Limp Richard - Alvin Bragg - Fails to launch!

Sooooo...what has Trump been charged with? :dunno:

Anybody??? Anybody??? Bueller?

The fact is...nobody knows. I don't know...you don't know...Trump doesn't know...the judge doesn't even know.

DA Alvin Bragg (AKA: Limp Richard) claims that Trump falsified 34 business records in order to hide some monstrous super crime.

And then he never included what that monstrous super crime was :auiqs.jpg:

Has IM2 been moonlighting as the NY DA? :laughing0301:
DA Oink-Oink, brings a nothing burger case to court! :laughing0301:
 
The defendant DONALD J. TRUMP repeatedly and fraudulently falsified NewYork business records to conceal criminal conduct that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election.

From August 2015 to December 2017, the Defendant orchestrated a scheme with others to influence the 2016 presidential election by identifying and purchasing negative information about him to suppress its publication and benefit the Defendant’s electoral prospects. In order to execute the unlawful scheme, the participants violated election laws and made and caused false entries in the business records of various entities in New York. The participants also took steps that mischaracterized, for tax purposes, the true nature of the payments made in furtherance of the scheme.

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Was he charged with that?

I seem to have missed that part in the indictment.
The indictment is all about falsifying business records, normally a misdemeanor but rises to a felony if it used to conceal or commit an additional crime. What you are looking for is in the Statement of Facts, specifically, point number 2.
 
We hereby charge you with the crime of...errrrrrrr..............something!
 
This kangaroo court doesn't meet again until december 4th.

Can you say "election interference"?
 
Which is???????????????????????
I already posted two different crimes that would have pushed the charges into the felony class. The tax one was here,


knowing that a written instrument contains a false statement or
false information, and with intent to defraud the state or any political
subdivision, public authority or public benefit corporation of the
state, he or she offers or presents it to a public office, public
servant, public authority or public benefit corporation with the
knowledge or belief that it will be filed with, registered or recorded
in or otherwise become a part of the records of such public office,
public servant, public authority or public benefit corporation;
 
I already posted two different crimes that would have pushed the charges into the felony class.

And Trump has not been specifically charged with either.

You're just talking out of your asshole.

And maybe he did it with the intent of murdering somebody...and we all know murder is illegal...but he hasn't been charged with murder.
 
And Trump has not been specifically charged with either.

You're just talking out of your asshole.

And maybe he did it with the intent of murdering somebody...and we all know murder is illegal...but he hasn't been charged with murder.
Jesus Christ, how hard is it to understand, Trump doesn't have to be charged with the underlying crime. The fact is, and as much was stated in the Statement of Facts, Micheal Cohen has already plead guilty to federal campaign finance charges and served time. AMI admitted guilt in their non-prosecutorial agreement with the federal government in that same campaign finance investigation. It was the attempted cover-up of that crime, by Trump, that supports the felony upgrade of the crime of filing false business statements.

I mean damn, if your friend robs a damn bank, and you launder the money, do you have to be charged with the bank robbery in order to be convicted of money laundering? This is the same damn thing.
 
Jesus Christ, how hard is it to understand, Trump doesn't have to be charged with the underlying crime.

Your stupidity is on a level unknown to even retarded people.

What is the purpose of an INDICTMENT?

It's to inform the defendant what he's being accused of SO HE CAN DEFEND HIMSELF!

How the blankety blank blank is Trump supposed to defend himself when he doesn't know what he's being accused of?

And yes...he DOES need to be charged with an underlying crime and it has to be a felony. If not than the 34 counts are misdemeanors and the statute of limitations has run out.
 
Your stupidity is on a level unknown to even retarded people.

What is the purpose of an INDICTMENT?

It's to inform the defendant what he's being accused of SO HE CAN DEFEND HIMSELF!

How the blankety blank blank is Trump supposed to defend himself when he doesn't know what he's being accused of?

And yes...he DOES need to be charged with an underlying crime and it has to be a felony. If not than the 34 counts are misdemeanors and the statute of limitations has run out.
No, he does not need to charged with the underlying crime. Hell, he doesn't even have to be a damn party to the underlying crime you absolute MORON. He is being charged with falsifying business documents with an intent of covering up a crime. Namely the violation of Federal campaign finance rules. The crime does not even have to be a felony. I mean what the hell did you do with the money your Mom gave you to go to law school?

§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.


A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Where does it say the "other crime" has to be a felony? That he has to be charged with the other crime? Or hell, even if he has to be a party to the other crime. Where does it say that the other crime has to be a part of the indictment?

You are the stupid one. I have posted the penal code, read the indictment, and read the Statement of Facts. Your claims are just wrong and no "real" lawyer is making them. It's MAGA nutjobs like you all yelling in an echo chamber. Trump can mount a defense, but I can promise you, no motion is going to mention the fact that the underlying crime has to be part of the indictment. There may be an SOL argument, but I wouldn't even bet on that because that would have been part of the Grand Jury hearing.
 
with an intent of covering up a crime. Namely the violation of Federal campaign finance rules. The crime does not even have to be a felony.

So you're telling me an underlying MISDEMEANOR can magically turn other MISDEMEANORS into FELONIES?

And the underlying MISDEMEANOR doesn't have to be proven? Or even mentioned?

I'm done wasting my time on you!
 
So you're telling me an underlying MISDEMEANOR can magically turn other MISDEMEANORS into FELONIES?

And the underlying MISDEMEANOR doesn't have to be proven? Or even mentioned?

I'm done wasting my time on you!
A misdemeanor, used to cover up another misdemeanor, can turn into a felony. Yes, absolutely.
 
Sooooo...what has Trump been charged with? :dunno:

Anybody??? Anybody??? Bueller?

The fact is...nobody knows. I don't know...you don't know...Trump doesn't know...the judge doesn't even know.

DA Alvin Bragg (AKA: Limp Richard) claims that Trump falsified 34 business records in order to hide some monstrous super crime.

And then he never included what that monstrous super crime was :auiqs.jpg:

Has IM2 been moonlighting as the NY DA? :laughing0301:

This is already massively blowing up in their faces. Leftists should count their lucky stars they did NOT insist on the mug shot because that would have buried them further.

I really, really hope Republican DAs go after the Bidens now. Americans do not love Trump's personal life and that he "paid off a porn star" and then "covered it up". But wait til they hear about the Biden family taking bribes from our enemies.....

My oh my, Leftists. Did you ever step in it.
 
This is already massively blowing up in their faces. Leftists should count their lucky stars they did NOT insist on the mug shot because that would have buried them further.

I really, really hope Republican DAs go after the Bidens now. Americans do not love Trump's personal life and that he "paid off a porn star" and then "covered it up". But wait til they hear about the Biden family taking bribes from our enemies.....

My oh my, Leftists. Did you ever step in it.
You people are so damn deluded. You live in a fantasy world, surround yourself with those who think like you, indulge in news sites that confirm your bias, and use social media to verify your own ignorance. When confronted with anything that would contradict your zealot beliefs, you all but stick your fingers in your ears and scream "La, la, la". This massive thread a clear example of just that type of behavior.

The charges against Trump were clearly indicated in the indictment. The indictment itself has been posted. Those charges were bumped up to a felony because he engaged in criminal activity in order to hide an intent to commit a crime or hide a crime. Those crimes were clearly indicated in the Statement of Facts. The Statement of Facts has been posted. And no, Trump doesn't have to be charged with that crime, nor does it have to be a felony. Those are FACTS. Now I see you, fingers in your ears as you sing "La, la, la".

But you damn skippy this is going to blow up in people's faces. Hell, I almost want to call it a stroke of absolute genius, if I could believe it was a political move and not a legal move. But the reality is Trump really did falsify business records, that much is clear. And this ain't Bragg's first rodeo. The charge of falsifying business records has been used dozens of times to bring down everyone from insurance fraudsters to drug dealers. A complete record of the use of that charge has also been posted in this thread.

But the whole fiasco has thrown a red flag in the face of the raving bull that is the Trump base. Now, Trump is almost certain to win the Republican nomination. But make no mistake about it, as he continues to face even more indictments, spends even more time in courts across the land, he will be so soundly thumped in the General Election that it will make Reagan/Carter look like a squeaker. The House flips back to Democrats and the Senate majority continues to grow. The Republican party will never recover. It will be an historical "blow-up".

I mean this is how sick you and your ilk are, "I really hope Republican DA's go after the Biden family". Seriously, I mean we have inflation, trying to recover from the effects of Covid, a war in Europe. Iran and Saudi Arabia are meeting in China for Christ's sake, Israel is off the chain, thousands of protestors in the street and sacrificing a damn goat for Passover might be the spark that ignites the powderkeg. And yet your Republican congress has done nothing other than "investigate the Biden family", oh, and harass a certain local district attorney. The weaponization of government committee has became a weapon of the government, you can't make this shit up. I mean some local yahoo DA is going to be able to uncover something that an entire damn Congressional committee can't? Seriously? Fools, each and every one of you.

So , no Lefties ain't stepped in it. You Trumpbots have fallen completely down the damn rabbit hole and there ain't no jabberwocky blood to drink.
 
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The defendant DONALD J. TRUMP repeatedly and fraudulently falsified NewYork business records to conceal criminal conduct that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election.

From August 2015 to December 2017, the Defendant orchestrated a scheme with others to influence the 2016 presidential election by identifying and purchasing negative information about him to suppress its publication and benefit the Defendant’s electoral prospects. In order to execute the unlawful scheme, the participants violated election laws and made and caused false entries in the business records of various entities in New York. The participants also took steps that mischaracterized, for tax purposes, the true nature of the payments made in furtherance of the scheme.

What was the "criminal conduct" he was trying to hide, allegedly? The indictment doesn't say. So, what was it?
 
What are they? Post a link to the statement of facts, with the page and line where the crime is identified.

. From August 2015 to December 2017, the Defendant orchestrated a scheme with others to influence the 2016 presidential election by identifying and purchasing negative information about him to suppress its publication and benefit the Defendant’s electoral prospects. In order to execute the unlawful scheme, the participants violated election laws and made and caused false entries in the business records of various entities in New York. The participants also took steps that mischaracterized, for tax purposes, the true nature of the payments made in furtherance of the scheme.
 
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