Man goes to prison for registering dead people as democrats.

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nobody will ever know. That's why Voter ID should be the norm across the country:

Noncitizen illegal vote number higher than estimated

Uh, yeah, they can know. Are you not paying attention to the thread you responded to? They absolutely can know if dead people voted.

Registration Fraud and Voter Fraud are not the same thing.

Right. Then you tell me: what would be the point of breaking the law, risk going to jail, if there was no chance at false votes being cast?

One of the reasons our state did a purge is because the election board is not notified of dead people or people that left the state. If somebody is registering dead people and get their buddies to use their identity with no voter ID, how would they know?

They get paid per registration....duh.

Yeah, that must be it. What do they get per registration, five bucks each or something? Yeah, that's worth the risk of going to jail and having a record.

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

 

[brummelben]

Uh, yeah, they can know. Are you not paying attention to the thread you responded to? They absolutely can know if dead people voted.

Registration Fraud and Voter Fraud are not the same thing.

Right. Then you tell me: what would be the point of breaking the law, risk going to jail, if there was no chance at false votes being cast?

One of the reasons our state did a purge is because the election board is not notified of dead people or people that left the state. If somebody is registering dead people and get their buddies to use their identity with no voter ID, how would they know?

They get paid per registration....duh.

Yeah, that must be it. What do they get per registration, five bucks each or something? Yeah, that's worth the risk of going to jail and having a record.

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE VOTED? NONE?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Right. Then you tell me: what would be the point of breaking the law, risk going to jail, if there was no chance at false votes being cast?

One of the reasons our state did a purge is because the election board is not notified of dead people or people that left the state. If somebody is registering dead people and get their buddies to use their identity with no voter ID, how would they know?

They get paid per registration....duh.

Yeah, that must be it. What do they get per registration, five bucks each or something? Yeah, that's worth the risk of going to jail and having a record.

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE VOTED? NONE?

And your point is????

Did they break the law or did they not?

 

[brummelben]

They get paid per registration....duh.

Yeah, that must be it. What do they get per registration, five bucks each or something? Yeah, that's worth the risk of going to jail and having a record.

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE VOTED? NONE?

And your point is????

Did they break the law or did they not?

Did they vote?

 

[JQPublic1]

Obozo and hillary both assured us there is no such thing as vote fraud. They said that because they know their racist white-hating party can't survive except by stealing elections.

Student headed to prison for registering dead voters for Democrats

June 26 2017 HARRISONBURG, Va. — A man paid to register Virginia voters prior to the 2016 Presidential Election will spend at least 100 days in prison for submitting the names of deceased individuals to the Registrar’s Office.

James Madison University student Andrew J. Spieles, 21, of Harrisonburg, pled guilty Monday in the United States District Court for the Western District of Virginia. As part of the plea agreement, Spieles agreed to a prison sentence of 100 to 120 days.

Spieles worked for Harrisonburg Votes when he committed the crime, according to acting United States Attorney Rick A. Mountcastle.

Harrisonburg Votes is a political organization affiliated with the Democratic Party.

Voter impersonation - Wikipedia

Critics of voter ID laws have argued that voter impersonation is illogical from the perspective of the perpetrator, as if they are caught, they will face harsh criminal penalties, including up to 5 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000 for citizens and possible deportation for non-citizens. Even if they are not caught, they will have cast only one vote for their candidate.[2]Similarly, these critics have noted that it would be very difficult for someone to coordinate widespread voter impersonation in order to steal an election, because if they paid people to vote for their preferred candidate, they could not confirm whether the people they paid voted at all, much less the way they were paid to.[8]

They can't prove one way or another which makes a strong case for Voter-ID.

How much proof do you need? The GOP dominates all three branches of government. If voter fraud is as widespread as you think it is, it is the conservatives who are guilty of it.
Obviously, voter iD laws would only be effective at the state level, enforceable by the party controlling that state. The GOP states already use voter iD.

Conveniently, you seem to have forgotten that the Texas voter ID law was struck down by the Supreme Court. Why? Because the corrupt bigots in the state legislature of Texas were blatantly arrogant.
Many categories of acceptable photo IDs permitted by other states were omitted from the Texas bill. Further evidence of discrimation embedded in the Texas law was the selective acceptance of ID most likely to be carried by White people while rejecting other forms of government ID. For example:
while Texas accepts a license to carry a handgun as a permissible form of voter ID, it didn't accept federal or state government IDs or a student ID.

Texas voter ID law designed to discriminate, judge rules - CNNPolitics.com

How complicated could it be to create a student ID?

CCW's are only issued to people who have been investigated up and down by the government for past criminal activity. On top of that, we even have to (at least in my state) be electronically fingerprinted before you can get your license. In our state, this goes on every five years when you renew your CCW. I don't think college ID's are the same as CCW's.

Are these federal and state ID"s picture ID"s, or just name rank and serial number? Because the picture is what makes Voter-ID secure.

Not every American wants. a CCW permit and that shouldn't be a barrier to their right to vote. And you ducked the question of how the GOP. got to control all three branches of government if the democrats are using widespread voter fraud. Looks like it's the other way around.

 

[Norman]

The memes got it right.

 

[rightwinger]

They get paid per registration....duh.

Yeah, that must be it. What do they get per registration, five bucks each or something? Yeah, that's worth the risk of going to jail and having a record.

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE VOTED? NONE?

And your point is????

Did they break the law or did they not?

Point is........no impact on our electoral process

 

[rightwinger]

Obozo and hillary both assured us there is no such thing as vote fraud. They said that because they know their racist white-hating party can't survive except by stealing elections.

Voter impersonation - Wikipedia

Critics of voter ID laws have argued that voter impersonation is illogical from the perspective of the perpetrator, as if they are caught, they will face harsh criminal penalties, including up to 5 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000 for citizens and possible deportation for non-citizens. Even if they are not caught, they will have cast only one vote for their candidate.[2]Similarly, these critics have noted that it would be very difficult for someone to coordinate widespread voter impersonation in order to steal an election, because if they paid people to vote for their preferred candidate, they could not confirm whether the people they paid voted at all, much less the way they were paid to.[8]

They can't prove one way or another which makes a strong case for Voter-ID.

How much proof do you need? The GOP dominates all three branches of government. If voter fraud is as widespread as you think it is, it is the conservatives who are guilty of it.
Obviously, voter iD laws would only be effective at the state level, enforceable by the party controlling that state. The GOP states already use voter iD.

Conveniently, you seem to have forgotten that the Texas voter ID law was struck down by the Supreme Court. Why? Because the corrupt bigots in the state legislature of Texas were blatantly arrogant.
Many categories of acceptable photo IDs permitted by other states were omitted from the Texas bill. Further evidence of discrimation embedded in the Texas law was the selective acceptance of ID most likely to be carried by White people while rejecting other forms of government ID. For example:
while Texas accepts a license to carry a handgun as a permissible form of voter ID, it didn't accept federal or state government IDs or a student ID.

Texas voter ID law designed to discriminate, judge rules - CNNPolitics.com

How complicated could it be to create a student ID?

CCW's are only issued to people who have been investigated up and down by the government for past criminal activity. On top of that, we even have to (at least in my state) be electronically fingerprinted before you can get your license. In our state, this goes on every five years when you renew your CCW. I don't think college ID's are the same as CCW's.

Are these federal and state ID"s picture ID"s, or just name rank and serial number? Because the picture is what makes Voter-ID secure.

Not every American wants. a CCW permit and that shouldn't be a barrier to their right to vote. And you ducked the question of how the GOP. got to control all three branches of government if the democrats are using widespread voter fraud. Looks like it's the other way around.

Republicans control all three branches of Government in spite of receiving fewer votes

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yeah, that must be it. What do they get per registration, five bucks each or something? Yeah, that's worth the risk of going to jail and having a record.

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE VOTED? NONE?

And your point is????

Did they break the law or did they not?

Point is........no impact on our electoral process

Yes, because he got caught. Who knows what he would have done with those registration had he not been caught.

 

[brummelben]

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE VOTED? NONE?

And your point is????

Did they break the law or did they not?

Point is........no impact on our electoral process

Yes, because he got caught. Who knows what he would have done with those registration had he not been caught.

No one would have ever voted

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obozo and hillary both assured us there is no such thing as vote fraud. They said that because they know their racist white-hating party can't survive except by stealing elections.

Voter impersonation - Wikipedia

Critics of voter ID laws have argued that voter impersonation is illogical from the perspective of the perpetrator, as if they are caught, they will face harsh criminal penalties, including up to 5 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000 for citizens and possible deportation for non-citizens. Even if they are not caught, they will have cast only one vote for their candidate.[2]Similarly, these critics have noted that it would be very difficult for someone to coordinate widespread voter impersonation in order to steal an election, because if they paid people to vote for their preferred candidate, they could not confirm whether the people they paid voted at all, much less the way they were paid to.[8]

They can't prove one way or another which makes a strong case for Voter-ID.

How much proof do you need? The GOP dominates all three branches of government. If voter fraud is as widespread as you think it is, it is the conservatives who are guilty of it.
Obviously, voter iD laws would only be effective at the state level, enforceable by the party controlling that state. The GOP states already use voter iD.

Conveniently, you seem to have forgotten that the Texas voter ID law was struck down by the Supreme Court. Why? Because the corrupt bigots in the state legislature of Texas were blatantly arrogant.
Many categories of acceptable photo IDs permitted by other states were omitted from the Texas bill. Further evidence of discrimation embedded in the Texas law was the selective acceptance of ID most likely to be carried by White people while rejecting other forms of government ID. For example:
while Texas accepts a license to carry a handgun as a permissible form of voter ID, it didn't accept federal or state government IDs or a student ID.

Texas voter ID law designed to discriminate, judge rules - CNNPolitics.com

How complicated could it be to create a student ID?

CCW's are only issued to people who have been investigated up and down by the government for past criminal activity. On top of that, we even have to (at least in my state) be electronically fingerprinted before you can get your license. In our state, this goes on every five years when you renew your CCW. I don't think college ID's are the same as CCW's.

Are these federal and state ID"s picture ID"s, or just name rank and serial number? Because the picture is what makes Voter-ID secure.

Not every American wants. a CCW permit and that shouldn't be a barrier to their right to vote. And you ducked the question of how the GOP. got to control all three branches of government if the democrats are using widespread voter fraud. Looks like it's the other way around.

I won't deny that it's happened on the Republican side, it's just much more frequent on the Democrat side.

Republican or Democrat, anybody that tries to cheat the system should go to prison. Given the fact that voting is primarily a state run operation, it doesn't matter if the Republicans control all three branches of government or not.

 

[eddiew]

How many voted?

Intent. "Win this ************ at all costs.....throw ethics out the window". It's always Democrats moving towards the path of voter fraud. That's all we need to know.

Ethics?? Republicans don't know the meaning of the word One example is how they stole Obamas SC pick There are 100's more

 

[rightwinger]

That is it.
JMU student gets 100-120 days in prison for registering dead people to vote
Spieles told investigators he fabricated the applications to help a co-worker hit a registration “quota,” according to court documents.

Key words: Spieles told.

HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE VOTED? NONE?

And your point is????

Did they break the law or did they not?

Point is........no impact on our electoral process

Yes, because he got caught. Who knows what he would have done with those registration had he not been caught.

He got paid for registering as many people as he could. All that would have happened would be the voter rolls filled with bogus registrations

Doesn't affect the vote

 

[g5000]

How many voted?

Nobody will ever know. That's why Voter ID should be the norm across the country:

Noncitizen illegal vote number higher than estimated

Uh, yeah, they can know. Are you not paying attention to the thread you responded to? They absolutely can know if dead people voted.

Registration Fraud and Voter Fraud are not the same thing.

Right. Then you tell me: what would be the point of breaking the law, risk going to jail, if there was no chance at false votes being cast?

The people who do that kind of work get paid by the number of people they register. Piece work. So the incentive to fluff the numbers is high.

 

[g5000]

How many voted?

Nobody will ever know.

Wrong. When you vote, your name is marked off.

 

[g5000]

The guy submitted 18 false registrations, and there is no evidence anyone voted with those names. The kid was just trying to up his numbers. He was not part of some grand conspiracy to fraudulently vote.

And you don't go to prison if you only got a 100 day sentence. You go to the local jail.

 

[JQPublic1]

won't deny that it's happened on the Republican side, it's just much more frequent on the Democrat side.

Stop lying. You could not possibly know that!

Given the fact that voting is primarily a state run operation, it doesn't matter if the Republicans control all three branches of government or not.

The very fact that Republicans control all three branches of government is proof positive that something occurred in some key battleground states that turned former Obama supporters to Trump supporters.
Whatever it was didn favor the Dems. Given the outcome of the national election, odds of cheating and voter fraud points heavily towards the Republicans in the areas they control and possibly beyond.

But what is the uproar over voter ID when voting procedure is a state function.
Do the GrOPers and you, advocate imposing your rules for voting over Democrat controlled territory?

 

[g5000]

A lot of these voter registration organizations have a quota system, so even when they pay by the hour, there is incentive to cheat.

Our voter registration system is what needs fixing, and Voter ID is not going to fix these problems. Voter ID is completely useless in stopping the types of fraud which occur. Voter ID is misdirection for the rubes so what is really broken doesn't get fixed.

There are giant clues right in front of the rubes' faces that Voter ID has an entirely different purpose behind it.

 

[Norman]

A lot of these voter registration organizations have a quota system, so even when they pay by the hour, there is incentive to cheat.

Our voter registration system is what needs fixing, and Voter ID is not going to fix these problems. Voter ID is completely useless in stopping the types of fraud which occur. Voter ID is misdirection for the rubes so what is really broken doesn't get fixed.

There are giant clues right in front of the rubes' faces that Voter ID has an entirely different purpose behind it.

Yes of course, the fact that the dead are not allowed to vote for Democrat, is a huge problem! Fix it immediately.

 

[rightwinger]

A lot of these voter registration organizations have a quota system, so even when they pay by the hour, there is incentive to cheat.

Our voter registration system is what needs fixing, and Voter ID is not going to fix these problems. Voter ID is completely useless in stopping the types of fraud which occur. Voter ID is misdirection for the rubes so what is really broken doesn't get fixed.

There are giant clues right in front of the rubes' faces that Voter ID has an entirely different purpose behind it.

We put no money into verifying registration or purging records of voters who have moved or died

This is the area Republicans point to as "voter fraud"