Lost Raiders Owner Mark Davis in talks of moving team to san antonio.

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this is what USMB's resident troll disinformation agent rightwinger ignores when you bring up facts why the raiders wont bin LA next year.when i post facts like this his rebutalls consists of LA RAIDERS 2016.WHAT A FUCKING TROLL.
rightwinger is of course your hero pooper.

While Zelasko is completely incorrect about what the makeup of the Raiders fan base is, she is not too far off base in terms of what the IMAGE of the Raiders fan base is. Fair or not, the Raiders fans are still seen as a violent group of thugs. This despite playing in the same market as the San Francisco 49ers who have a stadium where the bathroom isn’t even a safe place.

Zelasko went on:

I was told this morning on the phone straight out that the LA Coliseum and the Pasadena Rose Bowl have flat said ‘we are not opening our doors to the Raiders.’

This is important because a move in 2015 would mean that the Raiders would need a temporary place to play while the new stadium is being built. The two obvious options? The Coliseum and the Rose Bowl. If both of those refuse to host the Raiders, it could make it very difficult for the team to move to Los Angeles. The Oakland Coliseum would be unlikely to offer the Raiders a short term lease knowing they are just waiting to move to LA, so that leaves them with a rather big problem.


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I GUARANTEE next year when i ask USMB's resident troll rightwinger what happened to his ramblings on the raiders being in LA next year,his standard rebuttal will be LA RAIDERS 2016.

 

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Look at hand job, trying to cover up how wrong he was about the Rams, first off hand job claims that the Rams are the original Los Angeles team. Wrong hand job. the Chargers are the only original Los Angeles team.

Didn't hand job promise the Rams would be in Los Angeles this season? Looks like hand job is a liar!

 

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The Bay Area News Group reporter named Matthew Artz who wrote the Oakland Stadium deal article as "worst by far" which were not going to provide a link or show any publicity about the information he claims. Well in reality whats worst by far is the Carson proposal. The City and County has made a tremendous amount of progress this week. Mayor Libby Schaaf is unwilling to provide no information at this time to leave the media attention out the door. The media claims they received a "copy" to report this information, but it doesn't explain anything were they got the information or what it is. Artz may be using repetitive information that has already been published in the recent articles. The City of Oakland will setup an exclusive private negotiation with Floyd Kephart on Tuesday to discuss his financial proposal if it sounds solid enough or be rejected. The new Coliseum City project could be completed until 2020.

REVEALED: It appears the Bay Area News Group reporter Matthew Artz who wrote the article Oakland stadium as "worst by far" got the information fromNewBallPark.org.Marine Layer the author that manages the websiteNewBallPark.orgwas NOT allowed to publish Floyd Kephart's financial documents of the Oakland Coliseum City project. The documents state it should NOT be shared or distributed to the public, this could lead into an illegal action. Marine Layer has been blogging criticized articles against the Coliseum City project for several years.


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The Raiders are no longer in the mix to relocate. Story and information will be out soon. As for the Chargers they may be caught in a huge anti trust lawsuit preventing them from relocation. That works great for the Rams moving forward... The Kroenke's are currently in Ca in home buying mode.

 

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Hand job still can't admit that he has cluster fucked himself.

 

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This could all mean nothing of course since The Vikings and saints at one time were talking about moving there as well for many years only to see that it was all talk.But this is the Davis family we are talking about though so you cant put anything past them.No reason to believe that Mark isnt an apple that did not fall far from the tree,someone who would put the stadium first ahead of the fans.No reason to believe he is one of those owners like The Rooney family who owns the steelers.a family that values the fans and would never move their franchise to another city.

I of course would much rather see the Raiders stay in Oakland but if they moved,I wouldnt feel too bad.I would have to laugh and say to the Raider fans -How does it feel to have on the wrong shoe now? The Raider fans for the first time would feel the suffering I have for the past 20 years when i lost interest in the NFL when my Rams moved to the midwest.

The Raider fans have never really had to suffer like fans of the Rams in LA have since when they moved,it was at least still in the same state just like 300 miles down the road so Oakland fans could just travel there and it was like going over the hill and back for them on their flight there.

If they move to San Antonio,those raider fans in california will know the suffering myself and LA fans of the Rams went through when they left for the midwest.

The Raiders will indeed be the joke of the NFL thanks to the Davis family if they relocate again.its one thing to right a wrong like Al Davis did moving them back to Oakland because thats where they rightfully belong,that being their birthplace and everything. I would find it hard to believe that the majority of the owners would approve the move though which is required for a team to relocate because the NFL would indeed be a joke letting a team move a THIRD time in so many years. so I sure hope the owners do the right thing and veto the move personally.

The one thing against Davis as well besides that is that its much tougher now for teams to relocate than it was back then in the 90's.after the cleveland browns moved,the NFL got wise and toughed up specific rules and requirements that teams have to pass now to be able to do so.guidelines that are much more strict than what existed back then.

S.A. may be home of Los Raiders - San Antonio Express-News

St Louis isn't even a third of the way from the East Coast of the U S. Anything considered "Midwest" needs to be West of Texas and the Dakotas. which is roughly the center of the country. I would call St Louis "Hillbilly East".

 

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This could all mean nothing of course since The Vikings and saints at one time were talking about moving there as well for many years only to see that it was all talk.But this is the Davis family we are talking about though so you cant put anything past them.No reason to believe that Mark isnt an apple that did not fall far from the tree,someone who would put the stadium first ahead of the fans.No reason to believe he is one of those owners like The Rooney family who owns the steelers.a family that values the fans and would never move their franchise to another city.

I of course would much rather see the Raiders stay in Oakland but if they moved,I wouldnt feel too bad.I would have to laugh and say to the Raider fans -How does it feel to have on the wrong shoe now? The Raider fans for the first time would feel the suffering I have for the past 20 years when i lost interest in the NFL when my Rams moved to the midwest.

The Raider fans have never really had to suffer like fans of the Rams in LA have since when they moved,it was at least still in the same state just like 300 miles down the road so Oakland fans could just travel there and it was like going over the hill and back for them on their flight there.

If they move to San Antonio,those raider fans in california will know the suffering myself and LA fans of the Rams went through when they left for the midwest.

The Raiders will indeed be the joke of the NFL thanks to the Davis family if they relocate again.its one thing to right a wrong like Al Davis did moving them back to Oakland because thats where they rightfully belong,that being their birthplace and everything. I would find it hard to believe that the majority of the owners would approve the move though which is required for a team to relocate because the NFL would indeed be a joke letting a team move a THIRD time in so many years. so I sure hope the owners do the right thing and veto the move personally.

The one thing against Davis as well besides that is that its much tougher now for teams to relocate than it was back then in the 90's.after the cleveland browns moved,the NFL got wise and toughed up specific rules and requirements that teams have to pass now to be able to do so.guidelines that are much more strict than what existed back then.

S.A. may be home of Los Raiders - San Antonio Express-News

St Louis isn't even a third of the way from the East Coast of the U S. Anything considered "Midwest" needs to be West of Texas and the Dakotas. which is roughly the center of the country. I would call St Louis "Hillbilly East".

I cant prove this of course but I honestly think the NFL never did the reasonable and smart thing 20 years ago when the rams left which would have been to realign them in the NFC central which makes far more since than staying in the NFC west since they are much closer to chicago,green bay,detriot,and minnesota than anybody in the NFC west.

BECAUSE you got to remember,the owners never wanted the Rams to leave initially voting against the move only backing down reversing their votes approving of it when the bitch threatened to sue if they tried to block her move.

I think they never the logical thing that makes the most common sense which would have been to realign them in the NFC central because they knew about the out in the escape clause that was in the contract that allowed them to leave after the 2014 season if the stadium was not in the top third tier of all stadiums.

I have a hunch that they never tried to seriously get a team back to LA knowing the Rams had that in their out clause.

mayor James Butts of inglewood has met with kroneke many times last year and has said on fred roggins radio show in LA that he wants to move them there.He had a speech already to go and everything to welcome the Rams back prepared.

word around town is the only reason he did not make the move this year and is holding off for one more year is he wants to give spanos time to get something done in san diego.the chargers are the only team from the AFC the NFL would allow to move in and join kroneke as a second tenant. If kronke had gone ahead and made the move this year,then spanos loses the LA threat for leverage for a new stadium.

thats why i always knew from day one this carson thing was bogus because LA is not an option for the Raiders.san antonio yes but not LA.


season ticket renewals in st louis have dropped by 20% this year because they know they are as good as gone after this season. the fan support was bad enough as it was last year.on a monday night game against the 49ers,steve young said in the pregame show just 5 minutes before the game started-we have an owner who wants to move and I cant blame him.I look around here and all i see is empty seats everywhere.

for a monday night game against their arch rival,thats pretty bad.

 

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More unprovable bullshit from hand job.

 

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This could all mean nothing of course since The Vikings and saints at one time were talking about moving there as well for many years only to see that it was all talk.But this is the Davis family we are talking about though so you cant put anything past them.No reason to believe that Mark isnt an apple that did not fall far from the tree,someone who would put the stadium first ahead of the fans.No reason to believe he is one of those owners like The Rooney family who owns the steelers.a family that values the fans and would never move their franchise to another city.

I of course would much rather see the Raiders stay in Oakland but if they moved,I wouldnt feel too bad.I would have to laugh and say to the Raider fans -How does it feel to have on the wrong shoe now? The Raider fans for the first time would feel the suffering I have for the past 20 years when i lost interest in the NFL when my Rams moved to the midwest.

The Raider fans have never really had to suffer like fans of the Rams in LA have since when they moved,it was at least still in the same state just like 300 miles down the road so Oakland fans could just travel there and it was like going over the hill and back for them on their flight there.

If they move to San Antonio,those raider fans in california will know the suffering myself and LA fans of the Rams went through when they left for the midwest.

The Raiders will indeed be the joke of the NFL thanks to the Davis family if they relocate again.its one thing to right a wrong like Al Davis did moving them back to Oakland because thats where they rightfully belong,that being their birthplace and everything. I would find it hard to believe that the majority of the owners would approve the move though which is required for a team to relocate because the NFL would indeed be a joke letting a team move a THIRD time in so many years. so I sure hope the owners do the right thing and veto the move personally.

The one thing against Davis as well besides that is that its much tougher now for teams to relocate than it was back then in the 90's.after the cleveland browns moved,the NFL got wise and toughed up specific rules and requirements that teams have to pass now to be able to do so.guidelines that are much more strict than what existed back then.

S.A. may be home of Los Raiders - San Antonio Express-News

St Louis isn't even a third of the way from the East Coast of the U S. Anything considered "Midwest" needs to be West of Texas and the Dakotas. which is roughly the center of the country. I would call St Louis "Hillbilly East".

I cant prove this of course but I honestly think the NFL never did the reasonable and smart thing 20 years ago when the rams left which would have been to realign them in the NFC central which makes far more since than staying in the NFC west since they are much closer to chicago,green bay,detriot,and minnesota than anybody in the NFC west.

BECAUSE you got to remember,the owners never wanted the Rams to leave initially voting against the move only backing down reversing their votes approving of it when the bitch threatened to sue if they tried to block her move.

I think they never the logical thing that makes the most common sense which would have been to realign them in the NFC central because they knew about the out in the escape clause that was in the contract that allowed them to leave after the 2014 season if the stadium was not in the top third tier of all stadiums.

I have a hunch that they never tried to seriously get a team back to LA knowing the Rams had that in their out clause.

mayor James Butts of inglewood has met with kroneke many times last year and has said on fred roggins radio show in LA that he wants to move them there.He had a speech already to go and everything to welcome the Rams back prepared.

word around town is the only reason he did not make the move this year and is holding off for one more year is he wants to give spanos time to get something done in san diego.the chargers are the only team from the AFC the NFL would allow to move in and join kroneke as a second tenant. If kronke had gone ahead and made the move this year,then spanos loses the LA threat for leverage for a new stadium.

thats why i always knew from day one this carson thing was bogus because LA is not an option for the Raiders.san antonio yes but not LA.


season ticket renewals in st louis have dropped by 20% this year because they know they are as good as gone after this season. the fan support was bad enough as it was last year.on a monday night game against the 49ers,steve young said in the pregame show just 5 minutes before the game started-we have an owner who wants to move and I cant blame him.I look around here and all i see is empty seats everywhere.

for a monday night game against their arch rival,thats pretty bad.

Here is an a prime example on how what you were saying about the Rams being closer to the east coast being so very true.The cardinals in baseball,their division rivals they play against,all except one,all reside on the east coast being the milwaukee brewers,cincinatti reds,pittsburgh pirates, and the chicago cubs who are in the midwest.

somehow the cardinals in baseball play a division opponent on the very edge of the east coast the milwaukee brewers and a midwest opponent the chicago cubs,yet incredibly,the rams dont play division games against the milwakuee football team the packers,or the football team the cubs?

Thats why I have the theory they never did the smart,logical, and reasonable thing and realigned the Rams into the NFC central where they should have been the last 20 years and were never serious about getting an expansion team in LA the year they were talking about doing so and awarded it to houston instead giving them the Texans and why that group that was talking about bringing an LA franchise to the city back then, was never serious about an expansion team,why they were never serious about it like houston was is because the NFL was aware of the out clause they had in the lease agreement with the city of st lou.

I mean thats the only thing that makes any sense.ever sense the Rams left the NFC west,that rivalry with the 49ers has been dead because there has never been any rivalry with the cities of san francisco and st louis so instead of making everything more difficult for all the other teams on the west coast,why not put the rams in the NFC east where it makes much more sense? Its the only thing that makes any logical sense to me why they never moved them.

With the Rams back in the NFC west next year,this benefits the NFL in a major way because it wont matter that both teams are so horrible now,that rivalry will be renewed as will the rivalry with the minnesota vikings and dallas cowboys which has also been dead ever since they left.

the 49ers and rams rivalry gets renewed even with both teams being bad now because of the history of the two cites dating back a little over 50 years.thats a long time.

Their rivalry is like the bears and packers,chiefs and raiders,even if its a year where both teams are horrible,those two teams form those two divisions,because of their history with the two cities,it means a lot to both the fans and players. when the rams and 49ers play each other now,its no different than if a team like the vikings play the panthers,two teams that have nothing at all against each other cause there is no history between the two.same thing here.that all changes though next year.

Thank god that it fell though for LA back then and they never got that expansion team.I felt the same as many Ram fans in LA did.they didnt want just another team,they want the Rams and ONLY the Rams.

 

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The Rams should go to San Antonio and the Raiders should go to LA.

Nobody cares about the Rams outside of St Louis. The Raiders are an NFL institution.

The NFL would be better with the Raiders in LA.

The Chargers could go there too.

 

[Papageorgio]

The Rams should go to San Antonio and the Raiders should go to LA.

Nobody cares about the Rams outside of St Louis. The Raiders are an NFL institution.

The NFL would be better with the Raiders in LA.

The Chargers could go there too.

Yeah, I don't care for the Rams, nothing good has every come from Cleveland.

 

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The Rams should go to San Antonio and the Raiders should go to LA.

Nobody cares about the Rams outside of St Louis. The Raiders are an NFL institution.

The NFL would be better with the Raiders in LA.

The Chargers could go there too.

i see your still smoking something as usual.

Nobody cares about the Rams outside of st louis? oh really? is that why all polls not only in LA taken in LA but around the country,what teams they would like to see back in LA the most between the Rams,Raiders,and Chargers,that every poll voted the majority wanted the Rams?

ESPN did a nationwide poll and the majority wanted the Rams.

in both the LA times poll and the ESPN nationwide poll taken,the polls were consistant with the Rams coming in first with 65% of the votes,Raiders with 30%,and the chargers dead last at 5%.

Your way off as always,st louis sports fans dont even care if they leave.season ticket sales have dropped by 20% since they know they are as good as gone and most sportsfans dont care out there.

I saw a royals/cardinals game played in kansas city a few weeks ago.I asked about 30 cardinal fans how they felt about the rams going back to LA next year.most said-i could care less,they can have them.only a handful or so said they did not want to see them go.one even said he was a cardinals fan but a chiefs fan,didnt even care about the rams.

and LA contact of mine told me his company sends him down there for business trips for his job once a year in may.He told me that while down there,he saw cardinal jerseys everywhere and Blues jerseys,but he did not spot even one Rams jersey out there.

meanwhile in LA,you go to disneyland or to angels,dodgers,lakers,clippers,ducks or kings games,more and more people are coming out wearing their Rams jerseys the fact they know they are coming back.

raiders will never go back to LA despite what USMB's disinfo agent rightwinger says,the proof is in the pudding they are not going back to LA.check post # 102

the Chargers MIGHT join the Rams a couple years down the road as a second tenant to kroneke.Going to be tough though because spanos has not negotiated in good faith with the city to try and stay there so an antitrust lawsuit might prevent them from leaving.

The Rams honored their lease agreement with the city they signed 20 years ago,they are free to leave because they honored everything they were asked to do in their lease agreement.the city did not honor the lease agreement and are now backpeddling trying to make kroneke look like the bay guy for their incompetence in their desperate attempts to try and keep them.

The chargers though,the major of SD has wisely gone to the NFL to discuss a new stadium because the chargers have not even tried to get anything done with them which is in violation of NFL rules so if it goes to court,they probably wont be allowed to move to LA either.

Now since this thread is about the RAIDERS,LA is not an option for them,get over it...San Antonio would be their only option they would have if they wanted to relocate.LA is not an option,the city doesnt want them there because their colors and logo incites gang violence in LA.when the Raiders left LA,crime dropped drastically,they want to keep it that way.they share the same sentiments UCLA and USC have,they dont want them there.the NFL cant force a city that doesnt want a team there to take them.

Even if the city did want them,they wont get the 3/4 votes from the owners needed to move because the owners are sore at the davis family for suing the NFL to move there.mark davis would have to sell the team and they would have to rebrand their image to get an NFL approval.not happening.

Fred Roggin a radio sportscaster out in LA is the only media source out there that tells it like it is and reports the facts.He has said the same thing i said from day one,that carson was a fantasy and pipe dream just for the raiders and chargers to use as leverage for new stadiums.

the raiders and chargers are doing what disinfo agent kissmy said kronke was doing with the rams saying he made the land purchase for leverage.he has back peddled since then and LIED since then just like i said he would back then and is now claiming he never said the Rams were never coming back.problem he has,is the computer keeps records of your past posts and it shows his words right there in black and white saying that kroneke was just using the land purchase for LEVERAGE for a new stadium.kroneke isnt even talking to the city of st louis,yep thats sure leverage for a new stadium alright.

that troll always has to LIE when he is cornered and proven wrong.

now back to the topic of the RAIDERS.LA is not an option for them,san antonio might be,if they move anywhere,it would be SA.