Maine’s passage of ‘right to food’ amendment stirs celebration, worry

[danielpalos]

IOW, you would have to raise taxes to fund your giant new welfare program. What other programs are you going to cut to get this funding without further bankrupting the nation?

Not at all. You simply appeal to ignorance of economics.

 

[hadit]

You get them to come here and claim I am wrong.

No, you claim no legal scholar disagrees with you. It should be easy for you to link to at least a dozen who agree with you. Do it.

 

[danielpalos]

And it literally doesn't mean you have a right to a job.

Just like when right-wingers use CRT to claim anyone coming over the border is "illegal".

 

[WinterBorn]

That is why I can't take you seriously, storyteller. Simply making stuff up doesn't mean it is rational and not merely a fallacy. Appeals to ignorance of the law is also a fallacy.




Go ahead and explain, right-winger, how what you tell stories about is any form of "gospel Truth".

The at-will employment laws are completely separate from the laws governing unemployment compensation. That is the simple truth of it.

 

[danielpalos]

You keep claiming that, without any evidence at all. Being employed in a union job does not violate the at-will employment law, despite the fact that employers cannot fired or terminate someone for no reason. Working under a contract does not violate the at-will employment law, despite the fact the employee cannot quit for no reason without being penalized.

Your supposition is simply bogus.

Your whole line of reasoning is nothing but storytelling yet you claim I am the one who is bogus? You need valid arguments for that

 

[WinterBorn]

Employment is at the will of either party, regardless. Especially for any benefits administered by a State.

No. It is at the will of either party strictly for the purposes of employment. It has nothing to do with the UC benefits.

 

[danielpalos]

No, you claim no legal scholar disagrees with you. It should be easy for you to link to at least a dozen who agree with you. Do it.

No. You claim no legal scholar agrees with me. It should get easy for you to find Any legal scholar.

 

[danielpalos]

The at-will employment laws are completely separate from the laws governing unemployment compensation. That is the simple truth of it.

Why do you believe that is the case? No legal scholar agrees with you or you would post a link.

 

[hadit]

A simplification without so much expensive "regulations". Only the right-wing is that ignorant while denouncing, Big Government.

So you believe you can create a massive new welfare program with such great efficiency and little regulation that you would achieve the same multiplier effect as a non-welfare, highly means tested, private-public insurance program that give employers great incentive to ensure only those who actually qualify can collect on it? You pretend that removing the qualification hurdle won't result in massive fraud and many, many people cheating the system to collect far more than they qualify for? I knew you were dogmatic and naive, but that takes the cake.

 

[danielpalos]

No. It is at the will of either party strictly for the purposes of employment. It has nothing to do with the UC benefits.

Why do you believe that?

 

[WinterBorn]

Nobody but the right-wing appeals to ignorance of the law of my logic.

Logic? What logic? The UC benefits are not part of the at-will employment laws at all. They are not connect and there is no abridgement of any rights under the at-will employment laws.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why do you believe that?

Because it is the truth. Show me any evidence that the two are connrected.

 

[WinterBorn]

So you believe you can create a massive new welfare program with such great efficiency and little regulation that you would achieve the same multiplier effect as a non-welfare, highly means tested, private-public insurance program that give employers great incentive to ensure only those who actually qualify can collect on it? You pretend that removing the qualification hurdle won't result in massive fraud and many, many people cheating the system to collect far more than they qualify for? I knew you were dogmatic and naive, but that takes the cake.

One of the reasons for the higher multiplier effect is that the benefits are paid by the employer, not from tax money that would raise taxes.

Dannyboys plan would change that.

 

[hadit]

No. You claim no legal scholar agrees with me. It should get easy for you to find Any legal scholar.

My stance is the law as it stands today. Yours is that the law is wrong. It is on you to provide your evidence. The more you dance around the more obvious it is that you are simply making things up and have no backing at all.

 

[danielpalos]

Logic? What logic? The UC benefits are not part of the at-will employment laws at all. They are not connect and there is no abridgement of any rights under the at-will employment laws.

Go ahead and explain why that is the case. Why does EDD require Good Cause if at-will is not part of employment laws?

 

[WinterBorn]

Why do you believe that is the case? No legal scholar agrees with you or you would post a link.

Oh? And what legal scholars agree with you? I have seen no links posted by you in support of such nonsense.

 

[hadit]

Because it is the truth. Show me any evidence that the two are connrected.

He watched a YouTube video.

 

[danielpalos]

Because it is the truth. Show me any evidence that the two are connrected.

All you have lies and like to bullshit and waste time while learning Nothing.

 

[danielpalos]

My stance is the law as it stands today. Yours is that the law is wrong. It is on you to provide your evidence. The more you dance around the more obvious it is that you are simply making things up and have no backing at all.

I already have. Right-wingers merely seem incompetent and should be controlled more than women in abortion threads.

 

[danielpalos]

Oh? And what legal scholars agree with you? I have seen no links posted by you in support of such nonsense.

No legal scholars disagree with me or you would post a link.