Making Imperial Israel Whole

[georgephillip]

For more than thirty years Israel has planned to balkanize Arab states like Iraq and Syria into warring factions in order to elevate it's international status to that of Superpower.

"1. The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, occurs again and
again in Israeli strategic thinking. For example, Ze'ev Schiff, the military correspondent of Ha'aretz
(and probably the most knowledgeable in Israel, on this topic) writes about the "best" that can happen
for Israeli interests in Iraq: "The dissolution of Iraq into a Shi'ite state, a Sunni state and the separation
of the Kurdish part" (Ha'aretz 6/2/1982). Actually, this aspect of the plan is very old.

"2. The strong connection with Neo-Conservative thought in the USA is very prominent, especially in
the author's notes. But, while lip service is paid to the idea of the 'defense of the West' from Soviet
power, the real aim of the author, and of the present Israeli establishment is clear: To make an Imperial
Israel into a world power. In other words, the aim of Sharon is to deceive the Americans after he has
deceived all the rest. "

"A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties."

http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east.pdf

Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran are slated for extinction so Imperial Israel can deceive its principle benefactor. Gee, I wonder if any USS Liberty survivors are surprised?

 

[georgephillip]

"To our
knowledge, this document is the most explicit, detailed and unambiguous statement to date of the
Zionist strategy in the Middle East. Furthermore, it stands as an accurate representation of the "vision"
for the entire Middle East of the presently ruling Zionist regime of Begin, Sharon and Eitan. Its
importance, hence, lies not in its historical value but in the nightmare which it presents.

The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional
power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all
existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state.
Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its
source of moral legitimation."

Israel's "moral legitimation" and that of its star-spangled benefactor hinges upon the mass murder, maiming, and displacement of Iraqis and Syrians, and Libyans with Somalis, Sudanese, and Persians waiting in the wings.

Maybe the Jewish state should simply vanish from the page of time instead?

http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east.pdf

 

[pbel]

"To our
knowledge, this document is the most explicit, detailed and unambiguous statement to date of the
Zionist strategy in the Middle East. Furthermore, it stands as an accurate representation of the "vision"
for the entire Middle East of the presently ruling Zionist regime of Begin, Sharon and Eitan. Its
importance, hence, lies not in its historical value but in the nightmare which it presents.

The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional
power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all
existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state.
Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its
source of moral legitimation."

Israel's "moral legitimation" and that of its star-spangled benefactor hinges upon the mass murder, maiming, and displacement of Iraqis and Syrians, and Libyans with Somalis, Sudanese, and Persians waiting in the wings.

Maybe the Jewish state should simply vanish from the page of time instead?

http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east.pdf

I know Israel is fighting for her long-term survival, that's why the Bantustans: control of large areas with the least manpower...

And there lies its weakness; manpower. The Jewish State may simply disappear because of the huge number of people against her...

Bantustans keep the people corralled, but without definite borders acceptable to the Arabs and Muslims in general, those numbers will constantly cause Economic friction will make her fall from within because of defense costs and demographics.

 

[georgephillip]

"To our
knowledge, this document is the most explicit, detailed and unambiguous statement to date of the
Zionist strategy in the Middle East. Furthermore, it stands as an accurate representation of the "vision"
for the entire Middle East of the presently ruling Zionist regime of Begin, Sharon and Eitan. Its
importance, hence, lies not in its historical value but in the nightmare which it presents.

The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional
power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all
existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state.
Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its
source of moral legitimation."

Israel's "moral legitimation" and that of its star-spangled benefactor hinges upon the mass murder, maiming, and displacement of Iraqis and Syrians, and Libyans with Somalis, Sudanese, and Persians waiting in the wings.

Maybe the Jewish state should simply vanish from the page of time instead?

http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east.pdf

I know Israel is fighting for her long-term survival, that's why the Bantustans: control of large areas with the least manpower...

And there lies its weakness; manpower. The Jewish State may simply disappear because of the huge number of people against her...

Bantustans keep the people corralled, but without definite borders acceptable to the Arabs and Muslims in general, those numbers will constantly cause Economic friction will make her fall from within because of defense costs and demographics.

Empire is expensive; however, there were prominent military men in Truman's Administration who told him 650,000 Jews stood no chance against 36 million Arabs in 1948.

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, et al,

Are we still talking about this Plan (http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/...iddle-east.pdf) published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. ?

"To our
knowledge, this document is the most explicit, detailed and unambiguous statement to date of the
Zionist strategy in the Middle East. Furthermore, it stands as an accurate representation of the "vision"
for the entire Middle East of the presently ruling Zionist regime of Begin, Sharon and Eitan. Its
importance, hence, lies not in its historical value but in the nightmare which it presents.

The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional
power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all
existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state.
Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its
source of moral legitimation."

Israel's "moral legitimation" and that of its star-spangled benefactor hinges upon the mass murder, maiming, and displacement of Iraqis and Syrians, and Libyans with Somalis, Sudanese, and Persians waiting in the wings.

Maybe the Jewish state should simply vanish from the page of time instead?

http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east.pdf

I know Israel is fighting for her long-term survival, that's why the Bantustans: control of large areas with the least manpower...

And there lies its weakness; manpower. The Jewish State may simply disappear because of the huge number of people against her...

Bantustans keep the people corralled, but without definite borders acceptable to the Arabs and Muslims in general, those numbers will constantly cause Economic friction will make her fall from within because of defense costs and demographics.

Empire is expensive; however, there were prominent military men in Truman's Administration who told him 650,000 Jews stood no chance against 36 million Arabs in 1948.

(COMMENT)

So other than to claim that the "Arab's" are calling the Israelis --- Imperialist, what is your point?

I'm confused. You are talking an Arab Propaganda publication, and an Arab interpretation, and try to make something sinister out of it.

This is all imaginary material pieced together by pro-Palestinian advocates; that believe "armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine;" and wish to present fictitious and fallacious reason for justification. They believe that "there is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Israel is a parliamentary democracy. It can hardly be called an "imperial" anything.

While it can be said that Israel has "occupied" populations that organize, instigate, facilitate, participate in, finance, and encourage Jihadist and Feday'een activities --- AND --- and allow their territories to be used for Jihadist and Feday'een installations and training camps for the preparation or organization of Jihadist and Feday'een acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, it has not posed a threat to any of the neighboring regional states.

While it can be said that Israeli "occupation" and military action has been used to quarantine the Jihadist and Feday'een operating against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel, it was not the first to use of armed forces, in contravention of the UN Charter; invading and attacking the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel as did the Arab Palestinians and the Arab League. Nor has it sent armed bands of Jihadist and Feday'een to carry out hostile acts against Israel (and other state nationals).

Israel has given no consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, to territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from it "occupation" of territory other than its own self-defense against a neighboring hostile population.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[MHunterB]

It's a great example of Arab propaganda, that's for sure!

But it bears no relation whatsoever to any actual policy of any Israeli administration and certainly has ZERO to do with Jewish religious beliefs.

Any 'discussion' of this aging tripe belongs in the Conspiracy forum with the rest of that nonsense......

 

[P F Tinmore]

georgephillip, et al,

Are we still talking about this Plan (http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/...iddle-east.pdf) published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. ?

I know Israel is fighting for her long-term survival, that's why the Bantustans: control of large areas with the least manpower...

And there lies its weakness; manpower. The Jewish State may simply disappear because of the huge number of people against her...

Bantustans keep the people corralled, but without definite borders acceptable to the Arabs and Muslims in general, those numbers will constantly cause Economic friction will make her fall from within because of defense costs and demographics.

Empire is expensive; however, there were prominent military men in Truman's Administration who told him 650,000 Jews stood no chance against 36 million Arabs in 1948.

(COMMENT)

So other than to claim that the "Arab's" are calling the Israelis --- Imperialist, what is your point?

I'm confused. You are talking an Arab Propaganda publication, and an Arab interpretation, and try to make something sinister out of it.

This is all imaginary material pieced together by pro-Palestinian advocates; that believe "armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine;" and wish to present fictitious and fallacious reason for justification. They believe that "there is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Israel is a parliamentary democracy. It can hardly be called an "imperial" anything.

While it can be said that Israel has "occupied" populations that organize, instigate, facilitate, participate in, finance, and encourage Jihadist and Feday'een activities --- AND --- and allow their territories to be used for Jihadist and Feday'een installations and training camps for the preparation or organization of Jihadist and Feday'een acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, it has not posed a threat to any of the neighboring regional states.

While it can be said that Israeli "occupation" and military action has been used to quarantine the Jihadist and Feday'een operating against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel, it was not the first to use of armed forces, in contravention of the UN Charter; invading and attacking the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel as did the Arab Palestinians and the Arab League. Nor has it sent armed bands of Jihadist and Feday'een to carry out hostile acts against Israel (and other state nationals).

Israel has given no consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, to territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from it "occupation" of territory other than its own self-defense against a neighboring hostile population.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you really crack me up with that territorial integrity of Israel shtick.

 

[docmauser1]

Maybe the Jewish state should simply vanish from the page of time instead?

Maybe occupied Caliphonriah should be returned to Mexico with our honorable georgephillip paying rent to the latter with interest? With interest accrued, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

"1. The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, ....

My magnificient me actually took the trouble of reading that 1982 material and, predictably delirious commentation of Shahak (praise allah for his effort in ridding the world of that walking-driveling individual) aside, it is very interesting in the context of the US-USSR standoff, explicitly mentioned, and the mideast situation thereof that time. His account of the arab habitat:

• This world, with its ethnic minorities, its factions and internal crises, which is astonishingly self-destructive, as we can see in Lebanon, in non-Arab Iran and now also in Syria, is unable to deal successfully with its fundamental problems and does not therefore constitute a real threat against the State of Israel in the long run, but only in the short run where its immediate military power has great import. In the long run, this world will be unable to exist within its present framework in the areas around us without having to go through genuine revolutionary changes. The Moslem Arab World is built like a temporary house of cards put together by foreigners (France and Britain in the Nineteen Twenties), without the wishes and desires of the inhabitants having been taken into account. It was arbitrarily divided into 19 states, all made of combinations of minorites and ethnic groups which are hostile to one another, so that every Arab Moslem state nowadays faces ethnic social destruction from within, and in some a civil war is already raging.

is brilliant. Provided, Shahak didn't make it all up himself.
As to the Arab-American university and its respective drivel, it's a backwater sty, headquartered in Jenin, palistan.

 

[georgephillip]

georgephillip, et al,

Are we still talking about this Plan (http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/...iddle-east.pdf) published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. ?

I know Israel is fighting for her long-term survival, that's why the Bantustans: control of large areas with the least manpower...

And there lies its weakness; manpower. The Jewish State may simply disappear because of the huge number of people against her...

Bantustans keep the people corralled, but without definite borders acceptable to the Arabs and Muslims in general, those numbers will constantly cause Economic friction will make her fall from within because of defense costs and demographics.

Empire is expensive; however, there were prominent military men in Truman's Administration who told him 650,000 Jews stood no chance against 36 million Arabs in 1948.

(COMMENT)

So other than to claim that the "Arab's" are calling the Israelis --- Imperialist, what is your point?

I'm confused. You are talking an Arab Propaganda publication, and an Arab interpretation, and try to make something sinister out of it.

This is all imaginary material pieced together by pro-Palestinian advocates; that believe "armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine;" and wish to present fictitious and fallacious reason for justification. They believe that "there is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Israel is a parliamentary democracy. It can hardly be called an "imperial" anything.

While it can be said that Israel has "occupied" populations that organize, instigate, facilitate, participate in, finance, and encourage Jihadist and Feday'een activities --- AND --- and allow their territories to be used for Jihadist and Feday'een installations and training camps for the preparation or organization of Jihadist and Feday'een acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, it has not posed a threat to any of the neighboring regional states.

While it can be said that Israeli "occupation" and military action has been used to quarantine the Jihadist and Feday'een operating against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel, it was not the first to use of armed forces, in contravention of the UN Charter; invading and attacking the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel as did the Arab Palestinians and the Arab League. Nor has it sent armed bands of Jihadist and Feday'een to carry out hostile acts against Israel (and other state nationals).

Israel has given no consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, to territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from it "occupation" of territory other than its own self-defense against a neighboring hostile population.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco...you're calling Oded Yinion an Arab propagandist, right?

"The Association of Arab-American University Graduates finds it compelling to inaugurate its new
publication series, Special Documents, with Oded Yinon's article which appeared in Kivunim
(Directions), the journal of the Department of Information of the World Zionist Organization. Oded
Yinon is an Israeli journalist and was formerly attached to the Foreign Ministry of Israel. To our
knowledge, this document is the most explicit, detailed and unambiguous statement to date of the
Zionist strategy in the Middle East. Furthermore, it stands as an accurate representation of the 'vision'
for the entire Middle East of the presently ruling Zionist regime of Begin, Sharon and Eitan. Its
importance, hence, lies not in its historical value but in the nightmare which it presents.

2

"The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional
power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all
existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state.
Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its
source of moral legitimation."

http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east.pdf

Have you noticed any recent attempts to dissolve Libya, Iraq, and Syria?

 

[georgephillip]

It's a great example of Arab propaganda, that's for sure!

But it bears no relation whatsoever to any actual policy of any Israeli administration and certainly has ZERO to do with Jewish religious beliefs.

Any 'discussion' of this aging tripe belongs in the Conspiracy forum with the rest of that nonsense......

Tell us all you know about Oded Yinon's Arab propaganda.

"The winter issue of Kivunim, a “A Journal for Judaism and Zionism,” publishes “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties” by Oded Yinon.

"The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace.

"Instead, Yinon suggests that the Arab States should be destroyed from within by exploiting their internal religious and ethnic tensions: “Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

"'The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.

"'Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon.'”

Oded Yinon

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe the Jewish state should simply vanish from the page of time instead?

Maybe occupied Caliphonriah should be returned to Mexico with our honorable georgephillip paying rent to the latter with interest? With interest accrued, of course.

I thought Jews abandoned usury?
Got that sinking feeling yet, Drivel?

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, et al,

Oh yes, I've noticed.

Have you noticed any recent attempts to dissolve Libya, Iraq, and Syria?

(COMMENT)

The history of the Arab World, less the Hashemite Kingdom and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (plus the derivative Emirates), has been one of near continuous conflict; mostly at their own hand. Of late, the "Arab Spring" can hardly be laid at the feet of the US or Israel.

Lebanon:

• Saleh al Aridi - a leader of the Lebanese Democratic Party. Assassinated on 10 September 2008.
• Kamal Naji - also known as Kamal Medhat, a Palestinian living in Lebanon who served as the deputy representative of the PLO in Lebanon. Assassinated on 23 March 2009.
• Wissam al-Hassan, head of information branch of the Internal Security Forces. Assassinated on 19 October 2012.

Libya:

(Beirut) – At least 51 people have died in a broadening wave of apparent political assassinations in the cities of Benghazi and Derna in volatile eastern Libya. Authorities have not prosecuted anyone for these crimes, and have no suspects in custody, as far as Human Rights Watch has been able to determine.​

Iraq:

In the first Iraqi elections since the American troop withdrawal, Sunni candidates are being attacked and killed in greater numbers than in recent campaigns, raising concerns in Washington over Iraq’s political stability and the viability of a democratic system the United States has heavily invested in over years of war and diplomacy.

At least 15 candidates, all members of the minority Sunni community, have been assassinated—some apparently by political opponents, others by radical Sunni militants. Many others have been wounded or kidnapped or have received menacing text messages or phone calls demanding that they withdraw.​

Syria:

BEIRUT -- Syrian opposition forces have targeted government officials, army and police officers and civil servants in their campaign to topple President Bashar Assad's regime.
​

This is the natural order for the way Arabs do business. They are cannibalistic, and relish killing their own kind.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[georgephillip]

"1. The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, ....

My magnificient me actually took the trouble of reading that 1982 material and, predictably delirious commentation of Shahak (praise allah for his effort in ridding the world of that walking-driveling individual) aside, it is very interesting in the context of the US-USSR standoff, explicitly mentioned, and the mideast situation thereof that time. His account of the arab habitat:

• This world, with its ethnic minorities, its factions and internal crises, which is astonishingly self-destructive, as we can see in Lebanon, in non-Arab Iran and now also in Syria, is unable to deal successfully with its fundamental problems and does not therefore constitute a real threat against the State of Israel in the long run, but only in the short run where its immediate military power has great import. In the long run, this world will be unable to exist within its present framework in the areas around us without having to go through genuine revolutionary changes. The Moslem Arab World is built like a temporary house of cards put together by foreigners (France and Britain in the Nineteen Twenties), without the wishes and desires of the inhabitants having been taken into account. It was arbitrarily divided into 19 states, all made of combinations of minorites and ethnic groups which are hostile to one another, so that every Arab Moslem state nowadays faces ethnic social destruction from within, and in some a civil war is already raging.

is brilliant. Provided, Shahak didn't make it all up himself.
As to the Arab-American university and its respective drivel, it's a backwater sty, headquartered in Jenin, palistan.

"Oded Yinon was a participant or observer in the following events:
February 1982: Article in Israeli Journal Says Israel Should Exploit Internal Tensions of Arab States

"The winter issue of Kivunim, a 'A Journal for Judaism and Zionism,' publishes 'A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties' by Oded Yinon.

"The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace.

"Instead, Yinon suggests that the Arab States should be destroyed from within by exploiting their internal religious and ethnic tensions..."

Oded Yinon

Give peace a chance for a change.

 

[docmauser1]

..you're calling Oded Yinion an Arab propagandist, right?

Who knows, but Shahak certainly was one and a "creative" monomaniacal asshole too, of course.

Have you noticed any recent attempts to dissolve Libya, Iraq, and Syria?

Why, it's an arab spring!

 

[georgephillip]

georgephillip, et al,

Oh yes, I've noticed.

Have you noticed any recent attempts to dissolve Libya, Iraq, and Syria?

(COMMENT)

The history of the Arab World, less the Hashemite Kingdom and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (plus the derivative Emirates), has been one of near continuous conflict; mostly at their own hand. Of late, the "Arab Spring" can hardly be laid at the feet of the US or Israel.

Lebanon:

• Saleh al Aridi - a leader of the Lebanese Democratic Party. Assassinated on 10 September 2008.
• Kamal Naji - also known as Kamal Medhat, a Palestinian living in Lebanon who served as the deputy representative of the PLO in Lebanon. Assassinated on 23 March 2009.
• Wissam al-Hassan, head of information branch of the Internal Security Forces. Assassinated on 19 October 2012.

Libya:

(Beirut) – At least 51 people have died in a broadening wave of apparent political assassinations in the cities of Benghazi and Derna in volatile eastern Libya. Authorities have not prosecuted anyone for these crimes, and have no suspects in custody, as far as Human Rights Watch has been able to determine.​

Iraq:

In the first Iraqi elections since the American troop withdrawal, Sunni candidates are being attacked and killed in greater numbers than in recent campaigns, raising concerns in Washington over Iraq’s political stability and the viability of a democratic system the United States has heavily invested in over years of war and diplomacy.

At least 15 candidates, all members of the minority Sunni community, have been assassinated—some apparently by political opponents, others by radical Sunni militants. Many others have been wounded or kidnapped or have received menacing text messages or phone calls demanding that they withdraw.​

Syria:

BEIRUT -- Syrian opposition forces have targeted government officials, army and police officers and civil servants in their campaign to topple President Bashar Assad's regime.
​

This is the natural order for the way Arabs do business. They are cannibalistic, and relish killing their own kind.

Most Respectfully,
R

What do you call those who take money to murder, maim, displace and incarcerate millions of Arabs on the opposite side of the planet from their homeland...good guys?

 

[docmauser1]

"1. The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, ....

My magnificient me actually took the trouble of reading that 1982 material and, predictably delirious commentation of Shahak (praise allah for his effort in ridding the world of that walking-driveling individual) aside, it is very interesting in the context of the US-USSR standoff, explicitly mentioned, and the mideast situation thereof that time. His account of the arab habitat:

• This world, with its ethnic minorities, its factions and internal crises, which is astonishingly self-destructive, as we can see in Lebanon, in non-Arab Iran and now also in Syria, is unable to deal successfully with its fundamental problems and does not therefore constitute a real threat against the State of Israel in the long run, but only in the short run where its immediate military power has great import. In the long run, this world will be unable to exist within its present framework in the areas around us without having to go through genuine revolutionary changes. The Moslem Arab World is built like a temporary house of cards put together by foreigners (France and Britain in the Nineteen Twenties), without the wishes and desires of the inhabitants having been taken into account. It was arbitrarily divided into 19 states, all made of combinations of minorites and ethnic groups which are hostile to one another, so that every Arab Moslem state nowadays faces ethnic social destruction from within, and in some a civil war is already raging.

is brilliant. Provided, Shahak didn't make it all up himself.
As to the Arab-American university and its respective drivel, it's a backwater sty, headquartered in Jenin, palistan.

Substitute Caliphate for Communism

Drivel non sequitur.

Oded Yinon was a participant or observer in the following events: February 1982: Article in Israeli Journal Says Israel Should Exploit Internal Tensions of Arab States

The "progressive" world was doing same to the South Africa, the USSR was doing same against Israel, France played one african tinpot against another, the EU finances israeli leftists, etc., congrats on discovering america. hehehe

 

[toastman]

georgephillip, et al,

Are we still talking about this Plan (http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/...iddle-east.pdf) published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. ?

Empire is expensive; however, there were prominent military men in Truman's Administration who told him 650,000 Jews stood no chance against 36 million Arabs in 1948.

(COMMENT)

So other than to claim that the "Arab's" are calling the Israelis --- Imperialist, what is your point?

I'm confused. You are talking an Arab Propaganda publication, and an Arab interpretation, and try to make something sinister out of it.

This is all imaginary material pieced together by pro-Palestinian advocates; that believe "armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine;" and wish to present fictitious and fallacious reason for justification. They believe that "there is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Israel is a parliamentary democracy. It can hardly be called an "imperial" anything.

While it can be said that Israel has "occupied" populations that organize, instigate, facilitate, participate in, finance, and encourage Jihadist and Feday'een activities --- AND --- and allow their territories to be used for Jihadist and Feday'een installations and training camps for the preparation or organization of Jihadist and Feday'een acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens, it has not posed a threat to any of the neighboring regional states.

While it can be said that Israeli "occupation" and military action has been used to quarantine the Jihadist and Feday'een operating against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel, it was not the first to use of armed forces, in contravention of the UN Charter; invading and attacking the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel as did the Arab Palestinians and the Arab League. Nor has it sent armed bands of Jihadist and Feday'een to carry out hostile acts against Israel (and other state nationals).

Israel has given no consideration of whatever nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, to territorial acquisition or special advantage resulting from it "occupation" of territory other than its own self-defense against a neighboring hostile population.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you really crack me up with that territorial integrity of Israel shtick.

Is there something in his post that you find to be false ??

 

[toastman]

For more than thirty years Israel has planned to balkanize Arab states like Iraq and Syria into warring factions in order to elevate it's international status to that of Superpower.

"1. The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, occurs again and
again in Israeli strategic thinking. For example, Ze'ev Schiff, the military correspondent of Ha'aretz
(and probably the most knowledgeable in Israel, on this topic) writes about the "best" that can happen
for Israeli interests in Iraq: "The dissolution of Iraq into a Shi'ite state, a Sunni state and the separation
of the Kurdish part" (Ha'aretz 6/2/1982). Actually, this aspect of the plan is very old.

"2. The strong connection with Neo-Conservative thought in the USA is very prominent, especially in
the author's notes. But, while lip service is paid to the idea of the 'defense of the West' from Soviet
power, the real aim of the author, and of the present Israeli establishment is clear: To make an Imperial
Israel into a world power. In other words, the aim of Sharon is to deceive the Americans after he has
deceived all the rest. "

"A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties."

http://syria360.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east.pdf

Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran are slated for extinction so Imperial Israel can deceive its principle benefactor. Gee, I wonder if any USS Liberty survivors are surprised?

WTF are you blabbing about now ??
You have some very weird serious obsession with Israel.

 

[Roudy]

"Imperial" Israelis just gobbling up all the land! Take a look at Israeli imperialism. This has to stop!