Manchin can be gotten to ,

[jbander]

He'll then switch parties, and the Dems will lose control of the Senate.
Thus, they won't do this.

You threaten his coal money and he will just ask how high when you tell him to jump.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You threaten his coal money and he will just ask how high when you tell him to jump.

Or... more likely...
He'll then switch parties, and the Dems will lose control of the Senate.
Thus, they won't do this.

 

[jbander]

What Biden should do:

Recreate the 'Build Back Better' bill exactly as he wants it.

Tell Schumer and Pelosi to bring it and the 'bipartisan' bill up for a vote in whatever order they'd like.

Coordinating with the DNC and the appropriate State and local Democratic parties:

Tell Machin, Sinema, and the 'Progressive Caucus' that anyone who votes against either of these bills will be ejected from the Democratic party. They will be primaried if they try to run as a democrat again, and if possible they will be recalled ASAP.

Biden's Presidency and his legacy depend on these Bills. Biden should stop taking shit from these piss-ant morons.

actually I agree with you, but I also I think Biden is looking at history and sees how these programs build once set in concrete.

 

[Burgermeister]

Not trying to get anyone, Chao served in other republican administrations in the dept of transportation. She was well qualified.

Elaine Chao - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Terrible appointment. She’s got family ties to Chinese business directly affected by transportation policies. Tons of conflict, plus if Trump thought that would him with McConnell he was wrong. McConnell worked against him the whole time.

 

[jbander]

Or... more likely...
He'll then switch parties, and the Dems will lose control of the Senate.
Thus, they won't do this.

You can't read, if he switches party you promise the down fall of coal with every aspect and force of the democratic party. You don't seem to get this , it is just not that complicated.

 

[jbander]

Not what nazi palousey said yesterday, are you calling the bitch a liar?

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There is no bill yet and she said it was close ace , try to follow along.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You can't read, if he switches party you promise the down fall of coal with every aspect...

Losing control of the Senate will hurt the Democrats more than the Democrats - who will not have control of the Senate - can hurt him.
You don't seem to get this , it is just not that complicated.

 

[Lesh]

Or... more likely...
He'll then switch parties, and the Dems will lose control of the Senate.
Thus, they won't do this.

It is a dance. But the slim majority only allows having the heads of committees and majority leader to be Dem. it does help get progressive judges nominated but legislation?

Not so much.

On the other hand Manchin is nowhere near conservative enough to get elected as a Republican and he knows that

 

[M14 Shooter]

It is a dance. But the slim majority only allows having the heads of committees and majority leader to be Dem.

Psst.... That's "control of the senate" - by the majority party.
The majority party decides what legislation comes up for a vote and, at worst, what lgislation doesn't get passed.

On the other hand Manchin is nowhere near conservative enough to get elected as a Republican and he knows that

Manchin is popular in WV and will likely get elected regardlss of party.

 

[OKTexas]

You are boring , you are done. no one trys to prove a point with Hannilty.com That's total insanity.

I'm sure you're the expert on insanity, you belong in a rubber room, so does this thread.

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[Lesh]

Psst.... That's "control of the senate" - by the majority party.
The majority party decides what legislation comes up for a vote and, at worst, what lgislation doesn't get passed.

Manchin is popular in WV and will likely get elected regardlss of party.

No legislation.

The filibuster means 60 votes are required since Republicans invoke it on everything they can and both Manchin and Sinema refuse to do away with it… even a carve out for voting rights

 

[M14 Shooter]

No legislation.
The filibuster means 60 votes are required since Republicans invoke it on everything they can

But not as often as the Democrats.
During the 2019-2020 Congressional term, a record-breaking 328 filibusters were recorded with Democrats in the minority.
Since 2009, 657 filibusters were recorded under Democratic minorities while 609 filibusters were recorded under Republican minorities.

Fact Brief : Did Democrats make record use of the filibuster in the last Congress? | Gigafact

YES, The filibuster, which allows the Senate minority party to block legislation by refusing to end debate, has been used by both Democrats and Republicans, almost always while occupying the Senate minorit

repustar.com

and both Manchin and Sinema refuse to do away with it… even a carve out for voting rights

Notihng here changes the fact the senate majority chooses what legislation comes up for a vote and what legislation will not pass.
This is why the Dems do not want to lose control of the Senate , and thus, why they won't threaten Manchin

 

[jbander]

I'm sure you're the expert on insanity, you belong in a rubber room, so does this thread.

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I guess I have to remind you, you don't exist.

 

[jbander]

But not as often as the Democrats.
During the 2019-2020 Congressional term, a record-breaking 328 filibusters were recorded with Democrats in the minority.
Since 2009, 657 filibusters were recorded under Democratic minorities while 609 filibusters were recorded under Republican minorities.

Fact Brief : Did Democrats make record use of the filibuster in the last Congress? | Gigafact

YES, The filibuster, which allows the Senate minority party to block legislation by refusing to end debate, has been used by both Democrats and Republicans, almost always while occupying the Senate minorit

repustar.com

Notihng here changes the fact the senate majority chooses what legislation comes up for a vote and what legislation will not pass.
This is why the Dems do not want to lose control of the Senate , and thus, why they won't threaten Manchin

Filibusters during the Trump presidency don't count, they were by the only patriots left in this country, The democrats and they were to save our democracy but even then the hate party got around that and tried to bring down our demacracy to force in a piece of shit for a dictator on Jan 6th. The dem should have used it more often with scum bag. How mindless and controled the hate party is. they filibustered just once during the Trump presidency. Zombie politicians.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Filibusters during the Trump presidency don't count, they were by the only patriots left in this country,

Ah. You reject reality.
Good to know.

 

[Godboy]

He cares about nothing but his bottom line , so what you do is simply ,under the table ,say that the democratic party will go after coal non stop if he doesn't play along with the dems. He doesn't care about any issues other then just how much he can make with his coal company. You threaten that and he will start talking as a democrat and not a dictator or Republican. Best thing we could do for the environment is dump coal completely anyway. So America and democrats can't lose, and can only gain by doing it anyway.

You arent getting rid of coal. Thats absurd.

 

[two_iron]

dems are brown shirts while your hate group tried to bring down our demacracy to force in a piece of shit for a dictator. you can't make this shit up.

But you just did.

The irony is lost on you, an unemployable marxist cock holster, but the rest of us are laughing and pointing at you.

 

[jbander]

You arent getting rid of coal. Thats absurd.

Just look around the world idiot.

 

[jbander]

You arent getting rid of coal. Thats absurd.

Production of coal in the US was decreased more then 50% from 2010 to 2020. In just 10 years.

 

[Godboy]

Just look around the world idiot.

Yeah, China uses the fuck out of it and they arent going to stop.