Making Poland Great Again

[zaangalewa]

The Religious majority were more like this...



Do we remeber this...

I remember in this context two US-American students who studied theology here. This was long years ago. They had a baby. The young husband was ignoring the traffic lights and went over the street with the baby on his shoulders. He did not see the car - the old car driver did not react - and so he died trying to protect his baby. But the baby was heavily wounded and needed ¿more than? 6 months in a clinic. It was a long time but the baby survived. They had no health insurance - so we paid. Our social system covered the immense costs. No one is able to let die a baby.

 

[CowboyTed]

It's pretty stupid what you say. Even your vice president JD Vance for example made some very big mistakes by interpreting the faith and teaching of the Holy Catholic Church so Pope Leo was forced to correct what he said about. It should be easy for all US-Americans to listen to this what the church really says because you can be sure the Pope will understand what you say and mean. My problem currently: It is one thing to fight against misery in the world - it is another thing to fight against human brothers. And by the way: I do not say he is no Catholic - I said only I doubt about that his way is really a Catholic way. And I warn in all cases of extremism.

Agreed...

Pope Leo is about humility and teachings of Christ. MAGA lot here believe in the teachings of Trump... They differ considerably...

 

[CowboyTed]

That has what to do with what a Polish leader believes?

The Polish leader has European Catholic values... I say he is more on the conservative side but he follows what the Pope says...

US Catholic values have been influenced by the retail religion of US.. The more , tell the customers what they want to hear because the church next door will...

So while the Polish leader might be anti gay marriage now, he could be different if the Pope guides him that way..

Pope approves blessings for same-sex couples that must not resemble marriage

Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday.

apnews.com

Leo has taken a more Conservative stance than Francis but things change..

 

[braalian]

unconquerable Poland.

“unconquerable”?

90% of Poland’s history revolves around being invaded, conquered and partitioned by the nations surrounding it.

 

[CowboyTed]

“unconquerable”?

90% of Poland’s history revolves around being invaded, conquered and partitioned by the nations surrounding it.

More like 'unholdable'...

Very hard to defend without a shit load of land mines and trenches....

 

[zaangalewa]

Agreed...

Pope Leo is about humility and teachings of Christ.

This I did not say. Never thought about what you like to say with this words. Sounds in my ears a little as if no one should listen to him because everyone thinks he knows Christ. But I say: "Listen to him! Carefully! He is not loud!" And I think also it's better for everyone not to try to force him to have to become loud.

MAGA lot here believe in the teachings of Trump... They differ considerably...

Teaching? Donald Trump? ... What kind of teaching? "I - the greatest superidiot on planet Earth - will teach you how to become a greater idiot!"?

 

[zaangalewa]

The Polish leader has European Catholic values...

This I doubt. I think he will give Poland to the Russian atheists - the same as is doing Orban with Hungary. Even the orthodox patriarch of Moscow - not only a shame for us all but also a shame for his own father - had been an atheistic KGB member and became an oligarch with $2.7 billion private property thanks the grace of his god Putin.

 

[zaangalewa]

“unconquerable”?

90% of Poland’s history revolves around being invaded, conquered and partitioned by the nations surrounding it.

By the way: Conquered Poland partially against the own will. Empress Maria-Theresia said once for example ‘Having to agree to the partition of Poland will cost me 10 years of my life’.

 

[Foxfyre]

The Polish leader has European Catholic values... I say he is more on the conservative side but he follows what the Pope says...

US Catholic values have been influenced by the retail religion of US.. The more , tell the customers what they want to hear because the church next door will...

So while the Polish leader might be anti gay marriage now, he could be different if the Pope guides him that way..

Pope approves blessings for same-sex couples that must not resemble marriage

Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday.

apnews.com

Leo has taken a more Conservative stance than Francis but things change..

Thanks but I didn't mention 'gay marriage' or gay anything. That doesn't factor into my concept of traditional Catholic values but is an entirely different issue. I don't have any clue re what Pope Leo's opinions are in that different issue.

Not being Catholic, the policies aren't all that important to me, but as a passionate historian, especially religious history, it is all very interesting to me.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I love these guys who say the Eastern Europeans are turning to the Right...

Here are a couple of facts...
The older are the ones voting for these right, these are the ones that look to Russia... The youth are liberal and want Western Values, they want corruption gone, better transparency and democracy...
The right in Eastern Europe are riddled with corruption, even this candidate was found out on the campaign trail..

Top Polish legal official on Nawrocki property deal: "Possible fraud involved"

“A possible fraud may have taken place,” said Przemysław Rosati, president of the Polish Bar Council, commenting on a scandal involving a property acquired by PiS presidential candidate Karol Nawrocki from an elderly man, as first reported by Onet.pl.

www.polskieradio.pl

EU is paying the bill...
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Yep... All those liberal countries are paying the bill... Same in America, Red states bitch while they have the hand out....

Right Wing economic model doesn't work... It is broken... IT seems to run on the idea of getting the Centre or liberals to pay for it..

It wasn't financially beneficial for the UK to be in the EU, the rich countries simply just pay for the poor ones.

 

[CowboyTed]

This I doubt. I think he will give Poland to the Russian atheists - the same as is doing Orban with Hungary. Even the orthodox patriarch of Moscow - not only a shame for us all but also a shame for his own father - had been an atheistic KGB member and became an oligarch with $2.7 billion private property thanks the grace of his god Putin.

There are substantive grounds for at least some cooperation across partisan lines in Poland to help Ukraine resist Russian aggression and, to this end, to work with key European allies, such as Britain, France, and Germany, as well as with the United States. Unlike the Hungarian nationalist leader Viktor Orbán, Polish nationalists and outgoing President Andrzej Duda generally support Ukraine and resolutely oppose Russian aggression. In early 2022, for example, PiS party leader Jarosław Kaczyński publicly broke with Orbán over the latter’s lack of support for Ukraine at the time. Poland’s current rapid military buildup began during the previous PiS government and continued under the Tusk coalition. Both political camps support NATO and strong relations with the United States.

Experts react: Conservative Karol Nawrocki is Poland’s next president. What does it mean for Poland, Europe, and the world?

On June 1, the historian and former boxer won Poland’s presidential election. Atlantic Council experts share their insights on the race, the winner, and what’s next.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Polish right are nationalists and really oppose Russia....

 

[Deadstick]

There are substantive grounds for at least some cooperation across partisan lines in Poland to help Ukraine resist Russian aggression and, to this end, to work with key European allies, such as Britain, France, and Germany, as well as with the United States. Unlike the Hungarian nationalist leader Viktor Orbán, Polish nationalists and outgoing President Andrzej Duda generally support Ukraine and resolutely oppose Russian aggression. In early 2022, for example, PiS party leader Jarosław Kaczyński publicly broke with Orbán over the latter’s lack of support for Ukraine at the time. Poland’s current rapid military buildup began during the previous PiS government and continued under the Tusk coalition. Both political camps support NATO and strong relations with the United States.

Experts react: Conservative Karol Nawrocki is Poland’s next president. What does it mean for Poland, Europe, and the world?

On June 1, the historian and former boxer won Poland’s presidential election. Atlantic Council experts share their insights on the race, the winner, and what’s next.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Polish right are nationalists and really oppose Russia....

Do they oppose the Banderites who butchered tens of thousands of Poles with axes, knives,sledge hammers and iron bars? their grandchildren are now the Kiev Regime.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[CowboyTed]

It wasn't financially beneficial for the UK to be in the EU, the rich countries simply just pay for the poor ones.

How is it going financially being out of Europe....

Let me break it to you... SHIT....

You would think by luck UK would be above EU once...

Greatest own goal in history....

 

[CowboyTed]

Do they oppose the Banderites who butchered tens of thousands of Poles with axes, knives,sledge hammers and iron bars? their grandchildren are now the Kiev Regime.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Seriously Deadstick...

That was 80 years ago...

They are far more concerned about Russians right now... Stalin killed a lot of Poles

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Deadstick]

Seriously Deadstick...

That was 80 years ago...

They are far more concerned about Russians right now... Stalin killed a lot of Poles

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Kiev Regime have resurrected the cult of Bandera, in fact it was resurrected years ago by Yuschenko who made Bandera a hero of Ukraine and started rewriting History in School books, you just don't get it, that is what started the civil war back in 2014 and led to the Russian intervention in 2022, if you don't learn from History you repeat it and you don't seem to have learned a damn thing,and that is what's going on now.

 

[Captain Caveman]

How is it going financially being out of Europe....

Let me break it to you... SHIT....

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You would think by luck UK would be above EU once...

Greatest own goal in history....

It's going very well. Thank you for the COVID graph (thick twat)

 

[zaangalewa]

... Polish right are nationalists and really oppose Russia....

What's nothing else than blatant stupid nonsense. They support Putin and their old Polish Soviet system. Same is also doing the (Nazi-)AfD in Germany. Most people underestimate that Putin is as well Nazi and Stalinist. Putin is dancing on all far extremist parties - also on the parties of Islamists.

 

[zaangalewa]

It wasn't financially beneficial for the UK to be in the EU, the rich countries simply just pay for the poor ones.

Nothing what the Brexiters said came true. In the opposite the UK lost a lot with their Brexit. The new word for "Brexit" is meanwhile "Bregret" I heard. Meanwhile even the trade with the high tech product "Christmas trees" became a problem with and in GB I also heard. Fortunately, Putin is now boosting the British defence industry - but what kind of hope for the future is that? What will you do when Germany and/or Scandinavia will fall? Learn Russian for beginners?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

(thick twat)

 

[zaangalewa]

Thanks but I didn't mention 'gay marriage' or gay anything. That doesn't factor into my concept of traditional Catholic values but is an entirely different issue. I don't have any clue re what Pope Leo's opinions are in that different issue.

Not being Catholic, the policies aren't all that important to me, but as a passionate historian, especially religious history, it is all very interesting to me.

Then you should know what the so called teutonic knights really had been. Germans by the way have nearly nothing to do with the ¿Celtic? or ¿Germanic? Teutons. "Teuton" sounds only for some people as if it has something to do with the word "deutsch" (~germanic) - but this are totally different things. And what the Polish say about the so called "Teutonic knights" is also in most cases more or less nonsense. The Polish are Catholics because of the Teutonic knights. And the Teutonic knights also often had been under control of the Polish kings who gave them orders. "Prussia" (today "Oblast Kaliningrad") by the way was made to a kingdom from the Polish king and was in the origin no German kingdom.

And also interesting for you could it be to read something about the history of the Hanse - what's perhaps also interesting for the history of the USA at all because this has to with your protestant roots and values. Nevertheless in the origin the Hanse had been Catholic. The Hanse had been a union of traders.