Looks like Americans need to learn about Trump the hard way

[BothWings]

Thanks, chump....be we already learned about Democrats the hard way.

 

[IM2]

Which of your breathless doom-and-gloom predictions about his first term came true?

None?

So there's no reason to take this list seriously.

500,000 dead fron COVID, 25 million infected.

"Now, America too seems determined to learn the hard way about the dark force of demagoguery. Some might say, “But Trump’s first term didn’t bring the sky down.” What they overlook is that the first time, he was held in check by seasoned figures -- McMaster, Kelly, Milley, Bolton, Barr, et. al., -- the “adults in the room” who served as guardrails. This time, they’re gone. Trump will fill his ranks with sycophants, loyalists without the spine to question or halt his impulses. He’ll have nothing but yes-men willing to serve him without question and he will pepper his cabinet ranks with his oligarch buddies who will 'deconstruct the administrative state'. like termites enjoy a feast. "

 

[IM2]

Thanks, chump....be we already learned about Democrats the hard way.

The words of a fool.

 

[daveman]

The words of a fool.

You know no one has an obligation to change their behavior to save your tender feelings, right? Because I don't think you know that.

 

[IM2]

You know no one has an obligation to change their behavior to save your tender feelings, right? Because I don't think you know that.

When have I said that I GAD about what you sorry right wing scabs think? I posted that what was said were the words of a fool, and another fool decides to add his 2 cents.

 

[skews13]

In a second Trump presidency, expect a scorched earth approach that could fundamentally reshape America and the world for the worse. "America First" will mean isolationism that abandons allies, fuels economic volatility, and drains American power abroad. Massive deportations won’t just disrupt millions of lives; they’ll dismantle industries, fracture communities, and create a humanitarian disaster that will tarnish the U.S. globally. Trump’s soft stance on Russia will only embolden Putin, with Trump likely abandoning Ukraine to destruction and threatening European security. A domino effect could follow -- China eyeing Taiwan, emboldened by America’s retreat, (and they are eying Okinawa islands, as well ) seizing control of the semiconductor industry and holding the U.S. at technological gunpoint.

Most nations have had to endure a demagogue to learn -- often through unbearable hardship -- the brutal consequences of unchecked power and the empty allure of populist rhetoric. Germany had Hitler, who promised national pride and left his country in ruins. Italy’s Mussolini sold visions of empire that led to disaster. Argentina saw Perón, who polarized the nation and left it grappling with his divisive legacy. Spain endured Franco’s authoritarian grip, Venezuela Chávez’s ruinous policies. And in Russia, under Stalin, democracy never stood a chance; his totalitarian control meant that the people had no opportunity to reject his tyranny at the ballot box.

Now, America too seems determined to learn the hard way about the dark force of demagoguery. Some might say, “But Trump’s first term didn’t bring the sky down.” What they overlook is that the first time, he was held in check by seasoned figures -- McMaster, Kelly, Milley, Bolton, Barr, et. al., -- the “adults in the room” who served as guardrails. This time, they’re gone. Trump will fill his ranks with sycophants, loyalists without the spine to question or halt his impulses. He’ll have nothing but yes-men willing to serve him without question and he will pepper his cabinet ranks with his oligarch buddies who will 'deconstruct the administrative state'. like termites enjoy a feast. The polluter corporations will love this, as they destroy our climate, our air, our rivers and lakes and precious soil. Expect rampant corruption and transactionalism. With his newfound belief in “absolute immunity,” he’ll feel emboldened to act without limits, trying things he never dared before. And with those private calls to Putin, he’ll have a seasoned mentor to guide him through “Dictator 101” lessons.

So yes, history repeats itself, and we seem condemned to follow it. Like Germany, Argentina, Spain, and so many others, America might face devastation and finally come to understand the full cost of demagoguery, what it's like to live under autocratic rule. I don't expect we'll become a full fledged dictatorship, but let's be clear, Trump will try and exploit any and every weakness that exists in our system that he can get away with, where the framers assumed the president would be a man who would act in good faith. Man, how wrong they were! And maybe, if we’re lucky, we’ll survive the wreckage, inoculated and wiser for it -- if we can find our way free from his grip in time. So, you think this OP is partisan tripe? Time will most certainly tell. Let's see where we stand in a few years, and watch Dems regain control of the house in the next midterms, as by then, America will see, up close and personal. what this MAGA movement is really about.

• "As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron." -- H.L. Mencken

No truer words could more perfectly describe the rise of Trump.

Now, repubs are going to gloat, and pontificate why Trump won. But, he pandered to the lowest instincts of Americans, he did what all demagogues do; blame our troubles on a group. Hitler did it with Jews, and Trump has done it with immigrants, totally ignoring the fact that the undocs commit far fewer crimes than American citizens, but facts don't matter to a demagogue, the only thing that matters is power, and the more, the merrier. Also, the second big tool he bludgeoned Biden/Harris with was inflation. But for the inflation, given that it's undecideds who decide close elections, Republicans did a good job of bamboozling the masses by blaming the inflation on Biden, never mind the fact that it was CARES act, $2 trillion fiat currency infusion (that was Trump) AND the ARP, another $2 Trillion by Biden, both were done because of the pandemic, and were necessary to prevent and economic collapse, this was the prime mover for the inflation, not to mention the inflation was world wide, and you can't blame Biden for a world wide inflation, but to tell the truth is not something Republicans can do. Also, I fault Biden and Harris for not making this point clear, and they sure as hell could have, and should have.

But for the inflation, I doubt Trump would have won the popular vote, most voted on economics more than any other factor. A lot more than any other factor. It totally obfuscated Biden's major legislative achievements, predominantly the infrastructure program. For the first time since Eisenhower we are rebuilding America, as there are some 60,000 infrastructure projects as we speak. Trump, in his four years as president, with both houses under his thumb, was unable to achieve it. Biden got it done bipartisan in his first 300 days. That totally dismantles the 'he's got dementia' argument. Yeah, you don't agree but I don't give a damn, really, I've heard it all and it's all partisan drivel. If anyone has dementia, it's Trump -- have you been paying attention to his speeches? He's losing it. I doubt he is going to last four years, to be honest.

Yeah, I know, some of you are going to give mindless snarky dumb AF one liners to this OP, and you will be ignored because, frankly, if you voted for Trump, you are not very wise. You've been conned, you've been trump humped. Note that intelligence and wisdom, if they exist in the same human being, it is a coincidence, If you don't believe me, let's see where we stand during the midterms. Two years ought to reveal how Trump is going to ruin America.

Trump isn't the President. He will be playing golf, while his shadow presidential crew makes the decisions. He will just mindlessly sign what they put in front of him.

His league of minions that voted for him, have the job of pointing out why its somebody else's fault none of his promises are happening.

Just like the first time.

 

[MarathonMike]

And now Trump will abandon Ukraine

Or maybe broker a deal where Russia and Ukraine stop this retarded proxy war.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

1. Paper ballots
2. Mail-ins only by excuse, like military
3. Early voting still ok
4. No votes accepted after polls close
5. Early votes counted before election day
6. All votes counted by local midnight on election day.

That would be nice, but the Constitution does not allow for federal control over elections. Any attempt will be tossed by the courts. Each state is independent.

 

[kyzr]

That would be nice, but the Constitution does not allow for federal control over elections. Any attempt will be tossed by the courts. Each state is independent.

OK, then lets hope red states adopt those policies.

I wasn't sure if Congress could put any stipulations on Federal Elections.

 

[Stann]

It's been 72 hours or so. Let's at least wait until he is inaugurated.

I wait until the old reckless maniac trump comes roaring back in.

 

[Stann]

Or maybe broker a deal where Russia and Ukraine stop this retarded proxy war.

Do you think the US would have stopped the Civil War if the South had taken several states in the North. Not going to.happen. Russia invaded and took over parts of the Ukraine. Not only must Russia leave those areas they must pay reparations for all the damages they did to the Ukraine.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

OK, then lets hope red states adopt those policies.

I wasn't sure if Congress could put any stipulations on Federal Elections.

There is no such thing as a federal election. All elections are conducted by the states. There were 51 presidential elections on November 5th, all conducted by the states and the District of Columbia.

 

[The Duke]

Your comment doesn't rise above 'you're wrong'. 'You're wrong' comments without a serious supporting argument that is substantive, is incompetent.

FYI, 'TDS' is a thought-terminating cliche. TTCs are implanted into the minds of gullible followers in order that, when dissent arises about the demagogue leader, the gullible will toss it up in order to kill the conversation. It is also for the purpose of curbing critical thought. As such, is incompetent. The other big TTC is 'fake news'. Trump knows his followers are low educated, and/or stupid, Stupid people are easy to fool, stupid people use juvenile language. it is easy to preload stupid people such that their brains become buckets of thought-terminating cliches. Demagogues like Mussolini and Hitler know this, Putin knows this, and no doubt, during Trump's secret phone calls to Putin, Putin has been giving Trump 'dictator 101' lessons.

You are the perfect example of someone who has been brainwashed by a demagogue. Trumpism is a cult, and you are a cultee. You are hopeless, there is no cure. You, as the OP asserts, will have to learn the hard way. As time passes, the truths of the OP will be revealed.


Trump is a 4x indicted, sex abuser, conman, fraudster, criminal who loves Putin, the 'poorly educated', not to mention that he despises democracy and has betrayed America, and by these facts, is the worst president in history. These are incontrovertible facts, revealed by events, words, deeds, court actions, testimonies of women subjected to his perversions. Republicans have installed two perverts on the SC, and now one in the presidency, and if that wasn't enough,. they have given him 'absolute immunity'. This is a toxic recipe for disaster. This is proof of Republican stupidity taken to the highest level. They are clever, they know how to achieve power, they know how to manipulate masses, and because of this, they are dangerous and are a clear threat to US national security.

And you're about a white dog turd. Fuck you!
You just posted absolute bullshit.
You're a POS liar, and I'm calling you a POS liar. Now prove me wrong!

 

[The Duke]

Sure, in a sea of examples that prove my point, you'll find one that proves yours. Congratulations.

STFU RumpHole.

 

[westwall]

It's going to be a disaster.

For you fascists....yup.

 

[The Duke]

You know no one has an obligation to change their behavior to save your tender feelings, right? Because I don't think you know that.

If he 'on know, he betta axe somebody.

 

[westwall]

Sure, in a sea of examples that prove my point, you'll find one that proves yours. Congratulations.

Awwwww, poor bunghole has a sad....

 

[The Duke]

Trump isn't the President. He will be playing golf, while his shadow presidential crew makes the decisions. He will just mindlessly sign what they put in front of him.

His league of minions that voted for him, have the job of pointing out why its somebody else's fault none of his promises are happening.

Just like the first time.

It seems you have it pretty bad there.
Your fellow Americans aren't going to let anything bad really happen to you, ok?
We're all in this thing together, and if it you ain't with us, you should be.
And that's my opinion!

 

[para bellum]

There is no such thing as a federal election. All elections are conducted by the states. There were 51 presidential elections on November 5th, all conducted by the states and the District of Columbia.

Congress has a Constitutional role as well.

Article 1 Section 4

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

 

[The Duke]

Congress has a Constitutional role as well.

Article 1 Section 4

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Total Constitutional Checkmate. The End.
Well done, sir!

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."

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