Making Poland Great Again

[CowboyTed]

I'm pretty sure most Catholics in the USA also believe that. They may differ on how best to do that.

The Religious majority were more like this...



Do we remeber this...

 

[Foxfyre]

The Religious majority were more like this...



Do we remeber this...

You wish. Not true.

 

[westwall]

TDS is strong in you. Do have a lovely day.

That and simple stupidity.

 

[westwall]

catholic Ethos in Europe is different to US... for starters they believe in 'Love thy Neighbour...'

Oh sure, two world wars started by Europeans just screams love thy neighbor...

 

[Deadstick]

What Deadstick means is that if they were invaded by half the population of England, the British would still welcome them in with open arms even if they took all of the jobs away from their own people while driving their economy into hyper inflation.

That is why the UK is now taken over by and quietly defeated by muslims.

You are living in some fantasy world that doesn't resemble any reality.

 

[Deadstick]

You love the Russian colony Poland? Why? Because the Russians of the 19th century genocided the Polish?

That's rich coming from a Country that killed 6 million Poles in WW2.

 

[zaangalewa]

I just read his bio. Says he is a devout Catholic supporting Catholic values.

This I doubt and this I do not discuss. You try to attack the Holy Catholic Curch.

 

[toobfreak]

You are living in some fantasy world that doesn't resemble any reality.

You wish.

 

[zaangalewa]

I'm pretty sure most Catholics in the USA also believe that. They may differ on how best to do that.

It's pretty stupid what you say. Even your vice president JD Vance for example made some very big mistakes by interpreting the faith and teaching of the Holy Catholic Church so Pope Leo was forced to correct what he said about. It should be easy for all US-Americans to listen to this what the church really says because you can be sure the Pope will understand what you say and mean. My problem currently: It is one thing to fight against misery in the world - it is another thing to fight against human brothers. And by the way: I do not say he is no Catholic - I said only I doubt about that his way is really a Catholic way. And I warn in all cases of extremism.

 

[MarcATL]

He also opposes the Ukraine joining NATO. And supports traditional Catholic values.

Yeah, and...?

Do you believe that Europe's "Catholic values" are the same as the United States' "Catholic values?"

 

[Foxfyre]

Yeah, and...?

Do you believe that Europe's "Catholic values" are the same as the United States' "Catholic values?"

That has what to do with what a Polish leader believes?

 

[Foxfyre]

It's pretty stupid what you say. Even your vice president JD Vance for example made some very big mistakes by interpreting the faith and teaching of the Holy Catholic Church so Pope Leo was forced to correct what he said about. It should be easy for all US-Americans to listen to this what the church really says because you can be sure the Pope will understand what you say and mean. My problem currently: It is one thing to fight against misery in the world - it is another thing to fight against human brothers. And by the way: I do no t say he is no Catholic - I said only I doubt about that his way is really a Catholic way.

I don't know the man. I doubt you do either.

So I can only go by what credible people write about him re his personal history/bio or what he actually says and how he actually has lived his life.

I don't put much faith in opinions of those who judge people they don't know by any other criteria.

 

[Meathead]

Lifting people off the streets and deporting them, supporting fascists in Ukraine and other Countries supporting Zionist genocide.

I don't recall the Germans deporting Jews in WW2. Well, maybe Poland.

 

[MarcATL]

That has what to do with what a Polish leader believes?

Do you know what he believes?

 

[zaangalewa]

That's rich coming from a Country that killed 6 million Poles in WW2.

This 6 million killed Poles - had they been Jews? The Nazis saw in Poles "Aryans" and many Poles got from them just simple the German citizenship on reason to increase the number of Germans in Poland. And I fear if I would say this now in Poland then they would arrest me. Perhaps in the near of a place where Jewish relatives of me had been murdered.

You walk on thin ice - on very thin ice. Since 1942 about 1/3rd of all SS soldiers not had been Germans (and how many had been naturalized Germans no one knows) and the world speaks about all the heavy crimes done from Germans during World War 2 - but nearly no one speaks about the crimes done from others - for example done also on Germans during World War 2. Crimes done from the Nazis, done from the Soviets - but also done from all other allies of World War 2 for example by bombing down complete cities. The world is a world which prefers to think a lot about the sins of others - but not about the own sins. And Poland made laws which declare "We Polish always only had been innocent victims" and castrate the "freedom of speech" on reason to try to make this to the only true truth. But the world is not that simple.

Jesus said:
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Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. And you know the way to where I am going.” Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves. “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.´Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. 

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you. “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.” Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, “Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?” Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me. “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. And now I have told you before it takes place, so that when it does take place you may believe. I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me, but I do as the Father has commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father. Rise, let us go from here.
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[Foxfyre]

Do you know what he believes?

I know what I've read about him written by people who have no apparent ax to grind or political propaganda to promote. I would guess that's a lot more knowledge than most of the people trying to denigrate him or tear him down know about him.

He may be a great pope. He may be an awful pope. But for dang sure it's way too early to judge him on what kind of pope he is.

 

[zaangalewa]

I know what I've read about him written by people who have no apparent ax to grind or political propaganda to promote. I would guess that's a lot more knowledge than most of the people trying to denigrate him or tear him down know about him.

He may be a great pope. He may be an awful pope. But for dang sure it's way too early to judge him on what kind of pope he is.

I'm sure Leo is a wonderful pope - an orientation mark - also in case he will say something you do not like to listen too.

 

[Foxfyre]

I'm sure Leo is a wonderful pope - an orientation mark - also in case he will say something you do not like to listen too.

I suppose English isn't your first language. But that honestly makes no sense at all.

 

[zaangalewa]

I suppose English isn't your first language.

What do you not understand?

But that honestly makes no sense at all.

What makes no sense, Mr. Absurdity? The Jews in Poland spoke the German language "Yiddish". I read decades ago the book of a such a Jew who escaped. And this Jews had two problems: The Nazis and treacherous Poles. One of his problems had been the German - better to say "Yiddish" - language color. Simplified expressed: Anti-Germanism and anti-Semitism had been nearly the same for many Poles. Indeed from a German point of view the Holocaust not had been only a genocide - it had been even a fratricide.

The Soviets under your ally Stalin did by the way continue to persecute Jews until the death of Stalin in 1953.

 

[zaangalewa]

I suppose English isn't your first language. But that honestly makes no sense at all.

I see only a Topppoflöerhjerlne (=Tippfehleren=typping eror) "too" instead of "to".

Again:

I am sure that Leo is a wonderful Pope - a landmark - even in the event that he says something you don't want to hear.

Better now? Perhaps I should really start to learn English ... but why? Many people speak it.