Many people rip Giuliani a new anal orifice

Nobody ripped Rudy a new ass.

This thread is merely an example of Statistkmange seeing what he wishes to see.

Some folks CRITICIZE Rudy, and since Statiskmange agrees, he "deems" it an ass reaming.

Back in the real world, however, Rudy was and is right.
 
Unlike Progressives, Rudy is allowed to speak his mind.

Progs insist on uniformity of thought and belief

Sure, he's free to speak his mind.

And be held accountable when he says something incredibly stupid.

You know, like not questioning how someone was raised when your Dad was a CONVICTED FELON!!!!

Because if dad had a criminal record, you learn the "values" of a life of crime? Funny. That didn't seem to have happened with Rudy.

But, reared as a communist by a weak ass father figure who was a communist and mentored by uncle Frank, an avowed communist, and studying the preachings of a shitheel like Saul Alinsky, Obumbler DOES seem to place far greater stock in criticizing America than in commenting positively (anywhere) about her many significant virtues.

I realize that you guys hate Mark Levin. Good. True words burn you like Holy Water on Regan MacNeil in The Exorcist. And Mark CORRECTLY noted that one does not seek to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE something one actually likes.
 
Unlike Progressives, Rudy is allowed to speak his mind.

Progs insist on uniformity of thought and belief

Sure, he's free to speak his mind.

And be held accountable when he says something incredibly stupid.

You know, like not questioning how someone was raised when your Dad was a CONVICTED FELON!!!!

Because if dad had a criminal record, you learn the "values" of a life of crime? Funny. That didn't seem to have happened with Rudy.

But, reared as a communist by a weak ass father figure who was a communist and mentored by uncle Frank, an avowed communist, and studying the preachings of a shitheel like Saul Alinsky, Obumbler DOES seem to place far greater stock in criticizing America than in commenting positively (anywhere) about her many significant virtues.

I realize that you guys hate Mark Levin. Good. True words burn you like Holy Water on Regan MacNeil in The Exorcist. And Mark CORRECTLY noted that one does not seek to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE something one actually likes.

Huh? THAT was fundamentally lame.
 
Clearly, the moonbat loons no longer support "Speaking Truth To Power".

On your knees, bois.
 
Unlike Progressives, Rudy is allowed to speak his mind.

Progs insist on uniformity of thought and belief

Sure, he's free to speak his mind.

And be held accountable when he says something incredibly stupid.

You know, like not questioning how someone was raised when your Dad was a CONVICTED FELON!!!!

Because if dad had a criminal record, you learn the "values" of a life of crime? Funny. That didn't seem to have happened with Rudy.

But, reared as a communist by a weak ass father figure who was a communist and mentored by uncle Frank, an avowed communist, and studying the preachings of a shitheel like Saul Alinsky, Obumbler DOES seem to place far greater stock in criticizing America than in commenting positively (anywhere) about her many significant virtues.

I realize that you guys hate Mark Levin. Good. True words burn you like Holy Water on Regan MacNeil in The Exorcist. And Mark CORRECTLY noted that one does not seek to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE something one actually likes.

Huh? THAT was fundamentally lame.

No. It was merely something that a dipshit like you cannot refute.
 
Fmr. Giuliani staffer wants to separate himself MSNBC

(Video at the link)

Addicting Info Former Staffer Calls Out Giuliani You Have Lost The Right To Call Yourself America s Mayor VIDEO

Abandoned by the party, even his former staffers appear to be distancing themselves.

Mike Paul was once EVP of communications for Giuliani, but he had nothing nice to say about his boss in an interview on MSNBC’s Hardball.

Speaking with Steve Kornacki, he called Giuliani’s ugly rhetoric an “abomination.” Furthermore, Paul felt that these comments attacking the sitting president of the United States, along with much of Giuliani’s actions in the decade since 9/11, meant that he can no longer claim to be “America’s mayor” – rather he only represents a fringe group of conservative extremists.


Wayne Barrett What Rudy Giuliani knows about love - NY Daily News

Rudy Giuliani knows a lot about love.

Ask Regina Peruggi, the second cousin he grew up with and married, who was "offended" when Rudy later engineered an annulment from the priest who was his best man on the grounds, strangely enough, that she was his cousin. Or ask Donna Hanover, the mother of his two children, who found out he wanted a separation when he left Gracie Mansion one morning and announced it at a televised press conference.

Or ask Judi Nathan, his third wife, whom he started dating while still married to Hanover and New York mayor. In two SUVs, he and an entourage of six or seven cops traveled 11 times to Judi's Hamptons getaway at a taxpayer cost of $3,000 a trip. That's love...


Yes, she was his second cousin.


More from the above link:

The onetime presidential candidate also revealed at the party that Obama "doesn't love America," an echo of a speech he'd delivered to delirious cheers in Arizona a week earlier when he declared: "I would go anywhere, any place, anytime, and I wouldn't give a damn what the President of the United States said, to defend my country. That's a patriot. That's a man who loves his people. That's a man who fights for his people. Unlike our President."

Rudy may have forgotten the half-dozen deferments he won ducking the Vietnam War, even getting the federal judge he was clerking for to write a letter creating a special exemption for him. And remember Bernie Kerik? He's the Giuliani police commissioner, business partner and sidekick whose nomination as homeland security secretary narrowly preceded indictments. He then did his national service in prison.

Giuliani went so far as to rebuke the President for not being "brought up the way you were and the way I was brought up through love of this country," a bow no doubt to the parenting prowess of Harold Giuliani, who did time in Sing Sing for holding up a Harlem milkman and was the bat-wielding enforcer for the loan-sharking operation run out of a Brooklyn bar owned by Rudy's uncle.

Though Rudy cited Harold throughout his public life as his model (without revealing any of his history), he and five Rudy uncles found ways to avoid service in World War II. Harold, whose robbery conviction was in the name of an alias, made sure the draft board knew he was a felon...

...Rudy also said Obama is "more of a critic than he is a supporter of America," an odd admonition coming from a security salesman who told a Tijuana audience of consulting clients in October: "America needs to stop lecturing other countries and start working on how to stop drug use in its citizens," shifting the onus for the Mexican drug trade onto us. He's a consultant in Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, the very countries where right-wing governments, traffickers and/or gangs are driving children and teenagers across the U.S. border.

He was a consultant for the government of Qatar, the country his friend and FBI director Louis Freeh accused of hiding 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed before the attack. That's the ultimate triumph of money over memory, since he's still talking, as recently as a week ago, about the 10 friends and 343 firefighters he lost on 9/11.

While Giuliani finds Obama's rhetoric insufficiently pro-American, his 2012 RNC speech was filled with catchphrases like Obama's "a complete and absolute failure," and he just branded the President "a moron" in his Arizona invocation of Neville Chamberlain at Munich, all of it presumably a new form of nationalist celebration. In 2012, Rudy even blasted Obama, without a glance in the mirror, for "attempting to exploit" the killing of Osama Bin Laden, calling it "disgusting."


Oh, and here's the admission form for his father to Sing-Sing:

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It's so bad that even Newsmax (a right wing rag) is also ripping Giuliani:

As Giuliani Stands by Obama Claim Others Warn of Stupid Slurs

Giuliani's comments left Scarborough wondering if the nation is "really going to go through another cycle where Republican candidates are too stupid to get out of the way of the stupidest people in their party, that keep them from winning presidential elections by spewing hatred, instead of telling people how they're going to get back to work," he said.



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So, let me get this straight:

this man, Rudy Giuliani, who has been married three times, once to a cousin, once having announced his upcoming divorce to his second wife on TV without having even informed her, while already dating his future third wife - is attacking our President. So much for Republican "family values". Imagine how the Right were to scream were our President to have three different wives and have divorced the second the way Giuliani did. Here's some more as to how nasty his divorce was. I'm beginning to think that Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich both went to the same school of "family values".

And this man, Rudy Giuliani, whose father (and some of Rudy's uncles as well) was a felon, for 3rd degree robbery, also using a false name - is attacking the way that Obama was brought up.

And this man, Rudy Giuliani, who has deep ties to both Mexico and Quatar (the country accused of mastermining the 911 attacks) - and he questions President Obama's patriotism, love for and loyalty to our country.

The man is a true asshole. I kind of wish he were to become the 2016 GOP nominee, for Hillary would tear him apart, as in, 60-40 tear-up.

It is no wonder that the vast majority of the Republican Party is running away from Rudy Giuliani, for he has crossed a line that no one should cross.

Stellar work, Stat. Great stuff. Giuliani is just doing what Sarah Palin does all the time: trying to stay relevant.
 
Because if dad had a criminal record, you learn the "values" of a life of crime? Funny. That didn't seem to have happened with Rudy.

I think he did learn how to be a bully and a thug.

But, reared as a communist by a weak ass father figure who was a communist and mentored by uncle Frank, an avowed communist, and studying the preachings of a shitheel like Saul Alinsky, Obumbler DOES seem to place far greater stock in criticizing America than in commenting positively (anywhere) about her many significant virtues.

You know, given the fact that he saved the Auto Industry and Wall Street is hitting RECORD highs today, it seems that Obama isn't doing a very good job at this whole "Communism" thing.

I realize that you guys hate Mark Levin. Good. True words burn you like Holy Water on Regan MacNeil in The Exorcist. And Mark CORRECTLY noted that one does not seek to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE something one actually likes.

No, they try to fundementally change things that can be made better. Frankly, that's something we should all strive for. everything can always be made a little better.
 
Because if dad had a criminal record, you learn the "values" of a life of crime? Funny. That didn't seem to have happened with Rudy.

I think he did learn how to be a bully and a thug.

But, reared as a communist by a weak ass father figure who was a communist and mentored by uncle Frank, an avowed communist, and studying the preachings of a shitheel like Saul Alinsky, Obumbler DOES seem to place far greater stock in criticizing America than in commenting positively (anywhere) about her many significant virtues.

You know, given the fact that he saved the Auto Industry and Wall Street is hitting RECORD highs today, it seems that Obama isn't doing a very good job at this whole "Communism" thing.

I realize that you guys hate Mark Levin. Good. True words burn you like Holy Water on Regan MacNeil in The Exorcist. And Mark CORRECTLY noted that one does not seek to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE something one actually likes.

No, they try to fundementally change things that can be made better. Frankly, that's something we should all strive for. everything can always be made a little better.

Rudy may have learned to use some governmental power, but there's no evidence that being powerful makes him a "thug" or a "bully." Your rhetoric is cheap and baseless, but as usual, unpersuasive.

There is no such "fact" as your mere (silly) CLAIM that Obumbler "saved" the auto industry OR Wall Street.
And Neither Rudy nor I asserted that Obumbler IS a "communist." He was reared by and preached to about the evils of our society BY communists, however, and those lessons appear to have stuck. Try to stick to the actual topic, there, josey.

And finally, what your dear leader said was that he sought to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America. He did NOT say that he sought to fundamentally change things that can be made better. Nice effort at spin, but entirely fictional of you.
 
Obumbler said (five days before the election): "we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America." (EDIT: See LINK, at bottom of post.)

He even went on to "explain for HIMSELF" the fundamental changes he had in mind, at that time: "In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor." (EDIT: See LINK, at bottom of post.)

The fundamental change he envisioned, and whet he himself said he was talking about was investing in our middle class. Nice hollow words, but what has Obumbler DONE to advance that cheap theater tag line?

What "policies" exactly placed greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street ahead of hard work and sacrifice on Main Street? Again, lots of empty words. No fucking concrete action.

From many (MANY) of the OTHER things Obumbler pontificated about (including what he said overseas about America), it is crystal clear that he was merely spinning like a damn top anyway. The FUNDAMENTAL change the "transformation" he sought involved making America very different. We were (in his estimation) to imperial and too avaricious.

Don't believe me? Then educate yourself. Look at what the guy SAID.

EDIT: the quotes above came from: In context What Obama said about fundamentally transforming the nation PolitiFact
 
There is an interesting (albeit partial) list of Obumbler apologies from the past:

Barack Obama s Top 10 Apologies How the President Has Humiliated a Superpower

I don't even completely disagree with all of what he said. Much of it, sure. But that's not the point. It is one thing to confess to past imperfections. Who is perfect? It is another thing to constantly wallow in his compulsive need to apologize for wherever and whenever we have fallen short of our ideals. I maintain that kind of "thinking" of his goes hand in hand with his desire to "fundamentally transform" America.
 
Oh STFU.

Morbid obesity is the problem, a hungry kid in America is one that did not get a 2 liter Coke and a pint or two of Hagen-Dazs, paid for by "foodstamps", before going to bed.

I would really like to see you feed a family of four on what a Food Stamp family gets.

Poverty Statistics Food Insecurity Fact Sheet Feeding America

The Maximum SNAP Benefits of a family of four is $649.00 a month. That comes out to $25.00 a day. Now, I would be truly impressed if you can provide three meals a day to a family of four with $25.00.

I could have steak every night for dinner for that much money. How much does a couple of eggs for breakfast cost? About $0.50. How much does a Bologna sandwich cost for lunch? Maybe another $0.50. How much does a whole chicken friar, some rice and some carrots cost for dinner? Less than $10.00, and that will feed an entire family of four.
 
Lol. It must eat you up inside that someone actually criticized Obama. You have to delve into his love life, and his father's prison record (as if it made Rudy guilty for any of it) for your argument. Face it. He's right. Obama does not love America, else he wouldn't want to 'fundamentally transform' it. Too many people like you are blind to the fact.
There's a difference between criticizing a politician for what they've done or not done. It's insanity to call the President someone who doesn't love America. Disagreeing with policies does not equal not loving America.......unless you're a crazy.
 
I think history will remember Giuliani as a tragic figure.

Far from it. It's only tragic that liberals such as yourself view dissent as an attack on Obama, while considering criticism against Bush to be justified. Tragic indeed.


His comments this past week make him look like an angry, bitter old man. The backlash against him is far and wide, including people who've worked for him now who are disassociating with him.

His comments echo what many Americans believe. Many Americans have no faith in government anymore, and Obama doesn't help. Stat listed only three people who disassociated with him, yet he believes that constituted the entire Republican party.

The death threats Giuliani received after making those comments were angry and bitter liberals who couldn't bear the thought of Obama ever being taken down a peg by someone like Rudy.


The lesson here of course is that "people who live in glass houses should not throw stones".

Sure. But why go after him when Obama was questioning Bush's patriotism at a campaign event? The lesson here is, "turnabout is fair play."

He's now a laughing stock because on top of knowing already that he was a draft dodger in the 60's, we've found out that his father and 5 uncles all committed crimes in order to skip having to serve in WWII.

Funny though, you have to insult his entire lineage to have an argument. Low down and dirty if you ask me. Why does his lineage matter? Holding him responsible for the crimes of his father and uncles is despicable.


It has since hurt him since 9/11 that he made the boneheaded decision to put the city's emergency command center IN the Trade Towers. It was impressed upon him by anyone with brains that it should have been put ANYWHERE else but there, but no, Giuliani ignored the experts.

The experts weren't the one risking their lives to save lives in those towers.


We all thought he was being brave by walking the streets, but later realized it was because he had no headquarters to go to.

He is brave. You are a coward.
 
Lol. It must eat you up inside that someone actually criticized Obama. You have to delve into his love life, and his father's prison record (as if it made Rudy guilty for any of it) for your argument. Face it. He's right. Obama does not love America, else he wouldn't want to 'fundamentally transform' it. Too many people like you are blind to the fact.
What he sought to "transform" was opportunity. If you read his quote in context, he wanted to give lower class more opportunity to succeed in America. To state that he does not love America because of that is ludicrous.
 
Oh STFU.

Morbid obesity is the problem, a hungry kid in America is one that did not get a 2 liter Coke and a pint or two of Hagen-Dazs, paid for by "foodstamps", before going to bed.

I would really like to see you feed a family of four on what a Food Stamp family gets.

Poverty Statistics Food Insecurity Fact Sheet Feeding America

The Maximum SNAP Benefits of a family of four is $649.00 a month. That comes out to $25.00 a day. Now, I would be truly impressed if you can provide three meals a day to a family of four with $25.00.
You stupid fuck, do you know what the "S" in SNAP stands for?

I raised a family of FIVE on a Hell of a lot lest than $649.00 a month, and there was NO supplement from the government.

Can't the dependent class be expected to provide ANY of their own needs?

And don't forget the free breakfast and lunch these kids get, if their parents bother to send them to school.
 
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For those who defend Giuliani with the logic that one doesn't love America if they seek to fundamentally transform it ... by your own logic, Ronald Reagan didn't love America...

"I'm confident with the facts before them, the American people will understand the need for the changes that we'll propose next week. And this audit shows us that our actions must put the nation on a fundamentally different course." - Ronald Reagan
 
His comments echo what many Americans believe. Many Americans have no faith in government anymore, and Obama doesn't help. Stat listed only three people who disassociated with him, yet he believes that constituted the entire Republican party.

The death threats Giuliani received after making those comments were angry and bitter liberals who couldn't bear the thought of Obama ever being taken down a peg by someone like Rudy.

You lied.

Please point to the posting where I said that this constitutes the entire Republican Party.

We can wait.
 

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