March was the 349th straight month with global avg temps over 20th century average

libs will tell you scientists from all over the world agree on AGW.

just because virtually the whole planet except for a few Western nations are EXEMPT from costly carbon-reducing standards; so their industries can make maximum profits; doesnt mean their scientists have an agenda or anything


libs are losers who lie to themselves
 
If one of those experiments was the fish tank experiment you mentioned, you got duped. Did the good professor doing it mention that the temperature increase in the closed tank was due to the heat of compression or did he simply let you believe it was CO2 behaving as it does in the atmosphere?

I dont remember the experiment but if it was heat of compression then the effect would be immediate and the tank would lose heat until it equilibrated with its surroundings. if it slowly increased and stayed at a higher temp, what would be your explanation?

Wouldn't be immediate in either direction.....refer to ideal gas laws

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Explain your position more fully. Are you saying that the temperature change would be the same whether the bolus of gas was plain air or CO2, or not?
 
CO2 is a greenhouse gas that absorbs heat energy that is trying to leave Earth and keeps it inside the atmosphere. That's established physics, CrazyFruitcake, and none of your dimwitted denial will change that.

Actually it isn't. It is a failed hypothesis. Damned near 20 years of no warming in spite of increasing atmospheric CO2

Actually it is. Actually you're an ignorant retard. That CO2 is a heat absorbing greenhouse gas is an established scientific fact, backed by the laws of physics and over a century of observations. The fact that you're in denial about this just highlights your severe retardation.

"20 years of no warming".....LOLOLOL.....you're not just retarded but 'actually' insane.....

In the real world, here are some examples of the undeniable warming trend that is changing the Earth's climate patterns.

* This last January, 2014, was the 4th warmest January on record and this last March was the 4th warmest March on record.

* April, 2014, was the 2nd warmest April on record.

* Last November, 2013, was THE warmest November on record going back to at least 1880.

* January was the ninth consecutive month (since May 2013) with a global monthly temperature among the 10 highest for its respective month in the entire temperature record. January and March were both among the 5 highest.

* January was the 38th consecutive January with global average temperatures above the entire twentieth century average for January.

* January was the 347th consecutive month (almost 29 years) with average temperatures above the 20th century global average temperature for all Januarys. The most recent month analyzed so far, April, was the 350th straight month with global average temperatures higher than the 20th century average for that month.

* 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record.

* 2010 is tied with 2005 as the warmest years on record.

* 2001 to 2010 was the warmest decade on record.

* All of the warmest years on record, going back to at least 1880, have happened since 1998.

* All of the coldest years since 1998 are still warmer than all of the hottest years before 1998.

* The Arctic ice cap is still rapidly melting away.

* Large areas of the northern permafrost are still rapidly melting.

* Greenland and Antarctica are still losing ice mass at increasing rates.

* The large majority of mountain glaciers are still rapidly melting and disappearing.

* Sea levels are still rising at an accelerating rate.


GLOBALLY, this shows the rising surface air temperatures.

had4_v2_giss.png

Global temperature (annual values) in the data from NASA GISS (orange) and from Cowtan & Way (blue), i.e. HadCRUT4 with interpolated data gaps.
One can clearly see the extreme year 1998, which (thanks to the record-El Niño) stands out above the long-term trend like no other year. But even taking this outlier year as starting point, the linear trend 1998-2013 in all four data sets is positive. Also clearly visible is 2010 as the warmest year since records began, and the minima in the years 2008 and 2011/2012. But just like the peaks are getting higher, these minima are less and less deep.
(source: RealClimate)

And this shows the even faster rising ocean temperatures.

heat_buildup.jpg
 
CO2 is a greenhouse gas that absorbs heat energy that is trying to leave Earth and keeps it inside the atmosphere. That's established physics, CrazyFruitcake, and none of your dimwitted denial will change that.

Actually it isn't. It is a failed hypothesis. Damned near 20 years of no warming in spite of increasing atmospheric CO2

Actually it is. Actually you're an ignorant retard. That CO2 is a heat absorbing greenhouse gas is an established scientific fact, backed by the laws of physics and over a century of observations. The fact that you're in denial about this just highlights your severe retardation.

"20 years of no warming".....LOLOLOL.....you're not just retarded but 'actually' insane.....

In the real world, here are some examples of the undeniable warming trend that is changing the Earth's climate patterns.

* This last January, 2014, was the 4th warmest January on record and this last March was the 4th warmest March on record.

* April, 2014, was the 2nd warmest April on record.

* Last November, 2013, was THE warmest November on record going back to at least 1880.

* January was the ninth consecutive month (since May 2013) with a global monthly temperature among the 10 highest for its respective month in the entire temperature record. January and March were both among the 5 highest.

* January was the 38th consecutive January with global average temperatures above the entire twentieth century average for January.

* January was the 347th consecutive month (almost 29 years) with average temperatures above the 20th century global average temperature for all Januarys. The most recent month analyzed so far, April, was the 350th straight month with global average temperatures higher than the 20th century average for that month.

* 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record.

* 2010 is tied with 2005 as the warmest years on record.

* 2001 to 2010 was the warmest decade on record.

* All of the warmest years on record, going back to at least 1880, have happened since 1998.

* All of the coldest years since 1998 are still warmer than all of the hottest years before 1998.

* The Arctic ice cap is still rapidly melting away.

* Large areas of the northern permafrost are still rapidly melting.

* Greenland and Antarctica are still losing ice mass at increasing rates.

* The large majority of mountain glaciers are still rapidly melting and disappearing.

* Sea levels are still rising at an accelerating rate.


GLOBALLY, this shows the rising surface air temperatures.

had4_v2_giss.png

Global temperature (annual values) in the data from NASA GISS (orange) and from Cowtan & Way (blue), i.e. HadCRUT4 with interpolated data gaps.
One can clearly see the extreme year 1998, which (thanks to the record-El Niño) stands out above the long-term trend like no other year. But even taking this outlier year as starting point, the linear trend 1998-2013 in all four data sets is positive. Also clearly visible is 2010 as the warmest year since records began, and the minima in the years 2008 and 2011/2012. But just like the peaks are getting higher, these minima are less and less deep.
(source: RealClimate)

And this shows the even faster rising ocean temperatures.

heat_buildup.jpg







Yep, your cartoonist makes some nice graphs.....that's for sure. Funny how they can't seem to measure all that heat that is supposedly building up in the oceans.
 
I dont remember the experiment but if it was heat of compression then the effect would be immediate and the tank would lose heat until it equilibrated with its surroundings. if it slowly increased and stayed at a higher temp, what would be your explanation?

Wouldn't be immediate in either direction.....refer to ideal gas laws

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Explain your position more fully. Are you saying that the temperature change would be the same whether the bolus of gas was plain air or CO2, or not?

Any gas heavier than air, greenhouse gas or not would produce warming varying of course on how much heavier than air the gas was. You really don't understand the phenomenon of heat of compression?
 
Yep, your cartoonist makes some nice graphs.....that's for sure. Funny how they can't seem to measure all that heat that is supposedly building up in the oceans.

Its the pretty colors. Idiots are easily fooled if pretty colors are involved.
 
Yep, your cartoonist makes some nice graphs.....that's for sure. Funny how they can't seem to measure all that heat that is supposedly building up in the oceans.

Empty nonsensical drivel. As usual from the walleyedretard.

Evidence Shows Global Heat May Be Hiding in Oceans
ClimateCentral
By Tim Radford, Climate News Network
November 30th, 2013
(excerpts)
LONDON – Far below the surface, the waters of south-east Asia are heating up. A region of the Pacific is now warming at least 15 times faster than at any time in the last 10,000 years. If this finding – so far limited to the depths where the Pacific and Indian Oceans wash into each other – is true for the blue planet as a whole, then the questions of climate change take on a new urgency. Yair Rosenthal of Rutgers University in New Brunswick and colleagues from the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University in New York, and at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, report in the journal Science that deep ocean warming could right now be taking much of the heat that meteorologists had expected to find in the atmosphere.

But records of ocean temperatures are patchy, and in any case date back only half a century. Rosenthal and his colleagues decided that they could reliably calculate a pattern of temperature changes by looking at a record of deposition through time. One little single-celled organism called Hyalinea balthica has evolved to live only at depths of 500 to 1,000 metres. H.balthica makes a microscopic shell, and when it dies, this shell falls to the ocean bottom. It takes the ingredients for the shell from the elements dissolved in the water around it, and the chemical mix available varies with temperature: the warmer the water, the greater the ratio of magnesium to calcium – and this difference is then recorded in the surviving shell. So the marine sediments around Indonesia preserve a thermal record of changes with time. The scientists studied ocean cores to “read” a pattern of climate change over the last 10,000 years, since the end of the Ice Age. So equipped with a reliable guide to change the scientists were able to make sense of the changes in the last 60 years. And they found that ocean temperatures, at such depths, had warmed 15 times faster in the last 60 years that they did during the natural warming cycles of the last 10,000.
 
CO2 is a greenhouse gas that absorbs heat energy that is trying to leave Earth and keeps it inside the atmosphere. That's established physics, CrazyFruitcake, and none of your dimwitted denial will change that.

Actually it isn't. It is a failed hypothesis. Damned near 20 years of no warming in spite of increasing atmospheric CO2

Really dumb. So when we get the next really big spike, you are going to claim that proves that CO2 is not responsible because the CO2 didn't increase that fast?
 
Yep, your cartoonist makes some nice graphs.....that's for sure. Funny how they can't seem to measure all that heat that is supposedly building up in the oceans.

Empty nonsensical drivel. As usual from the walleyedretard.

Evidence Shows Global Heat May Be Hiding in Oceans
ClimateCentral
By Tim Radford, Climate News Network
November 30th, 2013
(excerpts)
LONDON – Far below the surface, the waters of south-east Asia are heating up. A region of the Pacific is now warming at least 15 times faster than at any time in the last 10,000 years. If this finding – so far limited to the depths where the Pacific and Indian Oceans wash into each other – is true for the blue planet as a whole, then the questions of climate change take on a new urgency. Yair Rosenthal of Rutgers University in New Brunswick and colleagues from the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University in New York, and at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, report in the journal Science that deep ocean warming could right now be taking much of the heat that meteorologists had expected to find in the atmosphere.

But records of ocean temperatures are patchy, and in any case date back only half a century. Rosenthal and his colleagues decided that they could reliably calculate a pattern of temperature changes by looking at a record of deposition through time. One little single-celled organism called Hyalinea balthica has evolved to live only at depths of 500 to 1,000 metres. H.balthica makes a microscopic shell, and when it dies, this shell falls to the ocean bottom. It takes the ingredients for the shell from the elements dissolved in the water around it, and the chemical mix available varies with temperature: the warmer the water, the greater the ratio of magnesium to calcium – and this difference is then recorded in the surviving shell. So the marine sediments around Indonesia preserve a thermal record of changes with time. The scientists studied ocean cores to “read” a pattern of climate change over the last 10,000 years, since the end of the Ice Age. So equipped with a reliable guide to change the scientists were able to make sense of the changes in the last 60 years. And they found that ocean temperatures, at such depths, had warmed 15 times faster in the last 60 years that they did during the natural warming cycles of the last 10,000.





What "evidence" would that be? So far they have presented us with some cute graphs and NOTHING ELSE.
 
CO2 is a greenhouse gas that absorbs heat energy that is trying to leave Earth and keeps it inside the atmosphere. That's established physics, CrazyFruitcake, and none of your dimwitted denial will change that.

Actually it isn't. It is a failed hypothesis. Damned near 20 years of no warming in spite of increasing atmospheric CO2

Really dumb. So when we get the next really big spike, you are going to claim that proves that CO2 is not responsible because the CO2 didn't increase that fast?







We have spikes all the time. You ever going to get around to showing how these spikes are somehow different from the ones that occurred when the CO2 levels were low?
 
Actually it isn't. It is a failed hypothesis. Damned near 20 years of no warming in spite of increasing atmospheric CO2

Really dumb. So when we get the next really big spike, you are going to claim that proves that CO2 is not responsible because the CO2 didn't increase that fast?
We have spikes all the time. You ever going to get around to showing how these spikes are somehow different from the ones that occurred when the CO2 levels were low?

The spikes keep getting higher and the troughs don't go as low as they used to. It's hard to comprehend the depths of retardation and insanity you have to be in to not see the obvious. The Earth is rapidly warming up.

had4_v2_giss.png
 
CO2 is a greenhouse gas that absorbs heat energy that is trying to leave Earth and keeps it inside the atmosphere. That's established physics, CrazyFruitcake, and none of your dimwitted denial will change that.

Actually it isn't. It is a failed hypothesis. Damned near 20 years of no warming in spite of increasing atmospheric CO2

Really dumb. So when we get the next really big spike, you are going to claim that proves that CO2 is not responsible because the CO2 didn't increase that fast?

When the next increase comes we won't know the cause of it any more than we know the cause of the 2 decade long halt because all the money and resources have been wasted on the AGW hoax instead of actual research.
 
The spikes keep getting higher and the troughs don't go as low as they used to. It's hard to comprehend the depths of retardation and insanity you have to be in to not see the obvious. The Earth is rapidly warming up.

Its called coming out of an ice age goober...and a fraction of a degree in 100 years and a 20 year long stall is not rapid anything.. You can stop hysterically waving your hands now it just makes you look stupid.
 
Poor SSDD's pseudoscience is so loony, even the mainstream deniers don't want anything to do with it. These days, he's usually jabbering the kookery of the Sky Dragons from Principia Scientific International, a splitoff denier group so wacky that they've been banned from WUWT. Given the degree of craziness that WUWT embraces, getting banned there takes supersized insanity, stuff at the level of the "There's no such thing as backradiation!" conspiracy theories.
 
The difference between "4th warmest" and "10th warmest" is often nothing more than 0.05degC.
It's all "inside baseball" and based on convienient statistical spam.. Don't know how it even justifies BOLD FONT..

And I've noticed that when the GLOBAL MONTHLIES aren't in their favor, the warmers go and shift to USA MONTHLIES in order to post something encouraging to the worshippers. TinkerBelle did this on Page 1. Shift from the global stats to a NYTimes article whining about 2012 USA stats.

More vacuous than SportsTalk Radio at this point..
 
The spikes keep getting higher and the troughs don't go as low as they used to. It's hard to comprehend the depths of retardation and insanity you have to be in to not see the obvious. The Earth is rapidly warming up.
Its called coming out of an ice age goober...and a fraction of a degree in 100 years and a 20 year long stall is not rapid anything.. You can stop hysterically waving your hands now it just makes you look stupid.

No, wrong again, you poor ignorant retard. The Earth finished coming out of the last 'ice age' about 11,000 years ago and since then the world has been in an interglacial period. This has been pointed out to you many times previously but you continue to repeat this lie, making you either utterly retarded or a lying troll (or both).

Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53°F (0.85ºC) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (see page 3 of the IPCC's Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis, Summary for Policymakers). Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade.

There was no "20 year long stall", you deranged retard. The basic laws of physics combined with the direct satellite measurements of the incoming solar energy versus the amount of energy the Earth is radiating away into space demonstrates conclusively that the Earth has continued to receive more energy from the sun than it can shed into space, so the accumulation of heat has continued unabated. The oceans have always been absorbing over 90% of the solar energy the Earth receives but recently scientists have discovered that even more of the excess heat that the elevated levels of CO2 have been retaining has been going into the oceans and moving into even deeper ocean waters too. Even an apparent slowdown in the rate of (just) surface air temperature warming, based on the somewhat incomplete HadCRUT data, turned out to be the result of an underestimation of the speed with which the Arctic is heating up (see the first article in the list below).

Global warming since 1997 more than twice as fast as previously estimated, new study shows
13 November 2013

Global warming is unpaused and stuck on fast forward, new research shows
10 December 2013

Global warming continues with no slow down
March 27, 2013

Global Warming Is Rapidly Accelerating
12/31/2013

New Research Confirms Global Warming Has Accelerated
25 March 2013

Global Warming is Accelerating, but it's Still Groundhog Day at the Daily Mail
17 April 2013

In Hot Water: Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms
MARCH 25, 2013

UN: GLOBAL WARMING IS ACCELERATING, AND WITH DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES
July 3, 2013

Accelerated Warming Driving Arctic Into New Volatile State
December 5th, 2012

New Research Confirms Global Warming/Ocean Acidification Accelerating Faster Than Previously Thought
MAR 27, 2013

Global Warming Accelerating, Say Scientists
ABC News Video

GLOBALLY.....

* 2010 is tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record going back to the 1800s.

* The last decade was the hottest decade on record.

* All of the hottest years on record have occurred since 1998.

* The coldest years since 1998 are still hotter than all of the hottest years before 1998.

*This last November 2013, was THE hottest November on record globally.

* 2013 was the fourth hottest year on record.

* April 2014 was the 350th consecutive month with global average temperatures higher than the average temperatures for that month over the entire twentieth century.

* The Arctic ice cap is still rapidly melting away.

* Large areas northern permafrost are still rapidly melting.

* Greenland and Antarctica are still losing ice mass at increasing rates.

* The large majority of mountain glaciers are still rapidly melting and disappearing.

* Sea levels are still rising at an accelerating rate.


GLOBALLY....this is the actual temperature record.....

had4_v2_giss.png

Global temperature (annual values) in the data from NASA GISS (orange) and from Cowtan & Way (blue), i.e. HadCRUT4 with interpolated data gaps.
One can clearly see the extreme year 1998, which (thanks to the record-El Niño) stands out above the long-term trend like no other year. But even taking this outlier year as starting point, the linear trend 1998-2013 in all four data sets is positive. Also clearly visible is 2010 as the warmest year since records began, and the minima in the years 2008 and 2011/2012. But just like the peaks are getting higher, these minima are less and less deep.

(source: RealClimate)
 
Last post was EXCELLENT of the propaganda on this topic. It is a FACT, that measured surface temperatures have been relatively flat and stagnant for 15+ years. But there's so much "spin" and dancing on the topic that TinkerBelle can find all that DENIER education up there.

You are being lied to.. There are no complete and vetted excuses for the lack of significant increases in surface temperatures BECAUSE the models do not include sufficient components of the climate system.
OBVIOUSLY, if this was settled, the models would tell you how long this pause will last.. They don't.

This link for instance --- Global warming since 1997 more than twice as fast as previously estimated, new study shows.. --- is an example of the dishonest methods they will go to in order to get some media to give the public the IMPRESSION that global warming TODAY is greater than it was in the 90s.
The referenced study is a HACK job combining satellite data with the surface measurements. Never asked the question of why we just don't use the satellite record tho.. Because you can't FUCK with a single sensor to make a headline. That's why........................

It's diabolical.............
 
I agree with you about the Pause Flacaltenn, but I believe that the pause can be explained the same way as the 50s through the 70s pause was explained. China and India are pumping so much shit into the atmosphere that the incoming solar radiation doesn't make it into the climate system.

A case can also be made that the pdo has been moving energy around in a different way then in the 1990's.
 

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