Many Texas Schools Teach Creationism

[JakeStarkey]

g5000, man's imagination and evaluation of his universe from a humanities viewpoint is every bit as important as that from the scientific viewpoint.

The atheist and the fundamentalist can be equally dangerous to the welfare of humanity.

 

[kaz]

According to the Reading and Writing and Religion II a report by the Texas Freedom Network, many Texas children are being taught creationism including the myth that the earth is only 6,000 years old. So what do you think of this development? What should we do about it? Should creationism be taught in schools?

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I can't post a link right now because I don't have enough posts however a simple google search will provide you with enough sources.

It's better than teaching in favor of socialism and that capitalism is evil as government schools across the country do already

 

[JakeStarkey]

The atheist will certainly disagree with the implications of "The "Big Bang" was a Creationist Event. Nobody doubts that. Nobody."

 

[Surfer]

The atheist and the fundamentalist can be equally dangerous to the welfare of humanity.

Most Fundies are not dangerous to anyone but Satan. Most atheists are dangerous to everyone but Satan, their father/god.

 

[JakeStarkey]

According to the Reading and Writing and Religion II a report by the Texas Freedom Network, many Texas children are being taught creationism including the myth that the earth is only 6,000 years old. So what do you think of this development? What should we do about it? Should creationism be taught in schools?

Edit:
I can't post a link right now because I don't have enough posts however a simple google search will provide you with enough sources.

It's better than teaching in favor of socialism and that capitalism is evil as government schools across the country do already

That each system has its merits and its bad points is what universities teach.

 

[Edgetho]

The atheist will certainly disagree with the implications of "The "Big Bang" was a Creationist Event. Nobody doubts that. Nobody."

Which is why atheists are stupid.

The Big Bang was a Creationist Event.

Period.

And String Theory and 'M' Theory are dead ends.

The Big Bang was Creationist.

Now, who or what the "creator' was or is, can be the subject of honest debate.

But not that it was a Creationist event. That's just whistling past the graveyard

 

[JakeStarkey]

The atheist and the fundamentalist can be equally dangerous to the welfare of humanity.

Most Fundies are not dangerous to anyone but Satan. Most atheists are dangerous to everyone but Satan, their father/god.

Sure, they are. Puritans hanged quakers and old ladies among others. Mormons wiped out 120 immigrants in a wagon train. The number of Indians killed in the name of God are beyond counting. We are dealing with murderous Jihadists, and the tribes of Israel practiced genocide in hills of Judea.

Yup, both are dangerous.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Edgetho, the creationists believe that Big Bang was such an event. However, there is nothing behind the Idea of a Great Creator except philosophical constructs, which are . . . philosophical not empirical.

 

[g5000]

According to the Reading and Writing and Religion II a report by the Texas Freedom Network, many Texas children are being taught creationism including the myth that the earth is only 6,000 years old. So what do you think of this development? What should we do about it? Should creationism be taught in schools?

Edit:
I can't post a link right now because I don't have enough posts however a simple google search will provide you with enough sources.

It's better than teaching in favor of socialism and that capitalism is evil as government schools across the country do already

No, it isn't. Raising a whole new crop of retards is not a good thing in any way, shape, or form. You fools don't even realize you are sowing the seeds of your own destruction. It's a snowballing retardation effect!

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

From the link above: "Unfortunately, the evidence for this diaspora is a good deal less solid than the evidence for the flood itself. Linguists have long known how to reconstruct ancient languages by looking at words that have survived in the descendants of those languages today. The date of an event like the split-up of the Indo-European languages can then be estimated by comparing those words with artifacts found in excavations — a language probably won't have a word for "wheel," for example, unless it actually uses wheeled vehicles. "It is unlikely that the Indo-European languages split up before 3500 B.C. (that is, 2,000 years after the Black Sea flood)," says University of Chicago linguist Bill Darden, basing his conclusion on this sort of argument. If he and his colleagues are right, then the diaspora part of the flood story will be just another beautiful theory shot down by ugly facts.

Read more: Evidence for a Flood | Science & Nature | Smithsonian Magazine
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Local floods, sure. Regional floods, perhaps. Worldwide flood with Noah's Ark bobbing along, nope, no proof scientifically for that.

Interesting that there hasn't been any recorded trees in the world that date back further than 6000 years. That would provide one piece of evidence of world wide destruction of tree life and vegetation in coordinating with the Bible and the flood. Unless Guinness Book of Records is completely inaccurate.

The oldest age for a tree that has ever been recorded is approximately 5,200 years old. A bristlecone pine (Pinus longaeva) known as Prometheus was cut down from Mt Wheeler in Nevada, USA in 1963. Although 4,867 rings were counted, the tree was growing in a harsh ennvironment which slowed its development, and thus its actual age is believed to have been approximately 5,200 years old.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-1/oldest-tree-ever-documented/

 

[Edgetho]

No, the creationists believes that Big Bang was such an event. However, there is nothing behind the Idea of a Great Creator except philosophical constructs, which are . . . philosophical not empirical.

Then what caused the Big Bang? Happenstance?

Yeah, right. A PERFECT combination of atoms, molecules, elements, gravity, time, weak and strong nuclear and electromagnetism just happened to get together in an infinitely small, infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitely massive, infinitely powerful with infinite energy in a blob to explode with infinite fury in order to create a Perfect universe?

You got a real brain there, Sir Isaac.

 

[g5000]

No, the creationists believes that Big Bang was such an event. However, there is nothing behind the Idea of a Great Creator except philosophical constructs, which are . . . philosophical not empirical.

Then what caused the Big Bang? Happenstance?

Yeah, right. A PERFECT combination of atoms, molecules, elements, gravity, time, weak and strong nuclear and electromagnetism just happened to get together in an infinitely small, infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitely massive, infinitely powerful with infinite energy in a blob to explode with infinite fury in order to create a Perfect universe?

You got a real brain there, Sir Isaac.

Not knowing what caused the Big Bang is not evidence the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

Not knowing at this time what caused the Big Bang is not evidence of the existence of a Flying Spaghetti Monster which caused it.

That you even know there was a Big Bang is thanks to SCIENCE, not religion.

Insisting the Earth is only 6,000 years old is as ignorant as insisting the sun revolves around the Earth.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, the creationists believes that Big Bang was such an event. However, there is nothing behind the Idea of a Great Creator except philosophical constructs, which are . . . philosophical not empirical.

Then what caused the Big Bang? Happenstance?

Yeah, right. A PERFECT combination of atoms, molecules, elements, gravity, time, weak and strong nuclear and electromagnetism just happened to get together in an infinitely small, infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitely massive, infinitely powerful with infinite energy in a blob to explode with infinite fury in order to create a Perfect universe?

You got a real brain there, Sir Isaac.

My brain works better than yours: the answer is we don't know. So we have Theories, among them are Creationism and ID.

Evolution is not about first causes at all, but rather about how species evolve.

 

[ClosedCaption]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/308983-the-dangers-of-creationism.html

Remember when they said this wasn't being taught? Remember a week ago?

 

[g5000]

M-Theory has in recent years offered a plausible explanation for the Big Bang, by the way.

 

[Edgetho]

No, the creationists believes that Big Bang was such an event. However, there is nothing behind the Idea of a Great Creator except philosophical constructs, which are . . . philosophical not empirical.

Then what caused the Big Bang? Happenstance?

Yeah, right. A PERFECT combination of atoms, molecules, elements, gravity, time, weak and strong nuclear and electromagnetism just happened to get together in an infinitely small, infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitely massive, infinitely powerful with infinite energy in a blob to explode with infinite fury in order to create a Perfect universe?

You got a real brain there, Sir Isaac.

My brain works better than yours: the answer is we don't know. So we have Theories, among them are Creationism and ID.

Evolution is not about first causes at all, but rather about how species evolve.

You only wish your brain worked half as well as mine.

Outside that snark, I don't disagree with the rest.

There are things we don't know, there are things we can't know and there are things we will never know.

We don't even understand gravity yet, one of the four Fundamental Forces and people want to talk about how they're smarter than God?

Right.

Einstein believed in God. Although he didn't believe in a 'personal' God (like me) he believed in a Creator. Like me.

Sir Isaac Newton, whose shoes Einstein wasn't qualified to carry, believed in God.

Copernicus believed in God.

Mendel believed in God, Kepler believed in God, Galileo believed in God.....

Some pretty smart people.

Newton was so incredibly brilliant, he had to invent an entirely new Mathematical System (calculus) to prove his theories. He freaking INVENTED Physics.

But he was so stupid as to believe in God?

Right...

 

[DiamondDave]

M-Theory has in recent years offered a plausible explanation for the Big Bang, by the way.

No... it has offered plausible theories of things that happen even milliseconds after the big bang.. not during or before

 

[JakeStarkey]

Then what caused the Big Bang? Happenstance?

Yeah, right. A PERFECT combination of atoms, molecules, elements, gravity, time, weak and strong nuclear and electromagnetism just happened to get together in an infinitely small, infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitely massive, infinitely powerful with infinite energy in a blob to explode with infinite fury in order to create a Perfect universe?

You got a real brain there, Sir Isaac.

My brain works better than yours: the answer is we don't know. So we have Theories, among them are Creationism and ID.

Evolution is not about first causes at all, but rather about how species evolve.

You only wish your brain worked half as well as mine.

Outside that snark, I don't disagree with the rest.

There are things we don't know, there are things we can't know and there are things we will never know.

We don't even understand gravity yet, one of the four Fundamental Forces and people want to talk about how they're smarter than God?

Right.

Einstein believed in God. Although he didn't believe in a 'personal' God (like me) he believed in a Creator. Like me.

Sir Isaac Newton, whose shoes Einstein wasn't qualified to carry, believed in God.

Copernicus believed in God.

Mendel believed in God, Kepler believed in God, Galileo believed in God.....

Some pretty smart people.

Newton was so incredibly brilliant, he had to invent an entirely new Mathematical System (calculus) to prove his theories. He freaking INVENTED Physics.

But he was so stupid as to believe in God?

Right...

Your assumption about brain power is quite challengeable.

However, I did not challenge God's existence.

I clarified your statement. We don't know what caused the Big Bang, we don't know if it was by a Great Creator or by other causes.

And you knock down your assumption about whether it is stupid to believe in God.

I believe in God, but my faith is no evidence at all that God is the Big Bang creator.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Creationism is a theory like any other.

I don't see how a mention of it along with all the others is a problem.

Really is it so tough to say, "There are several theories regarding the inception of life on the planet and they are..."?

After all we do not know with any certainty how life began or how the universe came into being. All we have are theories.

 

[g5000]

We don't even understand gravity yet, one of the four Fundamental Forces and people want to talk about how they're smarter than God?

I don't see anyone saying they are smarter than God.

And there is much about gravity we do understand.