LINK: Bush Deal Prevented Gadhafi From Using Nukes

[JRK]

Bush Deal Prevented Gadhafi From Using Nukes
Bush Deal Prevented Gadhafi From Using Nukes
THIS came after we invaded Iraq
One of the real reason's for the invasion

 

[L.K.Eder]

iraq was invaded to prevent gaddafi from using nukes that he did not have years later on his own people?

 

[Dr.Drock]

"Iran and North Korea, who have often been urged by the West to follow Libya’s example, may conclude that Colonel Qaddafi made a fatal error."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/02/world/middleeast/02arms.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Trade one disaster for another, just what meddling in the middle east brings about.

 

[JRK]

iraq was invaded to prevent gaddafi from using nukes that he did not have years later on his own people?

The amount of spin with this entire event led this country on an event that concluded with BHO being elected
The Iraq invasion was to establish a base in the middle east in a strategic location that we could keep a presence in a country that is not 3rd world such as Afghanistan is.

From fighting the enemy on his territory to keeping his neighbors in check, the Iraqi invasion was the correct thing to do

here we are 7 years removed from Gaddafi giving up his WMDs finding a place in history that will go un noticed because of the agenda

 

[L.K.Eder]

iraq was invaded to prevent gaddafi from using nukes that he did not have years later on his own people?

The amount of spin with this entire event led this country on an event that concluded with BHO being elected
The Iraq invasion was to establish a base in the middle east in a strategic location that we could keep a presence in a country that is not 3rd world such as Afghanistan is.

From fighting the enemy on his territory to keeping his neighbors in check, the Iraqi invasion was the correct thing to do

here we are 7 years removed from Gaddafi giving up his WMDs finding a place in history that will go un noticed because of the agenda

but how was babby formed, professor?

 

[JBeukema]

The OP is an idiot. If Bush did right with Libya, argue that point on its own merits. Iraq is another matter entirely.

 

[JBeukema]

The Iraq invasion was to establish a base in the middle east in a strategic location that we could keep a presence

Isn't that what Isra-El is for?

 

[JRK]

iraq was invaded to prevent gaddafi from using nukes that he did not have years later on his own people?

The amount of spin with this entire event led this country on an event that concluded with BHO being elected
The Iraq invasion was to establish a base in the middle east in a strategic location that we could keep a presence in a country that is not 3rd world such as Afghanistan is.

From fighting the enemy on his territory to keeping his neighbors in check, the Iraqi invasion was the correct thing to do

here we are 7 years removed from Gaddafi giving up his WMDs finding a place in history that will go un noticed because of the agenda

but how was babby formed, professor?

1) no nukes, but radiation = dirty bomb
he also gave up other items such as
2) I am not sure what "babby" is
BBC NEWS | Africa | Libya to give up WMD

 

[JRK]

The OP is an idiot. If Bush did right with Libya, argue that point on its own merits. Iraq is another matter entirely.

It is my opinion that the very reason we have a base in IRAQ that will have 50,000 troops is to influence those events
Saddam needed removing, he was a nut
The region was in desperate need of some sense of order
where would this region be without it?
Better?
worse?

 

[JBeukema]

First you want to talk about Libya and now you want to talk about Iraq?

'Look, we need to support Israel because without going into Korea, VietNam would have been worse off and China would have invaded America. We can't let dictators like the Shah rule in Jordan'

 

[JRK]

First you want to talk about Libya and now you want to talk about Iraq?

'Look, we need to support Israel because without going into Korea, VietNam would have been worse off and China would have invaded America. We can't let dictators like the Shah rule in Jordan'

the point if the thread are they are related when it comes to the region
the media refused to acknowledge any thing about Iraq except bad
I think it prudent to expos all sides of the issue
BBC NEWS | Africa | Libya to give up WMD

 

[BlindBoo]

Libyia never had nukes. After 17 years of sanctions they were rewarded by the international community for ........

<snip>
Tony Blair said that nine months of intensive negotiations between Britain, the United States and Libya had resulted in Colonel Gaddafi's decision to abandon all efforts to develop any chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
.......

But while last night's announcement came as a surprise, Libya has been making strenuous efforts in recent years to lose its status as a "rogue nation" and to return to the international fold in order to restart trading with the US after 17 years of sanctions.

Before relations between the North African country and the West soured utterly in the 1980s, a number of Western oil companies operated in Libya.

There was also a suspicion that last night's announcements were stage-managed to divert attention from the failure of the US and Britain to discover any WMD in Iraq - the purported reason for the invasion. The US revealed this week that it was in effect giving up the search for such weapons in Iraq.

Libya's willingness to give up its WMD program is essentially another step in the process that was started earlier this summer when it agreed to accept responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing and to pay $10m (£5.6m) in compensation to the relatives of each of the 270 people killed in the 1988 attack on the airliner.

Libya has been making efforts to return to the international fold and develop closer trade links with the West since 1999, when it handed over two Libyan suspects to stand trial under Scottish law at a purpose-built court in the Netherlands. In January 2001, one of those suspects, Abdel Basset al-Megrahi, was convicted. His co-accused was cleared.
</snip>

Libya Gives Up Nuclear and Chemical Weapons

 

[JRK]

Libyia never had nukes. After 17 years of sanctions they were rewarded by the international community for ........

<snip>
Tony Blair said that nine months of intensive negotiations between Britain, the United States and Libya had resulted in Colonel Gaddafi's decision to abandon all efforts to develop any chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
.......

But while last night's announcement came as a surprise, Libya has been making strenuous efforts in recent years to lose its status as a "rogue nation" and to return to the international fold in order to restart trading with the US after 17 years of sanctions.

Before relations between the North African country and the West soured utterly in the 1980s, a number of Western oil companies operated in Libya.

There was also a suspicion that last night's announcements were stage-managed to divert attention from the failure of the US and Britain to discover any WMD in Iraq - the purported reason for the invasion. The US revealed this week that it was in effect giving up the search for such weapons in Iraq.

Libya's willingness to give up its WMD program is essentially another step in the process that was started earlier this summer when it agreed to accept responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing and to pay $10m (£5.6m) in compensation to the relatives of each of the 270 people killed in the 1988 attack on the airliner.

Libya has been making efforts to return to the international fold and develop closer trade links with the West since 1999, when it handed over two Libyan suspects to stand trial under Scottish law at a purpose-built court in the Netherlands. In January 2001, one of those suspects, Abdel Basset al-Megrahi, was convicted. His co-accused was cleared.
</snip>

Libya Gives Up Nuclear and Chemical Weapons

It is unclear as to the point of your thread
My point is simple
the reasons for us to have a place to fight the war on terror where equal to the reasons we had to remove Saddam Hussein from his role in the middle east
WMDs where just a part of the process, it became because the left wing media chose it to the only item people thought we went there for
Saddam broke so many resolutions the U.N. had on him I am not sure where to start, this would include over 500 munitions found that the war heads where loaded with banned material
Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says

The threads intent was clear

 

[Two Thumbs]

sorry jrk, can't follow your "thinking".

Libya is a crap hole, gaddafis days are numbered, no one is dumb enough to nuke his own people.

 

[JRK]

sorry jrk, can't follow your "thinking".

Libya is a crap hole, gaddafis days are numbered, no one is dumb enough to nuke his own people.

Thats OK with me
with respect
the world changed on 9-11-2001
I have always been to the mind set the reasons we went to Iraq where many

Saddam gassed his own people

the headline stated nukes (the event in 04 in Libya)
the content talks about WMDs as well as nukes (Libya and the event of 04)
without the event perhaps Gaddafi does the same? (gas his own people)
And god forbid what would he do if he had a nuke?

Its a thought
Its a way we look at events or we choose not to
it is an opinion
have a good day

 

[BlindBoo]

Libyia never had nukes. After 17 years of sanctions they were rewarded by the international community for ........

<snip>
Tony Blair said that nine months of intensive negotiations between Britain, the United States and Libya had resulted in Colonel Gaddafi's decision to abandon all efforts to develop any chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
.......

But while last night's announcement came as a surprise, Libya has been making strenuous efforts in recent years to lose its status as a "rogue nation" and to return to the international fold in order to restart trading with the US after 17 years of sanctions.

Before relations between the North African country and the West soured utterly in the 1980s, a number of Western oil companies operated in Libya.

There was also a suspicion that last night's announcements were stage-managed to divert attention from the failure of the US and Britain to discover any WMD in Iraq - the purported reason for the invasion. The US revealed this week that it was in effect giving up the search for such weapons in Iraq.

Libya's willingness to give up its WMD program is essentially another step in the process that was started earlier this summer when it agreed to accept responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing and to pay $10m (£5.6m) in compensation to the relatives of each of the 270 people killed in the 1988 attack on the airliner.

Libya has been making efforts to return to the international fold and develop closer trade links with the West since 1999, when it handed over two Libyan suspects to stand trial under Scottish law at a purpose-built court in the Netherlands. In January 2001, one of those suspects, Abdel Basset al-Megrahi, was convicted. His co-accused was cleared.
</snip>

Libya Gives Up Nuclear and Chemical Weapons

It is unclear as to the point of your thread
My point is simple
the reasons for us to have a place to fight the war on terror where equal to the reasons we had to remove Saddam Hussein from his role in the middle east
WMDs where just a part of the process, it became because the left wing media chose it to the only item people thought we went there for
Saddam broke so many resolutions the U.N. had on him I am not sure where to start, this would include over 500 munitions found that the war heads where loaded with banned material
Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says

The threads intent was clear

Clearly Libyia could not use Nuclear weapons because they never had any to begin with, not because of anything the Bush Administration did.

The only viable link between the two, Iraq and Libyia is "There was also a suspicion that last night's announcements were stage-managed to divert attention from the failure of the US and Britain to discover any WMD in Iraq - the purported reason for the invasion."

The only reason the American public supported the invasion and occuation of Iraq was the Bush Administrations insistance that they had WMD ready to deploy to a vast army of worldwide terrorist with sleeper cells ready to put a mushroom cloud over any given US city.

If your going to use the UN as justification please list the UNSCR that authorized the military action in the wake of either Saddam not co-operating with the weapons inspectors per SCR 1441, or the fact that the weapons inspectors found the WMD sought in SCR 1441.

Oh and they were looking for evidence that he was producing and stockpiling new weapons, not lost weapons left over from the days when Saddam was receiving support from the USA.

 

[BlindBoo]

sorry jrk, can't follow your "thinking".

Libya is a crap hole, gaddafis days are numbered, no one is dumb enough to nuke his own people.

Thats OK with me
with respect
the world changed on 9-11-2001
I have always been to the mind set the reasons we went to Iraq where many

Saddam gassed his own people

the headline stated nukes (the event in 04 in Libya)
the content talks about WMDs as well as nukes (Libya and the event of 04)
without the event perhaps Gaddafi does the same? (gas his own people)
And god forbid what would he do if he had a nuke?

Its a thought
Its a way we look at events or we choose not to
it is an opinion
have a good day

Iraq was taken off the countries who support terrorist list in 1982 by the RAygun Administration. That allow Saddam to purchase duel use equipement necessary to produce such weapons. It was known to the Raygun Administration that Saddam used gas on the battlefield against Iranian soldiers as well as on the Kurds while receiving support from the US. What was that Administration response 25 years ago?

 

[JRK]

sorry jrk, can't follow your "thinking".

Libya is a crap hole, gaddafis days are numbered, no one is dumb enough to nuke his own people.

Thats OK with me
with respect
the world changed on 9-11-2001
I have always been to the mind set the reasons we went to Iraq where many

Saddam gassed his own people

the headline stated nukes (the event in 04 in Libya)
the content talks about WMDs as well as nukes (Libya and the event of 04)
without the event perhaps Gaddafi does the same? (gas his own people)
And god forbid what would he do if he had a nuke?

Its a thought
Its a way we look at events or we choose not to
it is an opinion
have a good day

Iraq was taken off the countries who support terrorist list in 1982 by the RAygun Administration. That allow Saddam to purchase duel use equipement necessary to produce such weapons. It was known to the Raygun Administration that Saddam used gas on the battlefield against Iranian soldiers as well as on the Kurds while receiving support from the US. What was that Administration response 25 years ago?

And what does this have to do with that?
Reagan acted foolishly
Saddam's use of these weapons and the directive he was given just 5 years after the shipment of the gas and 3 years after he gassed his own people where ignored
Saddam chose to use these weapons in a manner that maybe was not the intent

There is allot of these accusations that have 2 sides to the stories that can be found simply by goggling them

but it does appear much of the WMDs Saddam had we did have a part in getting them for him in directly or directly