Liz Cheney: Trump should not be leader of the Republican Party

[BluesLegend]

She's not a Republican. She's a RINO traitor.

Exposed liberal RINO Liz Cheney will have to go carpet bag it in some other state, Wyoming will never elect her again she's toast.

 

[Anathema]

LOL!! When you find that "perfect" ghost candidate, please tell us who it is!!

It’s not my job to find that candidate. It’s the Republican Party’s job to find that candidate. If they want me (and people like me) to vote for their party.

 

[kyzr]

Just follow the Trump playbook, but be much more presidential.

Thanks for acknowledging that dump is NOT presidential and I add, never was & never will be, period.
-

Trump was the tough medicine we needed. Its unfortunate that he didn't understand the role as president, he was locked-into his TV personality instead of never alienating any voters, like during the 1st debate.
He did a lot of good things, but his management style sucked. Give Trump credit for taking everything they could throw at him and still had a very successful presidency.

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. Operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!

You could also add tanks for China and the "deep state".

 

[watchingfromafar]

He did a lot of good things, but his management style sucked.

Ya, what a guy, he runs and hides while leaving his creditors holding empty bags---

Business bankruptcies
Further information: Legal affairs of Donald Trump § Use of bankruptcy laws

declared bankruptcy six times between 1991 and 2009 due to its inability to meet required payments and to re-negotiate debt with banks, owners of stock and bonds and various small businesses (unsecured creditors). Because the businesses used Chapter 11 bankruptcy, they were allowed to operate while negotiations proceeded. Trump was quoted by Newsweek in 2011 saying, "I do play with the bankruptcy laws—they're very good for me."

The six bankruptcies were the result of over-leveraged hotel and casino businesses in Atlantic City and New York: Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino (1992), Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Castle Hotel and Casino (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009). Trump said "I've used the laws of this country to pare debt. ... We'll have the company. We'll throw it into a chapter. We'll negotiate with the banks. We'll make a fantastic deal. You know, it's like on The Apprentice. It's not personal. It's just business."
Business career of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

Dump was a looser, is a looser and will always remain a looser
couse that be who he is
-

 

[JimH52]

The GOP never embraced Trump. Liz Chaney and her ilk are scared because so many voters see the GOP for the scum that they are. Trump was elected because he acknowledged how poorly government serves the people. The Tea Party brought this to public attention years ago. Trump was an extension of that attitude. His success scares the hell out of the establishment GOP who are only in it for themselves.

Why did Liz vote to impeach Trump? Because Trump is an outsider. He didn't run for office to fatten his own purse, he ran to serve the USA. Such outrageous patriotism cannot be tolerated by the party.

No, Liz Cheney recognized that trump incited the riot at the Capitol. You are just trying to spin the crimes of trump to your satisfaction. Cheney clearly said how she felt about trump and the Capitol mob:

Liz Cheney blames Trump for riots: 'He lit the flame'

 

[JimH52]

The fear comes when Republicans think of the possibility of losing trump supporters.

Where would they go?

Good question. I don't know and I don't care.

 

[JimH52]

Liz Cheney: GOP Shouldn't Be 'Embracing' Trump Anymore

"Somebody who has provoked an attack on the United States Capitol to prevent the counting of electoral votes... that is a person who does not have a role as the leader of our party going forward."

www.mediaite.com

She is Right. The Republican Party needs to return to their political roots. trump does not represent those policies or ideals.

The fear comes when Republicans think of the possibility of losing trump supporters. Who are those supporters? Many are QAnon and outright racist. Does the GOP really want these moral degenerates in their party?

It's difficult to imagine Trump's influence on the party decreasing to any significant degree any time soon.

But I guess the normal Republicans have no choice but to try to win this. The loser has to start a new party without the massive GOP infrastructure. That's huge and long-term lift.

You are so right. I saw a post on Facebook where a disgruntled person, a friend who is vacillating between Dem and Rep, was told to join the "Patriot Party." I just laughed. There is no such party and there may never be such a party. It will take years to create and develop a viable political party.

The GOP is at a critical crossroads...as is our country. They can either reject trump and vote to impeach, which will prevent him from running for political office again...or they can let him off the hook and he will be around their necks for years to come. It is very doubtful that he will be convicted in the Senate. So, it looks like we need to add the Q on the end of GOP to create GOPQ.

As unlikely as it may seem right now, he could come back in 2024 and still have a significant following. I cannot in my widest dreams see voters allowing him to win office again, risking a repeat of the last several months. But stranger things have happened. I hope the real GOP finally understands that trump will always be attached to the QAnon movement and that their chances of governing with him as their leader has becoming less and less likely. Unless some more influential Republicans stand up and say trump is not the leader of the GOP, they will always be struggling with the trumpism/QAnon identity.

 

[JimH52]

LOL Liz Cheney's constituents in Wyoming think she should resign, she has zero credibility.

Please continue years to hang your hope on trump. See how it turns out.....

Cheney's own constituents in Wyoming call on her to resign, exposing your thread as garbage.

That is sad. Wyoming is admitting their relationship to Q.......

 

[JimH52]

The GOP never embraced Trump. Liz Chaney and her ilk are scared because so many voters see the GOP for the scum that they are. Trump was elected because he acknowledged how poorly government serves the people. The Tea Party brought this to public attention years ago. Trump was an extension of that attitude. His success scares the hell out of the establishment GOP who are only in it for themselves.

Why did Liz vote to impeach Trump? Because Trump is an outsider. He didn't run for office to fatten his own purse, he ran to serve the USA. Such outrageous patriotism cannot be tolerated by the party.

I agree with about 90% of your post. Here's where we disagree:
1. 74m voted for Trump, that includes the "real grassroots GOP". The GOP "establishment wing" including "Never-Trumpers" (all ~100 of them) hate Trump, because he was so successful, and they suck.
2. No voters see the GOP as scum, the GOP did not lose one House seat in 2020, so you are just plain wrong. Reality is that the democrats lost House seats, and will lose the House in the 2022 mid-terms.
3. We agree why Liz voted to impeach Trump, which is why Mitt and the other senators voted that the impeachment was constitutional, when it isn't. Because GOP voters now expect results, like Trump's "promises kept" list:

PROMISES KEPT: The Certified Master List of Trump's Historic Accomplishments In Just Two Years!

Record-setting first two years

welovetrump.com

OK. Fair enough. Regarding #2. I see the GOP as scum. I was projecting my attitude onto other voters. Regarding grassroots GOP... I'm not so sure about the ratio of establishment vs grassroots GOP - I've become so disgusted with the whole lot that it's difficult to for me to even like the guy I voted for in the primaries in 2016 (Ted Cruz). The bottom line for me is that it appears that GOP politicians won't even stand up for each other- how can we expect them to stand up for the people they have sworn to serve?

I could support Ted. I think he sees what it takes to win now. Its all about jobs, jobs, jobs. The blue states make up about 74% of the US GDP, while the red states only make up about 24%. Energy production means much more in the red states. IMHO Ted and the other candidates know what policies will win. Just follow the Trump playbook, but be much more presidential.

You mean "presidential" - Like Seditionist Ted?

This is a total reincarnation!

Ted Cruz & Grandpa Munster Are Twins & Here's 9 Times They Looked Spookily Similar

Besides his batty wisdom, his Tea Party politics, and his painfully horrible timing, there's one other thing that defines Republican candidate Ted Cruz. What's that, you ask? Well, it just so happens that Ted Cruz looks exactly like Grandpa Munster…

www.bustle.com

 

[Mac1958]

Liz Cheney: GOP Shouldn't Be 'Embracing' Trump Anymore

"Somebody who has provoked an attack on the United States Capitol to prevent the counting of electoral votes... that is a person who does not have a role as the leader of our party going forward."

www.mediaite.com

She is Right. The Republican Party needs to return to their political roots. trump does not represent those policies or ideals.

The fear comes when Republicans think of the possibility of losing trump supporters. Who are those supporters? Many are QAnon and outright racist. Does the GOP really want these moral degenerates in their party?

It's difficult to imagine Trump's influence on the party decreasing to any significant degree any time soon.

But I guess the normal Republicans have no choice but to try to win this. The loser has to start a new party without the massive GOP infrastructure. That's huge and long-term lift.

You are so right. I saw a post on Facebook where a disgruntled person, a friend who is vacillating between Dem and Rep, was told to join the "Patriot Party." I just laughed. There is no such party and there may never be such a party. It will take years to create and develop a viable political party.

The GOP is at a critical crossroads...as is our country. They can either reject trump and vote to impeach, which will prevent him from running for political office again...or they can let him off the hook and he will be around their necks for years to come. It is very doubtful that he will be convicted in the Senate. So, it looks like we need to add the Q on the end of GOP to create GOPQ.

As unlikely as it may seem right now, he could come back in 2024 and still have a significant following. I cannot in my widest dreams see voters allowing him to win office again, risking a repeat of the last several months. But stranger things have happened. I hope the real GOP finally understands that trump will always be attached to the QAnon movement and that their chances of governing with him as their leader has becoming less and less likely. Unless some more influential Republicans stand up and say trump is not the leader of the GOP, they will always be struggling with the trumpism/QAnon identity.

Yeah, this story is far from over. Trump is the most significant political figure of my lifetime, and there will be plenty of reasons to continue to watch him carefully. And as always, it won't actually be about him - it will be about the behaviors of those around him, those who enable him.

I'll continue to hope that, with Trump, America has hit rock bottom. Through those who blindly worship him, he has showed us how far we still have to go. Okay, well, thanks for that, Mr. Former President. Now we start turning this ship around.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Just follow the Trump playbook, but be much more presidential.

Thanks for acknowledging that dump is NOT presidential and I add, never was & never will be, period.
-

Trump was the tough medicine we needed. Its unfortunate that he didn't understand the role as president, he was locked-into his TV personality instead of never alienating any voters, like during the 1st debate.
He did a lot of good things, but his management style sucked. Give Trump credit for taking everything they could throw at him and still had a very successful presidency.

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. Operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!

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You could also add tanks for China and the "deep state".

pic misses the first tank




labeled "reality "

 

[DrLove]

The GOP never embraced Trump. Liz Chaney and her ilk are scared because so many voters see the GOP for the scum that they are. Trump was elected because he acknowledged how poorly government serves the people. The Tea Party brought this to public attention years ago. Trump was an extension of that attitude. His success scares the hell out of the establishment GOP who are only in it for themselves.

Why did Liz vote to impeach Trump? Because Trump is an outsider. He didn't run for office to fatten his own purse, he ran to serve the USA. Such outrageous patriotism cannot be tolerated by the party.

I agree with about 90% of your post. Here's where we disagree:
1. 74m voted for Trump, that includes the "real grassroots GOP". The GOP "establishment wing" including "Never-Trumpers" (all ~100 of them) hate Trump, because he was so successful, and they suck.
2. No voters see the GOP as scum, the GOP did not lose one House seat in 2020, so you are just plain wrong. Reality is that the democrats lost House seats, and will lose the House in the 2022 mid-terms.
3. We agree why Liz voted to impeach Trump, which is why Mitt and the other senators voted that the impeachment was constitutional, when it isn't. Because GOP voters now expect results, like Trump's "promises kept" list:

PROMISES KEPT: The Certified Master List of Trump's Historic Accomplishments In Just Two Years!

Record-setting first two years

welovetrump.com

OK. Fair enough. Regarding #2. I see the GOP as scum. I was projecting my attitude onto other voters. Regarding grassroots GOP... I'm not so sure about the ratio of establishment vs grassroots GOP - I've become so disgusted with the whole lot that it's difficult to for me to even like the guy I voted for in the primaries in 2016 (Ted Cruz). The bottom line for me is that it appears that GOP politicians won't even stand up for each other- how can we expect them to stand up for the people they have sworn to serve?

I could support Ted. I think he sees what it takes to win now. Its all about jobs, jobs, jobs. The blue states make up about 74% of the US GDP, while the red states only make up about 24%. Energy production means much more in the red states. IMHO Ted and the other candidates know what policies will win. Just follow the Trump playbook, but be much more presidential.

You mean "presidential" - Like Seditionist Ted?

This is a total reincarnation!

Ted Cruz & Grandpa Munster Are Twins & Here's 9 Times They Looked Spookily Similar

Besides his batty wisdom, his Tea Party politics, and his painfully horrible timing, there's one other thing that defines Republican candidate Ted Cruz. What's that, you ask? Well, it just so happens that Ted Cruz looks exactly like Grandpa Munster…

www.bustle.com

Bustle may have missed the best one of all!

 

[DrLove]

Just follow the Trump playbook, but be much more presidential.

Thanks for acknowledging that dump is NOT presidential and I add, never was & never will be, period.
-

Trump was the tough medicine we needed. Its unfortunate that he didn't understand the role as president, he was locked-into his TV personality instead of never alienating any voters, like during the 1st debate.
He did a lot of good things, but his management style sucked. Give Trump credit for taking everything they could throw at him and still had a very successful presidency.

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. Operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!

View attachment 454370
You could also add tanks for China and the "deep state".

Well you got all the talking points and buzzwords in for your Twice-Impeached, failed POTUS.
Hope ya used your Q-pon!

 

[BertramN]

Liz Cheney: GOP Shouldn't Be 'Embracing' Trump Anymore

"Somebody who has provoked an attack on the United States Capitol to prevent the counting of electoral votes... that is a person who does not have a role as the leader of our party going forward."

www.mediaite.com

She is Right. The Republican Party needs to return to their political roots. trump does not represent those policies or ideals.

The fear comes when Republicans think of the possibility of losing trump supporters. Who are those supporters? Many are QAnon and outright racist. Does the GOP really want these moral degenerates in their party?

The GOP spent five decades inadvertently creating these QAnons, but the outright racists were always part of their plan. So, it's accept the Qanon problems that resulted from their political handiwork, or, risk losing a significant portion of their base.


.

 

[kyzr]

Just follow the Trump playbook, but be much more presidential.

Thanks for acknowledging that dump is NOT presidential and I add, never was & never will be, period.
-

Trump was the tough medicine we needed. Its unfortunate that he didn't understand the role as president, he was locked-into his TV personality instead of never alienating any voters, like during the 1st debate.
He did a lot of good things, but his management style sucked. Give Trump credit for taking everything they could throw at him and still had a very successful presidency.

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. Operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!

View attachment 454370
You could also add tanks for China and the "deep state".

Well you got all the talking points and buzzwords in for your Twice-Impeached, failed POTUS.
Hope ya used your Q-pon!

Twice impeached and twice acquitted POTUS. Just shows how desperate the democrats are about losing power in 2022 and 2024.

I notice that you didn't refute any of my "Talking Points". Luv the Qanon meme!

BTW, did you know that Xiden is Qanon too? CNN noted that on his 1st day in office Xiden signed (17) EOs,
"17" is Qanon code for "Q", the 17th letter of the alphabet. <g>

 

[bodecea]

The GOP never embraced Trump. Liz Chaney and her ilk are scared because so many voters see the GOP for the scum that they are. Trump was elected because he acknowledged how poorly government serves the people. The Tea Party brought this to public attention years ago. Trump was an extension of that attitude. His success scares the hell out of the establishment GOP who are only in it for themselves.

Why did Liz vote to impeach Trump? Because Trump is an outsider. He didn't run for office to fatten his own purse, he ran to serve the USA. Such outrageous patriotism cannot be tolerated by the party.

I agree with about 90% of your post. Here's where we disagree:
1. 74m voted for Trump, that includes the "real grassroots GOP". The GOP "establishment wing" including "Never-Trumpers" (all ~100 of them) hate Trump, because he was so successful, and they suck.
2. No voters see the GOP as scum, the GOP did not lose one House seat in 2020, so you are just plain wrong. Reality is that the democrats lost House seats, and will lose the House in the 2022 mid-terms.
3. We agree why Liz voted to impeach Trump, which is why Mitt and the other senators voted that the impeachment was constitutional, when it isn't. Because GOP voters now expect results, like Trump's "promises kept" list:

PROMISES KEPT: The Certified Master List of Trump's Historic Accomplishments In Just Two Years!

Record-setting first two years

welovetrump.com

OK. Fair enough. Regarding #2. I see the GOP as scum. I was projecting my attitude onto other voters. Regarding grassroots GOP... I'm not so sure about the ratio of establishment vs grassroots GOP - I've become so disgusted with the whole lot that it's difficult to for me to even like the guy I voted for in the primaries in 2016 (Ted Cruz). The bottom line for me is that it appears that GOP politicians won't even stand up for each other- how can we expect them to stand up for the people they have sworn to serve?

I could support Ted. I think he sees what it takes to win now. Its all about jobs, jobs, jobs. The blue states make up about 74% of the US GDP, while the red states only make up about 24%. Energy production means much more in the red states. IMHO Ted and the other candidates know what policies will win. Just follow the Trump playbook, but be much more presidential.

Rape Face Cruz?

 

[bodecea]

LOL Liz Cheney's constituents in Wyoming think she should resign, she has zero credibility.

Please continue years to hang your hope on trump. See how it turns out.....

Cheney's own constituents in Wyoming call on her to resign, exposing your thread as garbage.

How many?

 

[bodecea]

She's not a Republican. She's a RINO traitor.

Exposed liberal RINO Liz Cheney will have to go carpet bag it in some other state, Wyoming will never elect her again she's toast.

Wanna bet?

 

[Fueri]

Well, sorry Liz, but maybe the problem is that you've assfucked your constituents with your love of Wall St. and globalism, which is not the foible of only one party, and people are sick of your 'solutions' as they aren't solutions for them, so they felt the need to try something else and that something else was Trump.

It's amazing to me that both parties cannot see that Trump was a result of decades of unrest, not some crazy snapshot in time. They created Trump, both sides of the aisle. He is a symbol of the unrest that has not gone away, as much as they'd both like to dance around and try to kill the idea by shitting on the symbol. That never works and it won't work here either.

The underpinnings of that unrest are very real and remain. There will be another Trump - and that is what really scares these people. He shook their absolute iron grip on power on both sides of the aisle and that scared the living hell out of them. Fuck them all, each and every one of the traitorous bastards. They did it through years of their own malfeasance and it was only a matter of time.

 

[BluesLegend]

Well, sorry Liz, but maybe the problem is that you've assfucked your constituents with your love of Wall St. and globalism, which is not the foible of only one party, and people are sick of your 'solutions' as they aren't solutions for them, so they felt the need to try something else and that something else was Trump.

It's amazing to me that both parties cannot see that Trump was a result of decades of unrest, not some crazy snapshot in time. They created Trump, both sides of the aisle. He is a symbol of the unrest that has not gone away, as much as they'd both like to dance around and try to kill the idea by shitting on the symbol. That never works and it won't work here either.

The underpinnings of that unrest are very real and remain. There will be another Trump - and that is what really scares these people. He shook their absolute iron grip on power on both sides of the aisle and that scared the living hell out of them. Fuck them all, each and every one of the traitorous bastards. They did it through years of their own malfeasance and it was only a matter of time.

And Washington goes right back to screwing over the American people and selling us out to foreign countries.