Man Made Global Warming strikes again this weekend.

[Toddsterpatriot]

It does change. It changes when the planet warms or cools, which is all about how much ice is on Earth, which is all about where the land is relative to the poles.






Not really, the "local weather" is noise that washes out over time, why the STANDARD has stood for decades down to 5 digits...






Anyone with any sense of data interpretation looks at that chart and notices two things...


1. the chart is flat to down, not enough data to conclude either yet
2. the slight drop in the chart is ridiculously small, 1015 to 1014 over 60 years, well within the data's variance.

Not really, the "local weather" is noise that washes out over time

Right. Lower where it's warmer and higher where it's colder.

The opposite of your claim.

 

[Robert W]

How is that MMGW working out?

I can’t tell that it’s any hotter these days.

National Wind Chill / Heat Index | Mesonet

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It is extremely cold yet the media never claims it is global cooling. They need to pack snowshoes to find out.

 

[Robert W]

I explain it every single time we have one of these events and they always pretend it's something I just made up on the spot.

Of course heavy snow fall means the day got warmer.

 

[EMH]

Not really, the "local weather" is noise that washes out over time

Right. Lower where it's warmer and higher where it's colder.

The opposite of your claim.

Even on Mars, hot air rises.

Your only "hope" in this ridiculous angle you are pursuing is 100% refuted by the actual data from Mars, showing SAP rises as the planet warms, or are you arguing

planet does not warm as it gets closer to Sun...???


Which is warmer, Venus or Uranus?

 

[Sunsettommy]

I explain it every single time we have one of these events and they always pretend it's something I just made up on the spot.

Yet you ignored my counter to your dishonest post #2 WITH MY POST #21 link

 

[Robert W]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA you made that up as we were getting them even more often during the global cooling time from the 1940's to the 1970's.

Do you ever look at the AO index?

LINK

Tommy is armed with facts.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Even on Mars, hot air rises.

Your only "hope" in this ridiculous angle you are pursuing is 100% refuted by the actual data from Mars, showing SAP rises as the planet warms, or are you arguing

planet does not warm as it gets closer to Sun...???


Which is warmer, Venus or Uranus?

Your only "hope" in this ridiculous angle you are pursuing is 100% refuted by the actual data from Mars, showing SAP rises as the planet warms, or are you arguing

Your claim concerns Earth temperatures.

Show me, on Earth, that SAP rises as temperatures rise.

 

[EMH]

Your only "hope" in this ridiculous angle you are pursuing is 100% refuted by the actual data from Mars, showing SAP rises as the planet warms, or are you arguing

Your claim concerns Earth temperatures.

Show me, on Earth, that SAP rises as temperatures rise.

LOL!!!

Earth closest to Sun in January = SAP highest on Earth in January

Jurassic Earth = warmer, wetter, much higher Surface Air Pressure

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL!!!

Earth closest to Sun in January = SAP highest on Earth in January

Jurassic Earth = warmer, wetter, much higher Surface Air Pressure

Earth closest to Sun in January = SAP highest on Earth in January

First you claim SAP never changes.
Then you whine when I point out it changes locally, daily.
Then you claim it's highest in January.
You're really confused, aren't you?

Jurassic Earth = warmer, wetter, much higher Surface Air Pressure

What are carbonates?
How do they form?
DURR

 

[Crepitus]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA you made that up as we were getting them even more often during the global cooling time from the 1940's to the 1970's.

Do you ever look at the AO index?

LINK

Meaningless in this context.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Meaningless in this context.

No you were shown to make false claims now after I gave you the link you now backtrack with this dead on arrival post.

You have no idea what influences the waviness in the jet stream at all heck you don't even know what the AO index is......

 

[Crepitus]

No you were shown to make false claims now after I gave you the link you now backtrack with this dead on arrival post.

You have no idea what influences the waviness in the jet stream at all heck you don't even know what the AO index is......

LMAO!! what "false claims" are those?

 

[Sunsettommy]

LMAO!! what "false claims" are those?

Are you really that stupid, I told you it was even more common in the 1970's and posted the link to support it.

 

[Crepitus]

Are you really that stupid, I told you it was even more common in the 1970's and posted the link to support it.

Means nothing.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Means nothing.

Then you have no cogent arguments.

Cheers.

 

[Old Rocks]

It is extremely cold yet the media never claims it is global cooling. They need to pack snowshoes to find out.

Silly ass, it may be extremely cold where you are at, but where I am at it has been a very warm January, and looks to be a very warm February, also.

 

[Old Rocks]

Of course heavy snow fall means the day got warmer.

LOL Yes, in some cases, it does. You see, the snow you get at sub-zero temperatures tends to be light, fluffy, and drifting. The snow you get at just a few degrees below freezing is often heavy, and mostly piles up vertically. However, you seem unable to separate the daily variations from the overall trend in climate. Just because you are getting cold now does not mean that erases the fact that you were much warmer the rest of the year than has been the case in the past.

 

[Old Rocks]

Then you have no cogent arguments.

Cheers.

"The climate system is a coupled non linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible" --- IPCC

So, we really don't know what the long term affects endlessly adding GHG's to atmosphere will be. But we already see the effects at the poles and in extreme weather events, but we don't know for 100% that they will get worse. Kind of like driving fast in dense fog, hearing a warning that a bridge might be out ahead of us, and not knowing how far that bridge is ahead. So just keep pressing on the accelerator. Really smart, very smart, right?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"The climate system is a coupled non linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible" --- IPCC

So, we really don't know what the long term affects endlessly adding GHG's to atmosphere will be. But we already see the effects at the poles and in extreme weather events, but we don't know for 100% that they will get worse. Kind of like driving fast in dense fog, hearing a warning that a bridge might be out ahead of us, and not knowing how far that bridge is ahead. So just keep pressing on the accelerator. Really smart, very smart, right?

But we already see the effects at the poles and in extreme weather events,

No, we don't.

There is no evidence that weather events have gotten more extreme because of higher CO2 levels.

There is no evidence weather would be less extreme if we reduced our emissions of CO2.

 

[Robert W]

LOL Yes, in some cases, it does. You see, the snow you get at sub-zero temperatures tends to be light, fluffy, and drifting. The snow you get at just a few degrees below freezing is often heavy, and mostly piles up vertically. However, you seem unable to separate the daily variations from the overall trend in climate. Just because you are getting cold now does not mean that erases the fact that you were much warmer the rest of the year than has been the case in the past.

The media always howls global warming on warm day, yet only laments it is very setting records when it snows.
Actually, warm days is great. Earth is greener, temperatures are more comfortable and there is no need to go nuts and think man controls climate. He does not.