Zone1 Mary

[Cougarbear]

Let's ask google and see what google has to say, ok?

Yes, the Bible implies that God created the universe from nothing, a doctrine known as creation ex nihilo:

• Genesis 1:1
  The first sentence of the Bible states, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth".
  
  
• Hebrews 11:3
  This verse states, "By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible".
  
  
• Other biblical passages
  Romans 4:17 and Colossians 1:16 also support the doctrine of creation ex nihilo.

 

[Cougarbear]

The meaning of the word "created" is the question. The Hebrew bara is create and the word asah means make something out of something that already exists. But, the Bible creates a gray area by using these interchangeably . For instance, Bara does not always mean to create out of nothing. God created the first male and female humans (Gen 5:2). But, we know from Gen 2:22 that God FORMED Adam from the dust of the earth and fashioned Eve from the rib of Adam. So, making a strong distinction between bara and asah in Genesis 1:1 is as unjustified as making a distinction between create and make in English. So, creation ex nihilo is something conjured up by some ministers and churches to control the narrative for magical things they do not understand. We have to then rely on Prophets to answer the question in our modern day English. Fortunately, some of us recognize that God has again supplied the Earth with Prophets and Apostles in these latter-days.

To your second point, the "Word" is Jesus Christ .So, Jesus Christ made the Heavens and the Earth out of matter yet unorganized. That's why they were not visible. The matter had to be formed or framed using gravity for one thing. So, your verses you use out of context and understanding give your understanding.

 

[otto105]

Let me guess, blacks playing middle easterns who are white?

Were the Egyptians not brown people?

 

[Cougarbear]

Genesis 1:1-2
Psalm 89:11-12
Psalm 148:1-6
Colossians 1:16
Nehemiah 9:6
Isaiah 66:1-2
Revelation 4:11

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Says who? I already explained that bara cannot mean ONLY from nothing. It is used many times with asas. But, you will not let yourself learn new things because you have been brainwashed to think of magical nonsense when it comes to God. I suppose you think God is so big he fills the universe and yet so small he can enter your heart. Such utter nonsense to believe. Satan is laughing at you.

 

[surada]

This is just dumb. Why would they claim Mary to be Palestinian? She is descended from King David, of Judah. Therefore, from human genealogy, she is from the tribe of Judah as would Jesus Christ. Joseph is not Jesus human biological father. Father in Heaven is. But, Joseph adopted Jesus and Joseph is also a descendent of Judah, Jewish. The present day Palestinians are not descendant from Judah. End of debate.

Both Palestinians and Jews are descended from Canaanites .

 

[Cougarbear]

It's hysterical to listen to him double talk. So, there was nothing but God. So, from what did God figure out that there could be matter in the form of energy or solids that could become a universe of galaxies and things like animals, insects, humans and all manner of life? He knew nothing yet knew about everything? LOL This is the mystical BS that Satan wants us to believe so we can't love a real glorified living man. Instead, Satan keeps you in darkness from knowing your Father in Heaven lives and is a real glorified resurrected human being. Something tangible you can hug and receive love from. Satan will never have a resurrected body that we can love and that can love us. Therefore, he wants you to be miserable in eternity with him. I know my redeemer lives too. That he has now a resurrected body and is a glorified human being. Do you believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ? Is Jesus Christ God? If you say yes to both, then God has a body of flesh and bones. End of your nonsense stories.

 

[ding]

Dumb responses from a non-intellectual. You have no answers so you resort to name calling.

You are a polytheist. It's not name calling. It's a description of what you are. You believe in at least three different Gods and you believe there are more and that you can become one yourself.

 

[ding]

CMB is not the formation of the universe. It's the result of the so-called big bang. 385,000 years after the so-called big bang. Therefore, this doesn't talk about the actual beginning moment of the universe. If you think it still does, then God used the Plasma or radiation mass to organized the universe into galaxies through a process involving gravity. Just another distraction but still better proves my point that energy always existed and therefore we always existed too, along with God.

I never said the CMB was the formation of the universe. The CMB is physical evidence of radiation that came from the creation of the universe from paired particle production.

The CMB is literally the physical evidence of a massive paired particle production firestorm.

 

[ding]

Apparently, your interpretation of Psalms 82:6 is wrong. Jesus was clearly answering the question posed by the Sadducees that Jesus was committing blasphemy calling himself God. Or, in other words, calling himself a God. He responded saying that he told them before that they were gods too using Psalms 82:6. Your interpretation of this scripture is therefore in correct.

No. It's not. Ask google.

Your interpretation of John 10:34 is incorrect and contradicts Mark 16:15.

 

[ding]

It's hysterical to listen to him double talk. So, there was nothing but God. So, from what did God figure out that there could be matter in the form of energy or solids that could become a universe of galaxies and things like animals, insects, humans and all manner of life? He knew nothing yet knew about everything? LOL This is the mystical BS that Satan wants us to believe so we can't love a real glorified living man. Instead, Satan keeps you in darkness from knowing your Father in Heaven lives and is a real glorified resurrected human being. Something tangible you can hug and receive love from. Satan will never have a resurrected body that we can love and that can love us. Therefore, he wants you to be miserable in eternity with him. I know my redeemer lives too. That he has now a resurrected body and is a glorified human being. Do you believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ? Is Jesus Christ God? If you say yes to both, then God has a body of flesh and bones. End of your nonsense stories.

You aren't addressing what he said about Jesus.

 

[ding]

The meaning of the word "created" is the question. The Hebrew bara is create and the word asah means make something out of something that already exists. But, the Bible creates a gray area by using these interchangeably . For instance, Bara does not always mean to create out of nothing. God created the first male and female humans (Gen 5:2). But, we know from Gen 2:22 that God FORMED Adam from the dust of the earth and fashioned Eve from the rib of Adam. So, making a strong distinction between bara and asah in Genesis 1:1 is as unjustified as making a distinction between create and make in English. So, creation ex nihilo is something conjured up by some ministers and churches to control the narrative for magical things they do not understand. We have to then rely on Prophets to answer the question in our modern day English. Fortunately, some of us recognize that God has again supplied the Earth with Prophets and Apostles in these latter-days.

To your second point, the "Word" is Jesus Christ .So, Jesus Christ made the Heavens and the Earth out of matter yet unorganized. That's why they were not visible. The matter had to be formed or framed using gravity for one thing. So, your verses you use out of context and understanding give your understanding.

I'm going to go with google on this one.

 

[ding]

Says who? I already explained that bara cannot mean ONLY from nothing. It is used many times with asas. But, you will not let yourself learn new things because you have been brainwashed to think of magical nonsense when it comes to God. I suppose you think God is so big he fills the universe and yet so small he can enter your heart. Such utter nonsense to believe. Satan is laughing at you.

You haven't refuted this with facts or logic.

 

[Cougarbear]

You are a polytheist. It's not name calling. It's a description of what you are. You believe in at least three different Gods and you believe there are more and that you can become one yourself.

The Bible concurs there are three members of one Godhead. The Father is one. The Son is the second. The Holy Ghost is the third member. One God (Title of the Godhead of three). How many times does the Bible refer to all three but never as one personage. I guess in our day, a way to understand is the concept of a corporation. A corporation is a person made up of the CEO and two presidents or vice-president. Could be the CEO, President and Vice-president. Then, the employees are the angels in a comparison. Does that help.

 

[Cougarbear]

I never said the CMB was the formation of the universe. The CMB is physical evidence of radiation that came from the creation of the universe from paired particle production.

The CMB is literally the physical evidence of a massive paired particle production firestorm.

And, where did the paired particles come from? Of course, there doesn't need to have been a big bang either for your example. There are other theories of the universe that suggest this. The idea that God willed into existence paired particles is simply your opinion based on the prophets of science, not God.

 

[Cougarbear]

No. It's not. Ask google.

Your interpretation of John 10:34 is incorrect and contradicts Mark 16:15.

Mark 16:15, "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." What does that have to do with John 10:34?
John 10:33, "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a MAN, makest thyself God." The Jewish rabbis said that mankind cannot be God or a God. But, Jesus answered them saying:
John 10:34, "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" Hmmm...He was referring to Psalms 82:6 that He, Jesus, said (meaning Jesus is Jehovah) mankind can be gods. The rest of the verses prove this point.
When you go to Psalms 82:6, after Jesus (Jehovah) said "Ye are gods," He then said, "but children of the most High God." Meaning that we will always be children to Father in Heaven as Jesus (Jehovah) will always be the Son of the Father God. This is pointed out back in Mark chapter 16, but in verse19, "So then after the Lord (Jesus/Jehovah) had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God (The Father). Thus, the God Father could not be Jesus/Jehovah unless He sat beside himself.
Put all this together had it makes perfect sense that we human beings, like Jesus, can become gods and also sit at the right hand of the Father. To argue against this is the same as rejecting the scriptures themselves.

 

[Cougarbear]

You aren't addressing what he said about Jesus.

Yes I did and I reject what he said because it's not doctrinal. Not in the scriptures. And, not brought forth by a Prophet of God.

 

[Cougarbear]

I'm going to go with google on this one.

Can't read and make your own understandings? LOL! And, you are trying to make me believe Google as the evidence of your opinions on God? LOL! I actually have a testimony of what I teach from the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Cougarbear]

You haven't refuted this with facts or logic.

I have refuted your Google references. They are not fact.

 

[ding]

The Bible concurs there are three members of one Godhead. The Father is one. The Son is the second. The Holy Ghost is the third member. One God (Title of the Godhead of three). How many times does the Bible refer to all three but never as one personage. I guess in our day, a way to understand is the concept of a corporation. A corporation is a person made up of the CEO and two presidents or vice-president. Could be the CEO, President and Vice-president. Then, the employees are the angels in a comparison. Does that help.

That's exactly what I would expect a polytheist to say. Especially one who thinks it's possible for him to become God.

 

[ding]

And, where did the paired particles come from? Of course, there doesn't need to have been a big bang either for your example. There are other theories of the universe that suggest this. The idea that God willed into existence paired particles is simply your opinion based on the prophets of science, not God.

They came from no where. They did not exist before popping into existence. God willed existence into being.