MAGA and die hard Trump supporters..... The difference

[Billiejeens]

I think he's a leftist pretending to be right wing.

I don't think that.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Well I tried.

 

[midcan5]

Trump is for Trump and his cronies, he never was for his base except as votes. You guys finally figuring that out? Took a long time to see the reality in front of you. KInda funny but the show goes on and he is your choice and president, get over it children. LOL x many....

 

[YoursTruly]

You are a perfect example of not enough meds or too many drugs.

 

[YoursTruly]

People would take you a little more seriously if you understood what was Socialism and what was not.

I don't expect the DHTS to even understand what I'm saying, or even the point I'm making.

I'd like to think that deep down, you people understand the benefits of fiscal conservatism and opposing RINO's. But with so much evidence of how FS made this country great to start with and how the RINO's have destroyed FC, and you're still vying for the RINO's.......... There's nothing I can say or the RINO's can do to make y'all understand.

 

[SaxonJackson]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

What we've gotten is more socialism. A never ending war in Ukraine. College tuition funding. Increased spending. 100% funding of the Dept. of Ed. & funding universities. Foreign aid to just about any country with it's hand out. H1-B visa's, by the hundreds of thousands, because Trump says the USA doesn't have talent.


Imagine Trump campaign on what he's done so far:
Spend more than Biden
Attack fiscal conservatives
Keep funding Ukraine and Israel
Continue with foreign aid to every country with their hand out
Get rid of Elon when Elon opposed the MASSIVE BBB
Take ownership of private companies.
Not go after Fauci
Not release the Epstein evidence

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

Had Trump campaigned on what he is actually doing I would have voted for a dirt clod instead. Didn't he just suggest 50 year mortgages? Didn't he just announce that he's going to import 600,000 Chinese? Didn't he recently sign a $3 Trillion spending bill lifting the national debt to nearly $39 Trillion?

For years, the leftoids were calling him a fascist. I was one of the first to run to his defense. But now he's partnering the Federal Government with privately owned companies. Very bad idea. Just as bad as bailing companies out. The Free Market is no place for the Federal Government.

 

[Billiejeens]

I don't expect the DHTS to even understand what I'm saying, or even the point I'm making.

I'd like to think that deep down, you people understand the benefits of fiscal conservatism and opposing RINO's. But with so much evidence of how FS made this country great to start with and how the RINO's have destroyed FC, and you're still vying for the RINO's.......... There's nothing I can say or the RINO's can do to make y'all understand.

I understand math

Do you?

 

[YoursTruly]

I understand math

Do you?

Change the subject for a cheap shot. How RINO of you.

 

[YoursTruly]

Had Trump campaigned on what he is actually doing I would have voted for a dirt clod instead. Didn't he just suggest 50 year mortgages? Didn't he just announce that he's going to import 600,000 Chinese? Didn't he recently sign a $3 Trillion spending bill lifting the national debt to nearly $39 Trillion?

For years, the leftoids were calling him a fascist. I was one of the first to run to his defense. But now he's partnering the Federal Government with privately owned companies. Very bad idea. Just as bad as bailing companies out. The Free Market is no place for the Federal Government.

The current crop of Republicans simply don't understand what made America great to start with.
Small/limited government that lives within it's means. Staying out of the free market. And being tough on crime.

Now RINO's want the government to fix everything.. Things that got broke when they joined forces with the democrats.

Hell, the Bill Clinton era democrats were more fiscally conservative than todays RINO's.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump is for Trump and his cronies, he never was for his base except as votes. You guys finally figuring that out? Took a long time to see the reality in front of you. KInda funny but the show goes on and he is your choice and president, get over it children. LOL x many....

And you believe democrats love and adore Americans?

 

[DonGlock26]

Massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
revenge on the democrats.

I want the deluxe package.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Republicans and democrats are Thelma and Louise driving America off the cliff. most Republicans seem to be focused on Trumps ability to keep driving forward in a straight line

 

[bdtex]

Come back in a year.

Two weeks after the midterms? I'm in.

 

[skye]

Republicans
Party of Trump
MAGA
MAHA

All the same thing - they are all against the ruinous, traitorous Democrat Party -

There are exactly 2 choices -
Help the Democrats destroy the country.
Do everything that one can to stop them.

Exactly that ^^^

 

[YoursTruly]

And you believe democrats love and adore Americans?

No I don't. But the democrats have nothing to do with this.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Anyone who does not question who they support or what they follow is in a religious cult. Full stop. The idolization of politicians to the point of defending every single little thing they do in the United States has poisoned the well of political discussion. You can't have a conversation with religious cultists. They live in their own reality, they will not see reason no matter how hard you try. I fully agree that the Democrats aren't to be trusted, I oppose them on pretty much every single issue - however if someone is incapable of questioning Trump to the point that they believe the Epstein files are a hoax, they are truly lost.

The Epstein scandal is much bigger than Watergate. If Trump truly has nothing to do with Epstein, release the full files and information and be done with it. All this wishy washy going back and forth only makes him look more guilty.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

Yes.

He'd have to be a lot worse than what you described for me to consider a DEI moron and her service animal for president. In fact, he'd have to be satan, himself.

That's how bad she was.

Please spare me (dblack) the lesser of two evils is still evil.

We are getting screwed no matter who we vote for. In once case, they use lube. In the other, we get AIDS.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Anyone who does not question who they support or what they follow is in a religious cult. Full stop.

Oh Janet, that's poppycock.

The idolization of politicians to the point of defending every single little thing they do in the United States has poisoned the well of political discussion.

I would say that it's more like the establishment essentially telling a significant voting block they don't matter.

You can't have a conversation with religious cultists.

They are more tribal than cult. They have limited their view. They no longer see everyone as part of the same collective. The other side is the enemy. That's a tribe.

I fully agree that the Democrats aren't to be trusted, I oppose them on pretty much every single issue

It's their insane leadership. I know many dems who feel homeless because of the stupidity of people like Pelosi (may she be gone as she said in 2026).

however if someone is incapable of questioning Trump to the point that they believe the Epstein files are a hoax, they are truly lost.

That's garbage. I have been saying for a while that we've known about them but we have no controls on them. They can be doctored and we'd never know. It's simply been way to long. And people don't care what they say in total. They only want their opponents names. So they scream and throw

The Epstein scandal is much bigger than Watergate.

What scandal and why is it so much bigger? What do you know that we don't?

If Trump truly has nothing to do with Epstein, release the full files and information and be done with it.

Unless you want Trump to have something to do with it.

All this wishy washy going back and forth only makes him look more guilty.

Oh contraire, it makes the files look less and less trustworthy.

I can't wait for the handwringing when they finally do come out. Why did this take so long???? "Uh....I had to reprimer the jeep".

 

[Eman623]

No one self-identifies as any of the made-up bullshit terms being tossed around here.

 

[Stryder50]

I don't think anyone demands perfection. But dang it. There's just so many flip flops and about faces from Trump. And it's not even been a year.

Which would you rather;

1) One who is ironclad locked into an ideology no matter what changing facts or changing circumstances would suggest to consider need for making a change therefore in one-self's positions, agendas and actions ....

OR

2) One who is able to see the changes of circumstances and conditions AND is willing to change mind, agenda, and goals to adjust to the changes of circumstances now in play ....

????

With Clinton's, Obama's, Biden's, Harris's, Etc. we got rigid lockstep Party demagogues unable to see the shifting situations and conditions; nor able to reset their sails accordingly, especially when such would ruin their personal gain agendas.

With Trump we have a negotiator and deal maker who is able to gauge the current conditions and probable trends and able to reset sails to engage the changing weather gauge to best advantage of our nation.

Persons with intelligence and real world knowledge will not find this a tough equation to solve.