - not just yourself and as a sinner not you at all. definitely what jesus taught.

persecuting and victimizing the innocent is all there is for christians using their book of forgeries, lies and fallacies - enjoy yourself while you can.

I don't believe you have a clue about what Jesus taught.

I haven't persecuted or victimized anyone, bub, but I am certainly enjoying the good life. Which I believe is more than your welfare state ass can say. You are the sum of your choices. Keep choosing poorly and expecting different results.

 

[Cougarbear]

He didn't and you are not. You don't understand John 10:34 and you ignore Mark 16:15. If becoming God is the point of all this there would have been an entire book on it.

English is actually a very easy language to understand. You should try understanding it some day. John 10:34 is part of a conversation that began several verses before with the leader of the Jews. They were mad at Jesus for claiming he is God and the Son of God. It's actually very clear this is what they were mad about. To them, it was blasphemy for a man to call himself a God. Yet, Jesus used the verses in Psalms 82 against them by telling the leader of the Jews they were all gods too. And, all sons of God as well in which the OT states as well.

Mark 16:15, "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world. and preach the gospel to every creature."
There is nothing in this sentence that says anything about we are all gods. Do you think it is a secret code or something
"Creature" obviously refers to every person in any land they go to. To the four corners of the earth if necessary. That has nothing to do with did Jesus say we are gods too.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus was stressing the necessity of the cross and the reality of the resurrection. This is not about you. It's about Jesus' work and the necessity for it and all it accomplished for life on earth.

Judges ruled for about three hundred years--a thousand years before the birth of Christ. The Judge was commissioned, by God, to be god to those brought before them to be judged. (Exodus 21-22 may provide understanding about this.) The Hebrew word for judges is elohiym (which was translated as 'gods'. Jewish scripture described men who were commissioned by God for a special task as gods.

Jesus was taking his critics back a thousand years when the Judges and men who performed a special task for God were characterized as gods (note the adjective instead of the noun, God). Jesus said as God sent him into this world to accomplish a special task, how could his critics object to Jesus calling himself the Son of God? (In the past, this is what their own scriptures had done for those commissioned by God for a special task for men on earth.)

Through ignoring the etymology of the Hebrew words; by using the word 'gods' out of context and culture, the LDS faith has jumped to the conclusion that instead of being appointed to one special task for the benefit of men on earth, they, themselves will become Gods. Forget that 'gods' was an adjectives, because most were Judges to certain people in that here and now. LDS teaches they will become Gods (nouns) that have nothing to do with performing a special task for God on earth in their here and now; but after death, they will be ruling their own planet entirely separate from God.

While the Book of Mormon might assure you of this future, neither Jewish scripture and nor the Bible do. Both are focused on One God, not on a bunch of Mormons with ruling over their own planets.

Your first response about Luke 39:24 is so silly. Why do you have such a mental block that you can't read the words. The disciples were afraid because they saw Jesus and they didn't understand the resurrection quite yet. So, they thought they were seeing a ghost. He explained very clearly the in the resurrection, he and we too will have our bodies reunited with our spirits into a glorified human being of FLESH AND BONES! (No blood) Why do you ignore this? He's trying to teach you about the resurrection that he went through so you know that you too will be resurrected! Good grief. What is wrong with Catholic reading skills.

It's funny. You jump through hoops to say the judges in Isreal are gods. Then, you say people cannot be gods. Here is the other part you don't understand. Psalms 82:6 says clearly, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." Not just judges in Israel judge. In the New Testament, they are known as bishops. But, even women judged Israel like Diana and other prophetesses. The fact is, all 100 billion people old enough to judge who have ever lived on the earth have made some form of judgment. This chapter says to judge righteously. Why? Because we are learning to become gods who will eventually judge our own children as God. Why do I say this? Because it says that we are gods in embryo (children of the most high). We haven't obtained the status of "God" of our own universe. But, make no mistake, we can have this opportunity. With our eternal partner sealed for all eternity, we will have this opportunity. So, start now while you are in training. While you are merely sons of God who are in embryo learning. This is the Gospel truth I testify in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.