Life of the mother is not a reason to kill the baby in the womb......what 1,000 Doctors say....

Mind your business. Other people's pregnancies are not your business. DO you tell others how to eat, exercise, etc? DO you provide care for pregnant mothers.

get a life. or don't you have one? or do you ignore people close to you as you're on a mission? :auiqs.jpg:


Then other people's murder isn't our business either......
 
Maybe you could tell us which abortion procedure doctors use to save a woman's life. You can not and will not, because abortion procedures are never used to save the life of a mother.
Maybe you can leave others alone?

"You should be locked up in a cage and fed with a stick; you have made life miserable for everyone." -- Mr. Oleson​

 
Then other people's murder isn't our business either......
Murder? Killing of another human being?

not a fetus?

btw, you remind me, that your gawd makes mistakes.

Mrs. Oleson: "If God wanted me to talk with my hands, he wouldn't have given me a mouth."
Nelson "Nels" Oleson: "I guess even God can make mistakes!"
 
Is it time to go after the term "pro-life"? Great question. Blow is a snippet of a convo.

a guest wrote:

I wish people would stop calling the forced birth movement "pro-life." There is no pro-life movement; there is only a movement to force women to carry pregnancy to term. A pro-life movement would support expanded Medicaid, expanded child care, expanded parental leave, the prosecution of dead-beat dads, meal programs for schools and regulation of guns, including an assault weapons ban. Do you think if campaigns attacked that nomenclature, it would accelerate states to end abortion bans?


Opinion Columnist replied:

I use the term "forced birth" for the same reason you explain. Challenging language such as "pro-life" likely would not be decisive, but it could play a role in shaping the discussion. Remember: pro-choice and pro-autonomy forces have already won the argument. More than 60 percent of Americans agree with them. They've also won practically every abortion-related ballot fight since the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision. Now, it's a matter of ending gerrymandered districts and removing the state legislators who are sheltered from accountability.
Shut the fuck up, socialist forced birther retard.

We don’t have to advocate for any of your drivel, and even if we did, you would still promote killing kids.
 
Here we have a whole lot of Doctors who say that they can save the life of a mother without killing the baby in the womb....

Is abortion needed to save the lives of women? The data says no.



Even back in 2013, a study to determine “why women seek abortion in the US” found that only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.

The reality is that women don’t require abortion to save their lives. As of January 2023, the Charlotte Lozier Institute found that only 0.2 percent of abortions occurred due to “risk to the woman’s life or a major bodily function” (emphasis mine).

“Nothing could be further from the truth” than the idea that abortion is “medically necessary” to save a woman’s life, said Dr. Anthony Levatino — an obstetrician-gynecologist and board member of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists (AAPLOG) — in an interview with Live Action.


Levatino, who worked at one of the top high-risk obstetrics hospitals in America for nine years, said he’s “saved hundreds of women from life-threatening pregnancies” through early induction and C-sections, never once having to deliberately kill a child in the process.
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only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.


Back when a sense of right and wrong, ethics, moral center, integrity was the norm among Americans there was simply no question that the doctor did what he/she could to save both the mother and unborn child. On very rare occasions that was not possible and the mother--or the father if the mother was not conscious--made the choice. Sometimes the choice was for the life of the child; probably more often the choice was for the life of the mother most especially if she had other children who needed her.

The issue of whether it was her right to end a pregnancy pretty much never factored into those decisions. It was simply a heart wrenching choice that had to be made.

We were a more ethical and moral people when things were that way.
 
Back when a sense of right and wrong, ethics, moral center, integrity was the norm among Americans there was simply no question that the doctor did what he/she could to save both the mother and unborn child. On very rare occasions that was not possible and the mother--or the father if the mother was not conscious--made the choice. Sometimes the choice was for the life of the child; probably more often the choice was for the life of the mother most especially if she had other children who needed her.

The issue of whether it was her right to end a pregnancy pretty much never factored into those decisions. It was simply a heart wrenching choice that had to be made.

We were a more ethical and moral people when things were that way.
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great comments
 
The percentage of woman dying from child birth is very low when calculated at 100,000 live births. But it can happen. Still you got to love men talking about giving birth when it is something that they will never have to experience it.

Maternal mortality rates include deaths as a result of abortion. They’re pretty much meaningless in this discussion.
 
Maternal mortality rates include deaths as a result of abortion. They’re pretty much meaningless in this discussion.
It is only included in the time range that they have decided that it is included.

WHO definition is as follows

Definition:
The annual number of female deaths from any cause related to or aggravated by pregnancy or its management (excluding accidental or incidental causes) during pregnancy and childbirth or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy, irrespective of the duration and site of the pregnancy.

So yes some abortions meeting the criteria will be included. Still if your argument that it includes only deaths from abortions is wrong. Thee are other reasons that a mother may dies during pregnancy. Age is one factor.

So it is relevant in the decision to give birth when faces with the chance that one may die as the cause of death is not just abortion and includes other things.

In my opinion, woman dying from child birth means that they try to give birth but died in the process and does not necessarily mean abortion.

Granted death rate is low for younger woman but does increase with age and other factors. Older woman have a higher rate of dying while trying to give birth.




  • About 1 in 5 (22%) women died during pregnancy, and about 1 in 8 (13%) died the day of delivery. Mental health conditions were the leading cause of pregnancy-related deaths, involved in more than 1 in 5 deaths among pregnant women and new mothers.

Finally the sad and tragic story of a child under 10 who got pregnant.

Should she have had an abortion ? What if a woman was raped should she get an abortion?


Republicans shocked a 10-year-old can get pregnant after Ohio rape victim abortion story proves true

life is real and there are no easy or perfect definitive answers. It probably happen rarely in the US but it can happen. In the past, I would guess that it happen more often but even in the present it still can.
 
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Here we have a whole lot of Doctors who say that they can save the life of a mother without killing the baby in the womb....

Is abortion needed to save the lives of women? The data says no.



Even back in 2013, a study to determine “why women seek abortion in the US” found that only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.

The reality is that women don’t require abortion to save their lives. As of January 2023, the Charlotte Lozier Institute found that only 0.2 percent of abortions occurred due to “risk to the woman’s life or a major bodily function” (emphasis mine).

“Nothing could be further from the truth” than the idea that abortion is “medically necessary” to save a woman’s life, said Dr. Anthony Levatino — an obstetrician-gynecologist and board member of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists (AAPLOG) — in an interview with Live Action.


Levatino, who worked at one of the top high-risk obstetrics hospitals in America for nine years, said he’s “saved hundreds of women from life-threatening pregnancies” through early induction and C-sections, never once having to deliberately kill a child in the process.
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only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.


Life of the mother is worthless! Good post!
 
Here we have a whole lot of Doctors who say that they can save the life of a mother without killing the baby in the womb....

Is abortion needed to save the lives of women? The data says no.



Even back in 2013, a study to determine “why women seek abortion in the US” found that only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.

The reality is that women don’t require abortion to save their lives. As of January 2023, the Charlotte Lozier Institute found that only 0.2 percent of abortions occurred due to “risk to the woman’s life or a major bodily function” (emphasis mine).

“Nothing could be further from the truth” than the idea that abortion is “medically necessary” to save a woman’s life, said Dr. Anthony Levatino — an obstetrician-gynecologist and board member of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists (AAPLOG) — in an interview with Live Action.


Levatino, who worked at one of the top high-risk obstetrics hospitals in America for nine years, said he’s “saved hundreds of women from life-threatening pregnancies” through early induction and C-sections, never once having to deliberately kill a child in the process.
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only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.


Please note this article was printed in India and it's ranking as a reliable scientific institution was ranked in 6, 000 + place.
 
Here we have a whole lot of Doctors who say that they can save the life of a mother without killing the baby in the womb....

Is abortion needed to save the lives of women? The data says no.



Even back in 2013, a study to determine “why women seek abortion in the US” found that only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.

The reality is that women don’t require abortion to save their lives. As of January 2023, the Charlotte Lozier Institute found that only 0.2 percent of abortions occurred due to “risk to the woman’s life or a major bodily function” (emphasis mine).

“Nothing could be further from the truth” than the idea that abortion is “medically necessary” to save a woman’s life, said Dr. Anthony Levatino — an obstetrician-gynecologist and board member of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists (AAPLOG) — in an interview with Live Action.


Levatino, who worked at one of the top high-risk obstetrics hospitals in America for nine years, said he’s “saved hundreds of women from life-threatening pregnancies” through early induction and C-sections, never once having to deliberately kill a child in the process.
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only 12 percent of women cited “health-related reasons” for their decision to abort. These “reasons,” though, could be anything from back pain to mental health concerns — many times a far cry from “medically necessary.” In fact, this study found that the “most frequently mentioned theme” mothers referenced for ending the lives of their unborn children was related to finances.


This is bull you brownshirt fascist .H ow dare you think you have the right to control a women's body and the fetus. You procreative god worshipping peverts, you are all wrong whether you like it or not .There is no such thing as an unborn child. You are putting a nail to your own coffin against your sexual behavior and reproduction and life style if you don't change your ways.
 
Perhaps we don't need any women getting pregnant. Imagine zero pregnancies. No abortions, no arguing. Problem solved.
 
Imagine the high paying jobs when a population decreases. The lower paying jobs,which don't need to be done, would go away. Win win win
 

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