List the 5 Presidents you most admire and the reason

[gipper]

Obama signs an executive order that is so draconian and tyrannical that some of the people rise up and resort to armed resistance, demanding independence.

In your world, Obama is justified in killing them all and destroying their property because they are traitorous dogs...who dared to try leaving the beloved Union.

Do you fail to see how preposterous your position is?

All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. - Fascist Il Duce
The Union of these States is perpetual. - Statist Abe

a) Those last two quotes are absolutely NOT equivalent, and you know it, you dishonest POS.

b) Lincoln signed no such executive order (quite the contrary), so your analogy is childishly false.

c) Do not attempt to put words in my mouth, you dishonest POS. You are not qualified.

Thank you for your nice post.

My posts have exposed you for your ignorance and intolerance and your love of the state.

Don't blame me for your lack of knowledge.

 

[Unkotare]

My posts have exposed you for your ignorance and intolerance and your love of the state.

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Only in your paranoid little mind.

 

[gipper]

Obama signs an executive order that is so draconian and tyrannical that some of the people rise up and resort to armed resistance, demanding independence.

Or else you could use the courts to invalidate the order

Your choice I guess

Good Lord you are ignorant.

Yeah...the South should have used the courts to grant them secession.

The south should have used Congress to represent their political views. They should have used the courts to defend their so called "property rights". They should have used a free press to convince Americans that owning other human beings was good for the country

That is what patriotic Americans do

If you fail, you accept the fact that slavery is not acceptable in your country

Your lack of knowledge on this subject is enormous.

Lincoln did not persecute the War of Northern Aggression to end slavery. How could you not know this?

He went to war to FORCE people to stay part of a state, when those people no longer wished to be part of that state...and murdered them mercilessly.

The South made many efforts to avoid war...Lincoln made none...but you do not know the facts.

 

[Unkotare]

Lincoln did not persecute the War of Northern Aggression to end slavery. ...

There was no such war, Johnny Reb. It was the American Civil War.

 

[Unkotare]

The South made many efforts to avoid war...Lincoln made none....

You are completely ignorant, completely dishonest, or both. Likely both.

 

[Unkotare]

In every Confederate state except South Carolina, entire regiments were formed to fight on behalf of the Union. More than 100,000 men from the south actively fought against the Confederacy during the war.

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[martybegan]

Obama signs an executive order that is so draconian and tyrannical that some of the people rise up and resort to armed resistance, demanding independence.

Or else you could use the courts to invalidate the order

Your choice I guess

Good Lord you are ignorant.

Yeah...the South should have used the courts to grant them secession.

The south should have used Congress to represent their political views. They should have used the courts to defend their so called "property rights". They should have used a free press to convince Americans that owning other human beings was good for the country

That is what patriotic Americans do

If you fail, you accept the fact that slavery is not acceptable in your country

Your lack of knowledge on this subject is enormous.

Lincoln did not persecute the War of Northern Aggression to end slavery. How could you not know this?

He went to war to FORCE people to stay part of a state, when those people no longer wished to be part of that state...and murdered them mercilessly.

The South made many efforts to avoid war...Lincoln made none...but you do not know the facts.

A country can only be dissolved with the consent of both the people leaving and the people staying. That is the lesson of the American Civil War.

 

[martybegan]

There are many good Presidents. Here are my top five:

George Washington: Started it all. Humble, intelligent, unbelievably gifted. Imagine how fragile everything was at the beginning.
Abraham Lincoln: The very definition of courage and leadership.
Franklin Roosevelt: The right man at the right time. Remember his words to the Joint Chiefs before they come up with Doolittle's raid?
Ronald Reagan: Turned around the disaster that was Jimmy Carter. Started the fire that destroyed the Soviet Union.
Theodore Roosevelt: Talked tough and backed it up right when we needed it. Colonial Europe feared this man.

Honorable Mentions: Dwight Eisenhower, Andrew Jackson, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson.

Dammit, forgot about Teddy.

 

[RKMBrown]

Unkotare declares that there was no civil war between the north and the south... .

I never said that, douchebag. Wipe the shit out of your eyes.

Make up your mind there was a north and south or not. First you say the north was on their land, now you say there was a civil war. Either the south split and the northern invaders started the war by occupying the south then sending armies down south to take the south back... or it was a police action and the south never split. You can't have it both ways dumb ass.

 

[Unkotare]

Unkotare declares that there was no civil war between the north and the south... .

I never said that, douchebag. Wipe the shit out of your eyes.

Make up your mind there was a north and south or not. First you say the north was on their land, now you say there was a civil war. Either the south split and the northern invaders started the war by occupying the south then sending armies down south to take the south back... or it was a police action and the south never split. You can't have it both ways dumb ass.

You are an ignorant buffoon. Do you even know what the term "civil war" means?

 

[RKMBrown]

Unkotare declares that there was no civil war between the north and the south... .

I never said that, douchebag. Wipe the shit out of your eyes.

Make up your mind there was a north and south or not. First you say the north was on their land, now you say there was a civil war. Either the south split and the northern invaders started the war by occupying the south then sending armies down south to take the south back... or it was a police action and the south never split. You can't have it both ways dumb ass.

You are an ignorant buffoon. Do you even know what the term "civil war" means?

Make up your mind. Was the north occupying the south, YES or NO? After south carolina seceded did the troops from the north leave south carolina as told, yes or NO? You claimed the south started the fight. You are either the dumbest guy on the planet or lying.

 

[Unkotare]

Do you know what the term "civil war" means?

 

[Unkotare]

NO country recognized 'the Confederacy' as a separate, sovereign nation - ever. It was the traitors only hope that at least a few would, but none did.

 

[RKMBrown]

NO country recognized 'the Confederacy' as a separate, sovereign nation - ever. It was the traitors only hope that at least a few would, but none did.

Yes or no dumb ass. Did south carolina secede. YES OR NO?

 

[guno]

Washington
Jefferson
Lincoln
Reagan
W

FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT- gave people hope through Great Depression and WW II

Harry Truman -finished off the nips

 

[Unkotare]

NO country recognized 'the Confederacy' as a separate, sovereign nation - ever. It was the traitors only hope that at least a few would, but none did.

Yes or no dumb ass. Did south carolina secede. YES OR NO?

The traitors 'declarations' were never legitimate and were never recognized as such. Just how fucking stupid are you?

 

[RKMBrown]

NO country recognized 'the Confederacy' as a separate, sovereign nation - ever. It was the traitors only hope that at least a few would, but none did.

Yes or no dumb ass. Did south carolina secede. YES OR NO?

The traitors 'declarations' were never legitimate and were never recognized as such. Just how fucking stupid are you?

Your an idiot. There is no liberty then. What you are talking about is a prisoner society in which states can join but they can never leave, and if they try they will be murdered.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama signs an executive order that is so draconian and tyrannical that some of the people rise up and resort to armed resistance, demanding independence.

Or else you could use the courts to invalidate the order

Your choice I guess

Good Lord you are ignorant.

Yeah...the South should have used the courts to grant them secession.

The south should have used Congress to represent their political views. They should have used the courts to defend their so called "property rights". They should have used a free press to convince Americans that owning other human beings was good for the country

That is what patriotic Americans do

If you fail, you accept the fact that slavery is not acceptable in your country

Your lack of knowledge on this subject is enormous.

Lincoln did not persecute the War of Northern Aggression to end slavery. How could you not know this?

He went to war to FORCE people to stay part of a state, when those people no longer wished to be part of that state...and murdered them mercilessly.

The South made many efforts to avoid war...Lincoln made none...but you do not know the facts.

Still trying to sell that revisionist crap aren't you?

Lincoln wanted to "preserve the union"
The South broke up the union because of a desire to maintain slavery

Therefore the war was about slavery....no matter how you spin it

 

[Unkotare]

Your [sic] an idiot. ...

 

[Roadrunner]

Unkotare declares that there was no civil war between the north and the south... .

I never said that, douchebag. Wipe the shit out of your eyes.

Make up your mind there was a north and south or not. First you say the north was on their land, now you say there was a civil war. Either the south split and the northern invaders started the war by occupying the south then sending armies down south to take the south back... or it was a police action and the south never split. You can't have it both ways dumb ass.

You are an ignorant buffoon. Do you even know what the term "civil war" means?

Make up your mind. Was the north occupying the south, YES or NO? After south carolina seceded did the troops from the north leave south carolina as told, yes or NO? You claimed the south started the fight. You are either the dumbest guy on the planet or lying.

The South fired the first shots.

Way stupid.