List of Death Risks in the United States: Where does COVID Rank?

[Rigby5]

We are doing things to mitigate those risks. Have been doing so for decades. Thing is, none of those things are contagious

Why would you claim we should do nothing about COVID?

We should not just do nothing.
We should end it as quickly as possible, in order to reduce the death toll to as few as possible.
Problem is we are instead preventing it from ending, by "flattening the curve".
The best way to end it is to use up all the easy hosts, and deliberate infection is the best way to do that.
We could have done it last March and saved 550,000 lives.

But these vaccines are terrible.
They are much to wide, since they only contain spike proteins, and we need spike proteins in order to survive.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Ah. You're not very good at it.

I don't know why I'm surprised.

Son you've bought into the big lie.

 

[EvMetro]

Actually, according to conservative misinformation, those 614,000 deaths were probably from a car accident and reported as COVID

Birx is not a righty

 

[Crepitus]

Son you've bought into the big lie.

Lol! Sure, sure. Let's go with that.

 

[EMH]

Covid 19 killed 30k Americans last spring, and left.

Covid 19 and delta fraudulent are not killing anyone.

The vax is.

Traitors in the fascist healthcare system are using the lie of "you have Covid" to bring you in, and you leave in a box.... "From Covid" of course.....

 

[Rigby5]

Sigh.....

Can being in close proximity to another human being give you..
1) Heart disease?...no.
2) Cancer?...no.
3) Resp disease?..no...Infection?...yes.
4) Opiod OD?....yes..if they give you the pills. No if you take them while alone.
5) Fall....LOL.. Depends on the person you're with and how close to a cliff or the edge of a building you are.
6) Car Crash?...no..unless they are driving the car.
7)) Ah...you know where I'm headed.

The point is you and others who think like you are bent and determined to downplay the virus as something of low risk that
should be largely ignored because of like minded politicians and alt-right media. So any real preventative measures are met
with skepticism and sometimes outright derision.

This virus doesn't care about your sex, your age, what you identify as, your social or financial standing, or what political party you belong to.
Science has told us that it is highly contagious and infectious, especially with the new variant. It spreads easily, especially in crowds, and you don't
have to be exposed to it long to get infected. Science has shown us that the vaccine is effective in preventing you from getting really sick and
in most people will prevent breakthrough infections from becoming killers. The numbers have shown us this past outbreak has been caused largely
by the ignorant unvaccinated..not the vaccinated. The virus is working its way down into children because they can't get vaccinated. andenough of the adults around them have
selfishly decided NOT to get vaccinated.

You are right in one thing though. Opposition to restrictions, safeguards, mandates, rules, the vaccine...are all political.

But that totally ignores science, and science tells us that the reason the FDA has not approved these vaccines is because they could easily kill every single person who took them.
You can't claim the vaccines are beneficial when you have no idea what their risks are?
Could be 100% fatal.

 

[JoeBlow]

Actually, according to conservative misinformation, those 614,000 deaths were probably from a car accident and reported as COVID

Actually, most of them were old people who died WITH covid. Not OF covid.

 

[postman]

That is probably ridiculously high, since most of the so-called 600k figures are people who died "with" covid or "with cold or flu symptoms. Most of this 0.05 figure likely belongs in the other categories like heart disease.

Actually the best clue for the clueless is taking the mortality figures from 2015 thru 2020, and see how they compare year after year. And in that you will find that the deaths from heart disease were steady all the way through 2020 plus minus a percent or two. Same with deaths from cancer. So the first two leading causes of death didn't see any decrease in 2020, meaning deaths weren't shifted into another category.

And in 2020 you had 345,000 more deaths than in any of the previous 5 years.

 

[danielpalos]

Fake news

Yes, right-wingers are Fake News.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Lol! Sure, sure. Let's go with that.

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I already have.

 

[postman]

We should not just do nothing.
We should end it as quickly as possible, in order to reduce the death toll to as few as possible.
Problem is we are instead preventing it from ending, by "flattening the curve".
The best way to end it is to use up all the easy hosts, and deliberate infection is the best way to do that.
We could have done it last March and saved 550,000 lives.

Recalculate. Had we gone the "herd immunity" route, there would have been an estimated 2.4 million deaths, making COVID the leading cause of death in the USA.

 

[EvMetro]

Actually the best clue for the clueless is taking the mortality figures from 2015 thru 2020, and see how they compare year after year. And in that you will find that the deaths from heart disease were steady all the way through 2020 plus minus a percent or two. Same with deaths from cancer. So the first two leading causes of death didn't see any decrease in 2020, meaning deaths weren't shifted into another category.

And in 2020 you had 345,000 more deaths than in any of the previous 5 years.

I'll just go with what Birx said. She is the one who spilled the beans on all the political math.

 

[postman]

Covid 19 killed 30k Americans last spring, and left.

Covid 19 and delta fraudulent are not killing anyone.

The vax is.

I see we can't fix stupid.

 

[EvMetro]

Recalculate. Had we gone the "herd immunity" route, there would have been an estimated 2.4 million deaths, making COVID the leading cause of death in the USA.

Political math is exactly what it sounds like.

 

[EMH]

I see we can't fix stupid.

This from a beaked birdbrain cuckoo clock pretending to be human....

 

[postman]

But that totally ignores science, and science tells us that the reason the FDA has not approved these vaccines is because they could easily kill every single person who took them.

Actually the FDA hasn't approved the vaccines is because it requires a 1-2 year followup study of any side effects over an extended period of time.

 

[EMH]

Recalculate. Had we gone the "herd immunity" route, there would have been an estimated 2.4 million deaths, making COVID the leading cause of death in the USA.

There is no evidence of that.

CDC did document that your side lied 94% of the time about Covid deaths.

Now, that 600k figure, what is 6% of that?

A number that puts the US and Japan in the same percent death rate.....

 

[postman]

Actually, most of them were old people who died WITH covid. Not OF covid.

Just like old people die "with" a broken hip, and not from it.

 

[Rigby5]

The misinformation from the right is that COVID has never been a big deal. No worse than the common cold or seasonal flu.
According to the OP, you are more likely to die of heart disease or a car accident. So why worry about COVID?

That is not the argument.
The argument is that traditionally you end epidemics by deliberate infection of those likely to not be harmed by it.
Instead we waited a year and a half for very risky vaccines that could have vastly more dangerous long term lethal effects.

 

[danielpalos]

Actually, most of them were old people who died WITH covid. Not OF covid.

This is what we were trying to prevent with vaccinations and masks:

Now that the Delta variant is spreading widely in the United States, physicians are seeing a worrying trend of younger people ending up in the ICU.

COVID-19 Risk Factors: A Comprehensive List

We review the risk factors that could put you most at risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19, and the measures you can take to minimize your risk.

www.healthline.com

We should have learned more from history but for right-wing obstruction while alleging they have the "gospel Truth" instead of just right-wing fantasy.

From September through November of 1918, the death rate from the Spanish flu skyrocketed. In the United States alone, 195,000 Americans died from the Spanish flu in just the month of October. And unlike a normal seasonal flu, which mostly claims victims among the very young and very old, the second wave of the Spanish flu exhibited what’s called a “W curve”—high numbers of deaths among the young and old, but also a huge spike in the middle composed of otherwise healthy 25- to 35-year-olds in the prime of their life.

“That really freaked out the medical establishment, that there was this atypical spike in the middle of the W,” says Harris.

Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Flu Pandemic Was So Deadly | HISTORY

The first strain of the Spanish Flu wasn’t particularly deadly. Then it came back in the fall with a vengeance.

www.history.com