Man Made Global Warming strikes again this weekend.

[Robert W]

Silly ass, it may be extremely cold where you are at, but where I am at it has been a very warm January, and looks to be a very warm February, also.

Actually, climate is not global at all. The eastern part of the USA has gone back to days of 25 years (est) back to record days of the past. Europe as well and other vast areas are cold. Rather than call the areas, global cooling, the media mainly is silent. I like to use Death Valley to illustrate. Death Valley is the world record setter in heat events. Its records dates to 1913, not currently. It is ideal for a valley to be hot. But it is actually running in the 120s and not the 130s, so we are safe I believe.

In 2025, the hottest temperature recorded in Death Valley was 124 °F, which occurred three different times throughout the year. Additionally, there was a significant heatwave reported, indicating extreme temperatures during that period.

 

[Robert W]

Silly ass, it may be extremely cold where you are at, but where I am at it has been a very warm January, and looks to be a very warm February, also.

I am also in Oregon. We have not had much snow, so you made a decent claim. But we are not the coldest part of the USA.

I am leaving Oregon this summer to live in Hawaii. We can't compare Oregon or Hawaii to the bulk of the USA.

 

[EMH]

First you claim SAP never changes.

No, the claim is that Earth has a STANDARD surface air pressure at sea level out to 6 digits and that has held for decades if not centuries. EMH has never denied your obsession with trying to change the subject from

PLANETARY SAP to "local weather bullshit."

Then you claim it's highest in January.

Earth has a very slightly elliptical orbit that is closest to Sun in January = Earth warmest in January = SAP rises a bit in January.




When an entire planet warms, its surface air pressure rises.

Sincerely,

Mars
Pluto
Earth


and you don't have one single planet that refutes...

 

[EMH]

Tommy is armed with facts.

Until he parrots "interglacials," and then he joins CO2 FRAUD doing so....

 

[EMH]

Silly ass, it may be extremely cold where you are at, but where I am at it has been a very warm January, and looks to be a very warm February, also.

How can a planet that has "warmed" for 150 years have RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES?

 

[EMH]

we really don't know what the long term affects endlessly adding GHG's to atmosphere will be

Yes we do. We know that "greenhouse gasses" is complete BS, that adding CO2 to atmosphere hasn't warmed anything.

Sincerely,

satellites
balloons
surface air pressure

 

[EMH]

climate is not global at all.

for the subject of Earth Climate Change, yes it is global. Shift an ocean current and Cape Cod gets colder, somewhere else gets warmer, but EARTH CLIMATE, the climate of the entire planet, doesn't change at all.

 

[EMH]

Europe as well and other vast areas are cold

Every single piece of ice on Europe has been melting for millions of years, as Europe moves further away from North Pole.

 

[wamose]

Why do I have to explain this to you every single time this kinda thing happens?

Do you have serious memory issues or are you being willfully stupid?

Anyway, here goes, yet again:

Global warming weakens the Jetstream. the stream is what keep all the arctic cold air in the artic. When the Jetstream weakens is can bend and flex more than usual letting the cold down from the artic into the temperate zones.

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Need more help or have you got it finally?

Your explanation negates your claim of MMGW. If our jet stream gets weakened and that allows arctic air to move further to the south, that would cause global cooling, not global warming. Nice try

 

[DGS49]

For those with any perspective at all, the debate on climate change is simply this: Should we spend mountains of REAL MONEY today, in the hope that it will have some SPECULATIVE BENEFIT in a hundred years?

Or is the more prudent path to try for efficiency, clean air, water, and ground (CO2 is NOT "pollution") today, and presume that humanity will devise engineering solutions in the future to deal with with the actual effects of climate change as they occur? Have the people of, say Netherlands, dealt adequately with rising seas? Of course. Same for New Orleans, Venice, and NYC.

"We" can deal with whatever comes when it comes. Always have.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, the claim is that Earth has a STANDARD surface air pressure at sea level out to 6 digits and that has held for decades if not centuries. EMH has never denied your obsession with trying to change the subject from

PLANETARY SAP to "local weather bullshit."





Earth has a very slightly elliptical orbit that is closest to Sun in January = Earth warmest in January = SAP rises a bit in January.




When an entire planet warms, its surface air pressure rises.

Sincerely,

Mars
Pluto
Earth


and you don't have one single planet that refutes...

No, the claim is that Earth has a STANDARD surface air pressure at sea level out to 6 digits and that has held for decades if not centuries.

So, you say. And yet every single measurement at every single location fluctuates every single day.

Earth has a very slightly elliptical orbit that is closest to Sun in January = Earth warmest in January = SAP rises a bit in January.

The standard that has held for decades rises a bit in January? Doesn't sound like a reliable standard.

When an entire planet warms, its surface air pressure rises.

Or does the average surface air pressure rise?

and you don't have one single planet that refutes...

Still waiting for you to show SAP rises when it gets warm. On Earth. Anywhere.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

for the subject of Earth Climate Change, yes it is global. Shift an ocean current and Cape Cod gets colder, somewhere else gets warmer, but EARTH CLIMATE, the climate of the entire planet, doesn't change at all.

You're averaging the planet's climate?

How many data points do you use?

 

[EMH]

And yet every single measurement at every single location fluctuates every single day.

local weather = yawn = has nothing to do with GLOBAL surface air pressure or climate change


and it DOES NOT CHANGE THE STANDARD DECADE AFTER DECADE, proving Earth is not warming and experiencing ZERO net ice melt.

The standard that has held for decades rises a bit in January? Doesn't sound like a reliable standard.

Then ponder this, January is ONE MONTH in a 12 month year, and the fraud you duly protect as a Mossad "faux skeptic" is claiming warming over the past 150 years, not one month.....

Or does the average surface air pressure rise?

insert "average" if you wish. Mars has no oceans, so there is no "sea level." but the data is perfectly clear, planet warms causing SAP to rise....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

local weather = yawn = has nothing to do with GLOBAL surface air pressure or climate change


and it DOES NOT CHANGE THE STANDARD DECADE AFTER DECADE, proving Earth is not warming and experiencing ZERO net ice melt.






Then ponder this, January is ONE MONTH in a 12 month year, and the fraud you duly protect as a Mossad "faux skeptic" is claiming warming over the past 150 years, not one month.....






insert "average" if you wish. Mars has no oceans, so there is no "sea level." but the data is perfectly clear, planet warms causing SAP to rise....

local weather = yawn = has nothing to do with GLOBAL surface air pressure or climate change

When you take every single local measurement, where warmer = lower SAP and average them all together, to get the global average, it miraculously flips to make warmer = higher SAP?

DURR

Then ponder this, January is ONE MONTH in a 12 month year,

Ummmmmm......

a STANDARD surface air pressure at sea level out to 6 digits and that has held for decades if not centuries.
The standard holds for centuries, but changes in January?

DURR

insert "average" if you wish.

The global SAP isn't an average? Is that your newest idiotic claim?
Is global temperature an average?

Mars has no oceans, so there is no "sea level." but the data is perfectly clear, planet warms causing SAP to rise....

Your chart doesn't show the temperature on Mars. Why does Solar Longitude versus Mars SAP help your claim?

 

[EMH]

When you take every single local measurement, where warmer = lower SAP and average them all together, to get the global average, it miraculously flips to make warmer = higher SAP?

Warmer never means lower PLANETARY SAP, and Mars proves it.

 

[EMH]

a STANDARD surface air pressure at sea level out to 6 digits and that has held for decades if not centuries.
The standard holds for centuries, but changes in January?

It changes WHEN THE PLANET WARMS, it goes up.

Earth closest to Sun in Jan = Earth is warmest during Jan = DUH

Why does Solar Longitude versus Mars SAP help your claim?

That's how you figure out DISTANCE FROM SUN

and once again you are left trying to claim CLOSER TO SUN does not mean WARMING and that is the fucked in the head science invalid Mossad Faux Skeptic you are...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Warmer never means lower PLANETARY SAP, and Mars proves it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It changes WHEN THE PLANET WARMS, it goes up.

Earth closest to Sun in Jan = Earth is warmest during Jan = DUH




That's how you figure out DISTANCE FROM SUN

and once again you are left trying to claim CLOSER TO SUN does not mean WARMING and that is the fucked in the head science invalid Mossad Faux Skeptic you are...

It changes WHEN THE PLANET WARMS, it goes up.

Earth closest to Sun in Jan = Earth is warmest during Jan = DUH

At what location is Earth SAP measured? On what day? At what time?

That's how you figure out DISTANCE FROM SUN

Prove it.

and once again you are left trying to claim CLOSER TO SUN does not mean WARMING

At what locations on Earth does warmer mean higher SAP?
On what days?
Support your claim with data from those locations.

Or keep whining as you run away.

 

[jc456]

I am also in Oregon. We have not had much snow, so you made a decent claim. But we are not the coldest part of the USA.

I am leaving Oregon this summer to live in Hawaii. We can't compare Oregon or Hawaii to the bulk of the USA.

one can if oregon is the globe like Rock socks claims.

 

[jc456]

Why do I have to explain this to you every single time this kinda thing happens?

Do you have serious memory issues or are you being willfully stupid?

Anyway, here goes, yet again:

Global warming weakens the Jetstream. the stream is what keep all the arctic cold air in the artic. When the Jetstream weakens is can bend and flex more than usual letting the cold down from the artic into the temperate zones.

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Need more help or have you got it finally?

what causes that to happen? Do you know it's caused by the Pacific Ocean warm current flowing north above Alaska. There is a driver, so unsure what your point actually is.