Majority of Americans favor wealth tax on very rich: Reuters/Ipsos poll

[j-mac]

Well, isn't that convenient....If you have someone that can't afford food, has bill collectors hounding them, on the verge of being kicked out of their rental home, but you want them to give up the medicine money for their child, to the church so that you can approve of their devotion to faith...yet, if they did that and the child died from not treating their illness, you'd be among the first no doubt to call them fools, and morons for having that faith in the first place....

This is why I don't take religious argument from people who deep down loath the premise of religion.

Actually I am very fond of the premise of religion, it is people like you that I loathe, those that want to wear the mantle but then ignore the words of their religious text.

You do understand, you are not arguing with me, but with God...if you believe the bible are His words.

Do you believe they are?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Do you believe they are?

I did, not as sure these days...do you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't have to read it to understand that people can't give what they don't have. Nor to I buy the argument that people of religion who don't go homeless themselves are not following the Bible. The Bible also tells us to take in strangers and give them shelter. That doesn't mean in this day and age, I'm about to risk the health and life of my family to give an unknown homeless man a place to sleep.

If you read it you would know that the bible is not asking anyone to go homeless and it very specially states those that show their faith by following God's commands will be rewarded.

You really should try reading something before commenting on it.

I grew up going to Catholic school until the eight grade. I was an altar boy for crying out loud. I do know what I'm talking about. The Bible is not to be taken literally. It is God's will to help out your fellow human being. But it does not mean to follow step by step to what people did hundreds of years ago to help the poor. No priest would suggest driving yourself into poverty to help the poor, or taking strangers into your home these days.

 

[iceberg]

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The idea of imposing a wealth tax on the richest Americans has elicited sharply divergent views across a spectrum of politicians, with President Donald Trump branding it socialist and progressive Democratic presidential contenders Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders prominently endorsing it.

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Among the 4,441 respondents to the poll, 64% strongly or somewhat agreed that “the very rich should contribute an extra share of their total wealth each year to support public programs” - the essence of a wealth tax. Results were similar across gender, race and household income. While support among Democrats was stronger, at 77%, a majority of Republicans, 53%, also agreed with the idea.

Majority of Americans favor wealth tax on very rich: Reuters/Ipsos poll

If this is true, then the experiment called the United States of America as we know it is done....

we tell people to work hard for their success, then when they do and find ways to "win" this game of life, we penalize them for it.

seems like a huge contradiction.

also -as i understand it, this "wealth" tax isn't a 1 time hit. its every year their portfolio is > whatever amount. so the truly rich will pay a "wealth" tax year over year until they fall under that amount. who are we or our gov to set the amount someone can earn? what will push someone to work harder if we set a limit like this?

it's bullshit.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The idea of imposing a wealth tax on the richest Americans has elicited sharply divergent views across a spectrum of politicians, with President Donald Trump branding it socialist and progressive Democratic presidential contenders Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders prominently endorsing it.

snip

Among the 4,441 respondents to the poll, 64% strongly or somewhat agreed that “the very rich should contribute an extra share of their total wealth each year to support public programs” - the essence of a wealth tax. Results were similar across gender, race and household income. While support among Democrats was stronger, at 77%, a majority of Republicans, 53%, also agreed with the idea.

Majority of Americans favor wealth tax on very rich: Reuters/Ipsos poll

If this is true, then the experiment called the United States of America as we know it is done....

we tell people to work hard for their success, then when they do and find ways to "win" this game of life, we penalize them for it.

seems like a huge contradiction.

also -as i understand it, this "wealth" tax isn't a 1 time hit. its every year their portfolio is > whatever amount. so the truly rich will pay a "wealth" tax year over year until they fall under that amount. who are we or our gov to set the amount someone can earn? what will push someone to work harder if we set a limit like this?

it's bullshit.

If we followed Warren's plan, eventually there would be no place to work.

If the federal tax rate were 0%, the federal government would collect 0 dollars. If the federal tax rate were 100%, the government would still collect 0 dollars, because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I grew up going to Catholic school until the eight grade. I was an altar boy for crying out loud. I do know what I'm talking about. The Bible is not to be taken literally. It is God's will to help out your fellow human being. But it does not mean to follow step by step to what people did hundreds of years ago to help the poor. No priest would suggest driving yourself into poverty to help the poor, or taking strangers into your home these days.

Do the Catholics teach that the Bible is not to be taken literally?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

we tell people to work hard for their success, then when they do and find ways to "win" this game of life, we penalize them for it.

seems like a huge contradiction.
.

That is sort of how I feel about all this talk of breaking up companies that have become too "big",

 

[j-mac]

What makes you or this author think that everybody who goes to church has the resources to do that? Last I heard, a survey conducted concluded that most Americans don't have a thousand dollars to spend in the event of an emergency.

It is God's command, not mine or the authors. God also says that he will reward those that do so.

I guess it comes down to if you believe the Bible is really the word of God or not.

It has nothing to do with that. You can only give what you can afford to give. That's it. You can't end up homeless yourself because you want to give to everybody else. Many people are not in the position of giving because they simply don't have it.

I am just telling you what the Bible says. There is a parable about this very thing, found in Mark chapter 12. Try reading it.

Are you a preacher?

Nope. But I did spent the majority of my adult life as a lay leader for many different Christian churches.

Stop right there....You're not a preacher, certainly not my preacher....Yet you come in here using scripture in judgement of others? My faith is between me and my God, and my clergy....YOU have nothing to do with it. So, stay out of it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I grew up going to Catholic school until the eight grade. I was an altar boy for crying out loud. I do know what I'm talking about. The Bible is not to be taken literally. It is God's will to help out your fellow human being. But it does not mean to follow step by step to what people did hundreds of years ago to help the poor. No priest would suggest driving yourself into poverty to help the poor, or taking strangers into your home these days.

Do the Catholics teach that the Bible is not to be taken literally?

Yes, that is what they teach. Otherwise we would be like the Islamists who kill anybody that isn't a Christian themselves. Slavery would be legal since God sanctioned that as well. We just don't do the same things today that they did many years ago.

 

[j-mac]

It makes a difference in what percentage of my income I pay in property tax.

No doubt, and one of the primary reasons we moved from Maryland, to South Carolina....The fact of the matter is that Government has become so bloated, so demanding, something as far as taxation it never should have become....They act like we only labor for their needs, and they allow us to keep what they do....

Enough! Every time I turn around there is a damned tax on something going to cigar smoking fat asses that just waste my money on things I have no say on....

It's hard to compete against Santa Clause. Vote buying is a strategy that's been used by the left since I've been on this planet. Keep voting for us, and not only will we keep giving you X, we promise to give you more. Free college, free healthcare, free paid time off and so forth.

You think Democrats are the only ones that buy votes?

I don't, but they certainly the most prolific....

Trump is running a trillion dollar deficit right now in a good economy at full unemployment. That’s about as prolific as it gets.

Trump isn't running anything to do with the debt....The House is...

 

[The Original Tree]

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The idea of imposing a wealth tax on the richest Americans has elicited sharply divergent views across a spectrum of politicians, with President Donald Trump branding it socialist and progressive Democratic presidential contenders Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders prominently endorsing it.

snip

Among the 4,441 respondents to the poll, 64% strongly or somewhat agreed that “the very rich should contribute an extra share of their total wealth each year to support public programs” - the essence of a wealth tax. Results were similar across gender, race and household income. While support among Democrats was stronger, at 77%, a majority of Republicans, 53%, also agreed with the idea.

Majority of Americans favor wealth tax on very rich: Reuters/Ipsos poll

If this is true, then the experiment called the United States of America as we know it is done....

Socialist countries like Sweeden, and others tried this, and it failed, driving business out of their countries. They had to rescind these taxes and scale back the "free stuff" they were offering everyone, so why are American voters stupid enough to implement policies which failed everywhere else?

 

[j-mac]

Do you believe they are?

I did, not as sure these days...do you?

Oh my, even worse....Keep your religious beliefs to yourself then...Good grief...

 

[j-mac]

I grew up going to Catholic school until the eight grade. I was an altar boy for crying out loud. I do know what I'm talking about. The Bible is not to be taken literally. It is God's will to help out your fellow human being. But it does not mean to follow step by step to what people did hundreds of years ago to help the poor. No priest would suggest driving yourself into poverty to help the poor, or taking strangers into your home these days.

Do the Catholics teach that the Bible is not to be taken literally?

You have doubts in God yourself as you said so what do you care?

 

[colfax_m]

No doubt, and one of the primary reasons we moved from Maryland, to South Carolina....The fact of the matter is that Government has become so bloated, so demanding, something as far as taxation it never should have become....They act like we only labor for their needs, and they allow us to keep what they do....

Enough! Every time I turn around there is a damned tax on something going to cigar smoking fat asses that just waste my money on things I have no say on....

It's hard to compete against Santa Clause. Vote buying is a strategy that's been used by the left since I've been on this planet. Keep voting for us, and not only will we keep giving you X, we promise to give you more. Free college, free healthcare, free paid time off and so forth.

You think Democrats are the only ones that buy votes?

I don't, but they certainly the most prolific....

Trump is running a trillion dollar deficit right now in a good economy at full unemployment. That’s about as prolific as it gets.

Trump isn't running anything to do with the debt....The House is...

That’s objectively not true. The president has signed every tax and spending bill for the last 3 years. He takes credit for spending large sums on the military, for avoiding cuts to entitlements, and for cutting taxes. Be real.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Stop right there....You're not a preacher, certainly not my preacher....Yet you come in here using scripture in judgement of others? My faith is between me and my God, and my clergy....YOU have nothing to do with it. So, stay out of it.

Way to avoid the questions, seems your faith is weak indeed.

I did not initially judge anyone. The question was asked what could Christians do...I provided an answer.

And so far all of you have been arguing with God, and not me...weird

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I grew up going to Catholic school until the eight grade. I was an altar boy for crying out loud. I do know what I'm talking about. The Bible is not to be taken literally. It is God's will to help out your fellow human being. But it does not mean to follow step by step to what people did hundreds of years ago to help the poor. No priest would suggest driving yourself into poverty to help the poor, or taking strangers into your home these days.

Do the Catholics teach that the Bible is not to be taken literally?

Yes, that is what they teach. Otherwise we would be like the Islamists who kill anybody that isn't a Christian themselves. Slavery would be legal since God sanctioned that as well. We just don't do the same things today that they did many years ago.

Wow, they have changed. I am old enough to remember when they said the juice and cracker were actually the blood and body of Christ.

Funny how religions change through the ages but their religious text have not.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No doubt, and one of the primary reasons we moved from Maryland, to South Carolina....The fact of the matter is that Government has become so bloated, so demanding, something as far as taxation it never should have become....They act like we only labor for their needs, and they allow us to keep what they do....

Enough! Every time I turn around there is a damned tax on something going to cigar smoking fat asses that just waste my money on things I have no say on....

It's hard to compete against Santa Clause. Vote buying is a strategy that's been used by the left since I've been on this planet. Keep voting for us, and not only will we keep giving you X, we promise to give you more. Free college, free healthcare, free paid time off and so forth.

You think Democrats are the only ones that buy votes?

I don't, but they certainly the most prolific....

Trump is running a trillion dollar deficit right now in a good economy at full unemployment. That’s about as prolific as it gets.

Trump isn't running anything to do with the debt....The House is...

Trump does not sign the spending bills?

Are you sure about that? plus I am willing to bet you gave Obama all the blame for the debt under him

 

[j-mac]

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The idea of imposing a wealth tax on the richest Americans has elicited sharply divergent views across a spectrum of politicians, with President Donald Trump branding it socialist and progressive Democratic presidential contenders Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders prominently endorsing it.

snip

Among the 4,441 respondents to the poll, 64% strongly or somewhat agreed that “the very rich should contribute an extra share of their total wealth each year to support public programs” - the essence of a wealth tax. Results were similar across gender, race and household income. While support among Democrats was stronger, at 77%, a majority of Republicans, 53%, also agreed with the idea.

Majority of Americans favor wealth tax on very rich: Reuters/Ipsos poll

If this is true, then the experiment called the United States of America as we know it is done....

Socialist countries like Sweeden, and others tried this, and it failed, driving business out of their countries. They had to rescind these taxes and scale back the "free stuff" they were offering everyone, so why are American voters stupid enough to implement policies which failed everywhere else?

Because we don't learn....Socalists don't believe that it failed, only that the other countries must not have done it right....

 

[Circe]

I don't see what people have against getting rich.