Mankeeping

[braalian]

Feminists have demanded economic equality for women, but women want mates that make more money than them.

This is an idiocy that sets them, even their whole society up for failure.

The other side to that is that most guys do not want to be in a relationship where they make less than the woman. It’s emasculating.

 

[Correll]

The other side to that is that most guys do not want to be in a relationship where they make less than the woman. It’s emasculating.

True. But I suspect that the majority of this impact is from the women's side.

Men might want that, but I suspect they can get over it.

 

[initforme]

True. But I suspect that the majority of this impact is from the women's side.

Men might want that, but I suspect they can get over it.

If they cant then i hopr theybremain very lonelhy. The premise is hilarious.

 

[Correll]

If they cant then i hopr theybremain very lonelhy. The premise is hilarious.

Feminists have demanded economic equality for women, but women want mates that make more money than them.

This is an idiocy that sets them, even their whole society up for failure.

 

[initforme]

Feminists have demanded economic equality for women, but women want mates that make more money than them.

This is an idiocy that sets them, even their whole society up for failure.

So be it. Nothing lost.

 

[Correll]

So be it. Nothing lost.

But there is. They set up a goal for themselves, that is not realistic.

So they fail. They end up failing to find a mate and thus end up without children, and alone.

AND the men who they would have found, if they were not being misled, are also fucked.


That is a LOT lost.

Oh, and the lost to society of those people that are not born.

Your buddy midnight fm, has been gloating like a marxist at the idea of "Culling" hte white population from America.


Lefties are vile.

 

[braalian]

If they cant then i hopr theybremain very lonelhy. The premise is hilarious.

It’s human nature

 

[Correll]

It’s human nature

Lefties don't care. They get off on the idea of men geting fucked.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Lefties don't care. They get off on the idea of men geting fucked.

Correction: Lefties get off on the idea of white men getting fucked.

 

[MayorQuimby]

True. But I suspect that the majority of this impact is from the women's side.

Men might want that, but I suspect they can get over it.

I can't say this for sure because I am not a man, but I don't think guys would care that much if their wife makes than they do, as long as she doesn't rub it in their face about it. If she is just as sweet and loving as the next woman, having more money to spend in the household is always a good thing.

 

[Midnight FM]

All living, procreating populations strive for replacement.

Doesn't matter. If a population becomes excessively large, downsizing can be a good thing.

The stats show men don't like women who hate men. Did you know that?

You've failed to substantiate the entirety of what can be described as "feminism" is about "hating men". Just "saying it" doesn't make it true.

Filipino women love their men. Get it now?

No evidence of that. I doubt you know a single Filipino woman, or know what goes on behind closed doors between Filipino women and their spouses. Stop with the cliches.

And there's no statistical evidence showing that a significant percentage of American men are dating or marrying Filipino women. They aren't. They're still dating or marrying American women.

 

[Midnight FM]

I dated my share of “modern” women over the years. Never for long, because just weren’t compatible, but they were around.

No, I’m not important. I’m just your average, every day, traditional guy who was raised with morals and values.

Bad and outdated ones.

It’s not about wanting or not wanting to provide. As a man thst is proper place in the world. Just as my wife has her role, I have mine. Things she is totally within her rights to expect from me.

I was never going to be the big shot. Not my personality or desire. I’m happy being the working stiff. Middle of the road. I can provide things for her that she can’t for herself. She can provide things for me that I can’t for myself. That sounds like a goood partnership to me.

The point is if you want her to view you as a substitute for Medicare or Medicaid that isn't encouraging.

If she just views you as a source of income, then there's nothing stopping her from kicking you to the curb when she meets someone who has higher income. It sounds like you want her to have to unnecessarily depend on you because you're insecure.

If a person had some source of income and independence, then they would be less likely to view someone else as an income stream, and would be at liberty to be with someone because they actually value that person for who they are.

So no, your outdated view on what men and women should do or are capable of doing doesn't hold water, and I'm not going to tolerate it. If you resent women who are successful at something, and they've always been around, even if you went as far back as ancient Greece, then you're insecure, plain and simple.

 

[Midnight FM]

The other side to that is that most guys do not want to be in a relationship where they make less than the woman. It’s emasculating.

I doubt there are any statistics which substantiate that. If someone is insecure about whether they make more or less than someone else, that's on them.

Japan has been going through this for years. Men are more self centered and not interested in women or relationships. They call them grass eaters.

Of course in this country, there are tradwives that snap up the eligible men.

Statistically, only a minority of men are going to be "not interested in women" in any given period of time. So I'm simply not buying your fearmongering, or your apparent inability to accept that a decline in population may be a good thing, given, for example, how excessively large the population has gotten in recent years compared to what it was just 100 years ago.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yep. All beautifully said. However if the marriage fails? Then what? Folk of your ilk never consider this because in your little tiny pathetic illbegotten sick world divorce never happens. Right?

Here is where again you make a fool of yourself.
I divorced my first wife after the two kids went to college.
It was a loveless/sexless marriage for a long ass time. But I was not going to be a weekend Dad. That was a massive sacrifice, but I would do it again.
I will go to my death bed knowing I was a very good father. I remarried a woman in 2017. And we are doing very well. Because we both understand the basic philosophy that if you put your efforts into taking care of the other - everyone is taken care of.

 

[Correll]

...
I will go to my death bed knowing I was a very good father. I remarried a woman in 2017. ...

THAT'S the kind of shit that gives life meaning.

I remember when my mom was in the old folks high rise. I would visit and talk to her and her friends.

They sat around and talked about their grandchildren, their legacies.

I never heard one of hte say jack shit about the jobs they used to have. Discussions, hell STATUS in their little community was all based on the stories they had of their grandchildren.


My mom, with only two kids, was kind of... low on that totem pole. BUT, me and my wife, we had our kids fairly late so, my moms, grandchild was still a baby and we brought her to visit.

My mom went from low man to rock star, when we did that. I recall one visit, where she was sitting at this table in the community room, having coffee with her friends, sitting in the center of the table with a woman that had 67 descendants.

It was a great time. For everyone involved. The old folks loved our visits. My mom loved them. My child, loved the attention. I loved making my mom so happy.

 

[Anathema]

Bad and outdated ones

They worked for most of the western world for thousands of years, still have to respectfully disagree.

The point is if you want her to view you as a substitute for Medicare or Medicaid that isn't encouraging.

If she just views you as a source of income, then there's nothing stopping her from kicking you to the curb when she meets someone who has higher income. It sounds like you want her to have to unnecessarily depend on you because you're insecure.

If a person had some source of income and independence, then they would be less likely to view someone else as an income stream, and would be at liberty to be with someone because they actually value that person for who they are

It’s not that I’m a substitute for those programs… my family just doesn’t take Government money. Especially not from programs we believe to be immoral and unconstitutional.

What’s stopping her from kicking me to the curb is that she has no capability to support herself and her family without me. She never did. As for meeting someone else… she’s scared to answer the phone half the time, and rarely leaves the house due to her PTSD, so I’m not sure how that would happen. If she did find someone better, go for it.

So no, your outdated view on what men and women should do or are capable of doing doesn't hold water, and I'm not going to tolerate it. If you resent women who are successful at something, and they've always been around, even if you went as far back as ancient Greece, then you're insecure, plain and simple

I don’t resent modern women… they disgust me… just as they would have in Ancient Greece or anywhere. Else in history. I have no use for a partner who is going to challenge me. I do my best to live in a zero drama world and modern women are nothing but drama.

 

[initforme]

Here is where again you make a fool of yourself.
I divorced my first wife after the two kids went to college.
It was a loveless/sexless marriage for a long ass time. But I was not going to be a weekend Dad. That was a massive sacrifice, but I would do it again.
I will go to my death bed knowing I was a very good father. I remarried a woman in 2017. And we are doing very well. Because we both understand the basic philosophy that if you put your efforts into taking care of the other - everyone is taken care of.

I am sincerely happy yhings worked out for you. I am also that as a father i demanded my kids go onto college upon graduation. Had my daughter gone the old route of get married, have kids, in her early 20s she would have been in a world of hurt when her husband left. Instead, she had that degree, which allowed her to make a good wage with good insurance.

I cannot fathom there are people here who would say she should have married at 22, with no further education, instead of 29 with the skillset to take care of herself in the event she would need to. Thats just pigheaded and ignorant. Theres nothing wrong with preparing for all scenarios. She would have ended up either having to go to college while raising her daughter and working. Thats a bad place to be.

 

[Anathema]

I cannot fathom there are people here who would say she should have married at 22, with no further education, instead of 29 with the skillset to take care of herself in the event she would need to. Thats just pigheaded and ignorant. Theres nothing wrong with preparing for all scenarios. She would have ended up either having to go to college while raising her daughter and working. Thats a bad place to be.

Fathom it, because there are folks like me who absolutely do believe that. That situation is what families… parents, grandparents, siblings, etc… are for; to take care of those family members who are in hard times until they are able to get back on their feet. Thst family is also there to hopefully make sure the guy she married at 22 isn’t leaving her at 29.

 

[initforme]

Fathom it, because there are folks like me who absolutely do believe that. That situation is what families… parents, grandparents, siblings, etc… are for; to take care of those family members who are in hard times until they are able to get back on their feet. Thst family is also there to hopefully make sure the guy she married at 22 isn’t leaving her at 29.

The "family" cant do squat about a person walking away. They cant hold someone hostage. So, with that, i strongly believe that her achieving thatbdegree first was far and away a better scenario than getting married at 22, in every single aspect. As a father i am proud of my mandate that she had to attend college for further education. It made her life so much better.

 

[Anathema]

The "family" cant do squat about a person walking away. They cant hold someone hostage. So, with that, i strongly believe that her achieving thatbdegree first was far and away a better scenario than getting married at 22, in every single aspect. As a father i am proud of my mandate that she had to attend college for further education. It made her life so much better.

What the family can do is help her recognize the traits of a man who might walk away. It’s not a perfect solution but it helps.

As a married man, I would never have even considered seriously dating a woman with career aspirations or goals and a college degree. With that background she can’t have both feet in the marriage… one foot is already out the door.