Life as the Palestinian's know it

[Boston1]

If you're an engineer I'm the pope.

And just what do you base that personal attack on, Mr. High Road?

The Arab Muslims living in Israel are subject to restrictions because of their own actions. They have no one to blame but themselves for those restrictions and if they want them lifted they're going to have to learn to act civilized.

They're subject to restrictions, because the Israeli's are deliberately trying to make their lives a living hell, in the hopes that they will decide they've had enough and will go away.

Your copies word for word of articles from the Internet, you did not even realise that your alternators run at a different frequency to other nations. Causing the US to lose a lot of exports when its electricals go bang, unless the buyers spend twice as much on a converter. In the UK you would be called an electricians mate, and would pass tools to the qualified electrician.

If you're an electrical engineer, I'm president Obama LMAO

In the US Phoenall we'd call him a Grunt. Most semiskilled laborers have one to do the heavy lifting and help prolong what passes for a career. Typically they are young, dumb, foul mouthed ( love to shoot their mouths off about things they don't know anything about ) and in general, not very happy.

Hmmmmm, who does that remind me of ;--)

Tell us more about the lives of people on the other side of the planet from you Billy, tell us more ;--)

In the end the lives of the palestinians as they'd sell it is entirely someone else's fault.

How about time to take responsibility for your own actions and face reality Gaza is an independent country without the capacity to act in a civilized manor.

PS
Sounds like you pull wire for an electrician ( far cry from an electrical engineer ) on some filthy construction site. Best of luck with that, I hear construction is going through another slump.

 

[Phoenall]

What a tool you are!! The flotilla was a publicity stunt. Didn't you see the footage of how they attacked the Israeli soldiers with knives and clubs? Didn't you see the amount of weapons they had on display? And the flotilla sailed out from Turkey--that bastion of human rights who slaughters Kurds, occupies a part of Cyprus, and denies its genocide of Armenians.

That was a fake propaganda video.

Which one as the one I saw was smuggled out by the journalist who filmed it. It shows the terrorists throwing grenades at the RIB's, firing hand guns, attacking the boarding party with metal poles, beating the unarmed officer with clubs and finally slashing his stomach open prior to throwing him into the shark infested sea. It showed a close up of the boxes full of knives used by the terrorists. You can hear the terrorists planning to butcher the officer and throw him to the sharks.



journalists film of the mavi marmara - Bing video

 

[Phoenall]

Well you do seem to be having difficulty with basic reality. It was you after all who said there are no tunnels into Israel from Gaza even though the terrorists themselves admit there are. ;--)) Another reason the pali's remain under restrictions.

Actually, it was a UN report that said that.

An engineer would be bright enough to face reality and admit both the tunnels and the reasons for restrictions are a direct result of pali aggression.

Maybe a civil engineer. I'm electrical.

I'd guess unskilled laborer or maybe semi skilled labor but, probably unskilled, based of your foul mouth and apparent lack of education.

What you're saying is, you don't have a clue?

A great example of you not facing reality is that you can't get that cart behind the horse. The pali's are facing restrictions for a reason. They've consistently endorsed and engaged in terrorism or they wouldn't be in this situation.

The Pals are facing restrictions for the same reason a dog licks' its balls.

Your fantasy of Israel imposing restrictions for the fun of it is ludicrous at best.

You're unable to prove my argument false, so it can't be that ludicrous.

Another clue is that you refuse to learn. Again and again someone on here corrects you and you simply ignore it. Now granted while most engineers aren't all that bright they at least had to take a few classes which would normally mean they'd have some capacity for the educational process.

Which corrections were those? The one about 242 not being binding? I acknowledged that and have since changed my position on it. So what corrections are you talking about?

Which brings me back to

If you're an engineer, I'm the pope.

You said that.

The final nail in your coffin is that you start a thread pretending to be some kinda expert in life as a Arab Muslim in Israel.

This isn't about me.

Most engineers are annoyingly grounded in a very unimaginative view of reality. I'll grant you the annoying part ;--) but reality isn't your strong point.

Would that be a "system" ground, or an "equipment" ground?

I doubt you would know the difference.

PS
It was quite the trick lacing our subject into that explanation. Had I more leeway with the subject I could have had a lot more fun ;--))

You have a 1600A, 480/277V, 3-phase, 4-wire main switchboard with a utility meter.

Do you need GFI? Yes or no?

Now get back on topic. The thread is not about me.

NO IT DIDNT, try reading it again

Not in my books, as engineers design and build. They don't wire a house, that is an electricians job

Definitely unskilled as only semi literates and muslims use so many profanities

Because they like having them ?

First you have to prove your claims are true

All your false claims about Israel that have been proven to be false

So why do you try and make it so

Same thing as they are both tied to ground in the long run, and too many grounds will cause problems with induced signals. This is why my equipment is isolated from the mains, is double insulated and only has one ground or earth point. This happens to be a 10 foot copper alloy rod driven into the earth as close as possible to the equipment bonded with 15mm braid to a busbar that acts as an artificial ground at RF, AF and power

 

[Billo_Really]

If you're an electrical engineer, I'm president Obama LMAO

Is that a step up, or step down, from Pope?

In the US Phoenall we'd call him a Grunt. Most semiskilled laborers have one to do the heavy lifting and help prolong what passes for a career. Typically they are young, dumb, foul mouthed ( love to shoot their mouths off about things they don't know anything about ) and in general, not very happy.

Hmmmmm, who does that remind me of ;--)

This thread isn't about me.

Tell us more about the lives of people on the other side of the planet from you Billy, tell us more ;--)

That you have to go all the way to Nazi Germany to find an entire population of people treated worse.

In the end the lives of the palestinians as they'd sell it is entirely someone else's fault.

In this case, that would be the Israel's (who don't take responsibility for anything they do).

How about time to take responsibility for your own actions and face reality Gaza is an independent country without the capacity to act in a civilized manor.

If Gaza was independent, they'd have control of their airspace and territorial waters.

PS
Sounds like you pull wire for an electrician ( far cry from an electrical engineer ) on some filthy construction site. Best of luck with that, I hear construction is going through another slump.

Since you were unable to answer my question, you're not qualified to render a value judgement on my engineering skills.

 

[Billo_Really]

NO IT DIDNT, try reading it again

I provided the link in an earlier post; go read it yourself.

Not in my books, as engineers design and build.

Engineers don't build, that's what contractors do.

They don't wire a house, that is an electricians job

You're thinking about a GFCI receptacle. That's not the same thing as GFI protection on a switchboard.

Definitely unskilled as only semi literates and muslims use so many profanities

I consider you and B1's comments about Palestinian's pretty profane.

 

[Boston1]

Face it Billy boy, you've been caught lying again.

You lied about the tunnels going into Israel and you're lying about this fantasy you have about being an electrical engineer.

My college room mate for a little over 12 years earned his PHD in electrical engineering. You are definitely NOT electrical engineer material.

Just like you don't know a thing about life as an Arab Muslim in Israel and yet your going on about that as well.

No credibility at all at this point Billy. None at all.

So where were we ;--)

Oh yeah, what have the Gazans brought on themselves

The Gazans have a choice, they can live in their own filth, or they can learn to live like civilized human beings. Its their choice

 

[Shusha]

What food do they have access to? 1500 calories a day?

They have access to over 2300 calories a day. In fact, there is an obesity problem in Gaza with nearly 70% of people being overweight or obese.

They can't access their crops, because you keep shooting at them when they try to harvest.

Actually, the Gaza strip is agriculturally self-sufficient. They produce enough fruits and vegetables for their domestic population and are now farming items such as strawberries and flowers for export.

And fish is definitely not part of their diet, because you keep shooting at their fishermen.

Fishing and fish farming produce 224 tons of fish annually.

They can't drink the water, because you destroyed both their water and sewage treatment plants, then refused entry for the necessary building materials to fix them up again.

The Coastal Aquifer is a mess, but it is certainly not caused exclusively by the conflict (without doubt the conflict exacerbated the problem -- but that is NOT equivalent to an intentional genocide). Its caused by a variety of factors, most of which are the responsibility of the Gaza people and government to address. Israel also provides water to Gaza.

WTF shelter are you talking about? You destroyed 18,000 homes during Protective Edge.

18,000 homes destroyed in a conflict, while tragic, does not make a genocide. To my knowledge no deaths have occurred due to lack of shelter.

And what medical care are you referring to? You bombed 15 hospitals and 45 emergency care centers.

There are 32 hospitals in Gaza. And 93 primary health care centers. Israel also offers medical care to some citizens of Gaza.



I'm not trying to argue that there aren't some issues and problems to be solved in Gaza. There most certainly are. I'm also not trying to say that Israel's economic sanctions aren't contributing to the problem. They most certainly are. (As they are intended to).

My argument is that these problems, real as they are, do not meet the criteria for an intentional, physical genocide and the argument that they do remains more than a little ridiculous. But, I suppose, no more or less ridiculous than stating that all Israelis are "fair game" and that there were never any tunnels built from Gaza into Israel.

 

[Hollie]

Life (such as it is), as Pal'stanians know it.


How to properly beat your wife, according to the PA Mufti in Gaza - PMW Bulletins

How to properly beat your wife, according to the PA Mufti in Gaza


How to hit your wife according to Islam, explained by the PA Mufti of Gaza Hassan Al-Laham "Not hitting that will bring the police,
and break her hand and cause bleeding, or hitting that makes the face ugly.


Lovely, lovely folks.

 

[Billo_Really]

Face it Billy boy, you've been caught lying again.

You lied about the tunnels going into Israel and you're lying about this fantasy you have about being an electrical engineer.

My college room mate for a little over 12 years earned his PHD in electrical engineering. You are definitely NOT electrical engineer material.

Just like you don't know a thing about life as an Arab Muslim in Israel and yet your going on about that as well.

No credibility at all at this point Billy. None at all.

So where were we ;--)

Oh yeah, what have the Gazans brought on themselves

The Gazans have a choice, they can live in their own filth, or they can learn to live like civilized human beings. Its their choice

A PHD in electrical engineering? That means he's not good enough to get a job as an EE, so his plan B is to teach it.

If you have this friend, then why don't you get the answer to my question? Because if you can't, you shouldn't be on this train.

As for the tunnels, the UN says they go to Egypt, not Israel. And none of you have provided any evidence that they do.

Gazans did not bring it on themselves. Every time they try a civilized solution, Israel makes up some reason to attack them.

 

[Billo_Really]

Life (such as it is), as Pal'stanians know it.


How to properly beat your wife, according to the PA Mufti in Gaza - PMW Bulletins

How to properly beat your wife, according to the PA Mufti in Gaza


How to hit your wife according to Islam, explained by the PA Mufti of Gaza Hassan Al-Laham "Not hitting that will bring the police,
and break her hand and cause bleeding, or hitting that makes the face ugly.


Lovely, lovely folks.

Well that was pretty fucked. I definitely don't agree with that (the Mufti, not your post).

 

[Billo_Really]

They have access to over 2300 calories a day. In fact, there is an obesity problem in Gaza with nearly 70% of people being overweight or obese.

There shouldn't be any restrictions on food.

Actually, the Gaza strip is agriculturally self-sufficient. They produce enough fruits and vegetables for their domestic population and are now farming items such as strawberries and flowers for export.

A third of Gazans farmland fall within these "buffer zones".

"...35 percent of the strip’s farming land is located in areas close to the border."
​

Exports from Gaza is virtually non-existent.

Israeli's..."allow up to 10 truckloads of exports a day. This number represents less than 30 percent of pre-2007 exports from Gaza. Also, only specific kinds of products may be exported.

The severe restrictions on exports have severely reduced the income of farmers, who previously exported their produce and now must sell at a loss in the local market, and workshops and factories have had to close because they are prevented from marketing their goods abroad."​

Fishing and fish farming produce 224 tons of fish annually.

That doesn't change the fact that you shoot at them while they are trying to fish and you have no right restricting them to 6 miles from their own coast. That is deliberate and it is intentional.

The Coastal Aquifer is a mess, but it is certainly not caused exclusively by the conflict (without doubt the conflict exacerbated the problem -- but that is NOT equivalent to an intentional genocide). Its caused by a variety of factors, most of which are the responsibility of the Gaza people and government to address. Israel also provides water to Gaza.

The aquifer is a mess and it is definitely Israel's fault.

18,000 homes destroyed in a conflict, while tragic, does not make a genocide. To my knowledge no deaths have occurred due to lack of shelter.

Over 100,000 people are homeless. You make such a fine German.

There are 32 hospitals in Gaza. And 93 primary health care centers. Israel also offers medical care to some citizens of Gaza.

While it let others die.

"Israel has cut back on issuing permits to enter the country for the hundreds of patients each month who need immediate life-saving treatment and urgent, advanced treatment unavailable in Gaza."​

I'm not trying to argue that there aren't some issues and problems to be solved in Gaza. There most certainly are. I'm also not trying to say that Israel's economic sanctions aren't contributing to the problem. They most certainly are. (As they are intended to).

There, you said it. What Israel is doing to Gaza is intentional.

My argument is that these problems, real as they are, do not meet the criteria for an intentional, physical genocide and the argument that they do remains more than a little ridiculous.

You just got done admitting it was intentional.

But, I suppose, no more or less ridiculous than stating that all Israelis are "fair game" and that there were never any tunnels built from Gaza into Israel.

Why do you keep telling that lie? Show me where I said "all Israeli's are fair game", or shut your ******* mouth!

The bottom line is, you cannot do that much widespread destruction unintentionally. You need to stop telling the world the emperor has new clothes.

 

[Boston1]

Face it Billy boy, you've been caught lying again.

You lied about the tunnels going into Israel and you're lying about this fantasy you have about being an electrical engineer.

My college room mate for a little over 12 years earned his PHD in electrical engineering. You are definitely NOT electrical engineer material.

Just like you don't know a thing about life as an Arab Muslim in Israel and yet your going on about that as well.

No credibility at all at this point Billy. None at all.

So where were we ;--)

Oh yeah, what have the Gazans brought on themselves

The Gazans have a choice, they can live in their own filth, or they can learn to live like civilized human beings. Its their choice

A PHD in electrical engineering? That means he's not good enough to get a job as an EE, so his plan B is to teach it.

If you have this friend, then why don't you get the answer to my question? Because if you can't, you shouldn't be on this train.

As for the tunnels, the UN says they go to Egypt, not Israel. And none of you have provided any evidence that they do.

Gazans did not bring it on themselves. Every time they try a civilized solution, Israel makes up some reason to attack them.

Of coarse they do. The ONLY reason ANY of the restrictions are NECESSARY is directly because of the endless violence of the Arab Muslims. They declared war in 1948 and have created their own little world ever since.

And no, I didn't pay much attention to your question. Actually I don't pay much attention to you. I do recall the questions were something about rigging and code and had nothing to do with actual electrical engineering. So yeah. I'm not impressed. My bet is your a laborer for an electrician in charge of carrying tools and pulling wire. Maybe you get to bend a conduit every once in a while.

Oh and no my buddy isn't a teacher, he's at Los Alimos. It'll be a cold day, well you get the picture, before I discuss any of our studies online.

Long story short, if your an electrical engineer I'm back to being the Pope. Since you have trouble understanding other metaphors

As for the condition of the Arab Muslims living in Israel. They'd have been a lot better off without all the racism and hatred than they are now desperately trying to tunnel into Israel while they let their woman and children suffer

 

[Shusha]

Show me where I said "all Israeli's are fair game", or shut your ******* mouth!

Post #175 on the thread: IDF preps fro ground strike

Nationals of a foreign force are not protected persons under the 4th Geneva Convention. And if they're not protected persons, that makes them fair game.

When asked for clarification you replied, on post #234 of the same thread:

Of coarse it means Israeli's. They are nationals of the country Israel.

Fair game=not protected persons=nationals of Israel=Israelis.



The rest of your post still fails to demonstrate that the criteria for both the intent and the physical destruction of genocide has been met.

As an example:

If 35% of Gazan land is not-farmable due to a buffer zone, and Gaza is STILL self-sufficient agriculturally and is capable of producing a surplus for export -- the criteria for the intentional physical destruction of the people of Gaza, in terms of food production, falls far short.

 

[Billo_Really]

Post #175 on the thread: IDF preps fro ground strike

When asked for clarification you replied, on post #234 of the same thread:

Fair game=not protected persons=nationals of Israel=Israelis.

You are really pushing it as much as you can to take what I said out of context. Nationals of a foreign force, are those living in an area of occupation and therefore, according to the 4th Geneva Convention, are not protected persons. Israeli's, living in Israel proper, are.

So I cannot possibly be talking about "ALL" Israeli's. You knew this going in and you still deliberately took my statements out of context.

The rest of your post still fails to demonstrate that the criteria for both the intent and the physical destruction of genocide has been met.

Well, if my statements didn't, then operation protective edge certainly did. And looking back on everything the Israeli's have done (since 1948) to the Palestinian's, there is no question the intent is genocide.

a systematic campaign of murder and ethnic cleansing in 1947-48,
the killing of an estimated 13,000 Palestinians,
the forcible eviction of 850,000
the depopulation and subsequent destruction of nearly 500 villages and localities.​

Massacre's at...

Deir Yassin, Tantoura, Abbasiyya, Beit Daras, Bir Al-Saba’, Haifa ​

That is deliberate; that is intentional; that is ethnic cleansing; that is genocide!

As an example:

If 35% of Gazan land is not-farmable due to a buffer zone, and Gaza is STILL self-sufficient agriculturally and is capable of producing a surplus for export -- the criteria for the intentional physical destruction of the people of Gaza, in terms of food production, falls far short.

Here we are how many webpages in and you still haven't addressed any other issue that was listed in the OP. You are deliberately trying to derail the conversation off on one issue, in order to prevent any meaningful discussion on the Palestinian plight. Because nothing happens in a vacuum. You have to look at everything they've gone through to get a clear understanding of...

...LIFE AS THE PALESTINIANS KNOW IT!​

 

[Billo_Really]

Of coarse they do. The ONLY reason ANY of the restrictions are NECESSARY is directly because of the endless violence of the Arab Muslims. They declared war in 1948 and have created their own little world ever since.

Violence didn't start until the Zionist migration. Before that, Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs got along just fine. They still do. It was the Zionist migration that imported all the hostility violence into the area.

And no, I didn't pay much attention to your question. Actually I don't pay much attention to you. I do recall the questions were something about rigging and code and had nothing to do with actual electrical engineering. So yeah. I'm not impressed. My bet is your a laborer for an electrician in charge of carrying tools and pulling wire. Maybe you get to bend a conduit every once in a while.

You didn't pay attention to what I said, you don't pay much attention to me, yet you insist on making value judgments on what I do? And to top it off, you claim the electrical code, has nothing to do with electrical engineering? Trolls like you would claim Michael Jordan doesn't know shit about basketball.

Oh and no my buddy isn't a teacher, he's at Los Alimos. It'll be a cold day, well you get the picture, before I discuss any of our studies online.

Then have him answer my question, if he's so smart.

Oh, I forgot, trolls don't answer direct questions, either.

Long story short, if your an electrical engineer I'm back to being the Pope. Since you have trouble understanding other metaphors

What was wrong with Obama? Dude, you waffle more than IHOP.

As for the condition of the Arab Muslims living in Israel. They'd have been a lot better off without all the racism and hatred than they are now desperately trying to tunnel into Israel while they let their woman and children suffer

Prove the tunnels go into Israel. Just saying they do, doesn't cut it.

 

[Billo_Really]

Another thing the Palestinian's must endure, is the constant barrage of lies and propaganda in the media. The whole discussion is about the rocket fire into the OPT, not the constant day to day killing of Palestinian's at the hands of the IDF.

Despite the fact that they have vastly inferior weapons, are killed in much greater numbers than Israelis, live under Israeli occupation and are having their land taken from them by Israelis, Palestinians are generally portrayed in the US as the aggressor. Ironically, under the much vilified Hamas-led Palestinian Authority, Palestinians have killed by far the fewest Israelis in any period during this six-year intifada — nineteen Israelis over seven months.
​

All we here about, are the weapons going into Gaza. By comparison, what we don't hear, is about all the weapons in Israel.

Israeli reporter Amira Hass put Gaza arms smuggling in perspective, writing in the Israeli Ha’aretz on October 18 that “what exists in Israelis’ consciousness is not the millions of cluster bombs … or the tens of millions of bombs and shells and lethal bullets stored in our arms warehouses and our gun barrels and the bellies of our helicopters and planes. Although the amount of such explosives is measured in the millions of tons, it is the 20 tons of explosives and the few thousand rifles that permeate the Israeli consciousness.”​

 

[Boston1]

Of coarse they do. The ONLY reason ANY of the restrictions are NECESSARY is directly because of the endless violence of the Arab Muslims. They declared war in 1948 and have created their own little world ever since.

Violence didn't start until the Zionist migration. Before that, Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs got along just fine. They still do. It was the Zionist migration that imported all the hostility violence into the area.

And no, I didn't pay much attention to your question. Actually I don't pay much attention to you. I do recall the questions were something about rigging and code and had nothing to do with actual electrical engineering. So yeah. I'm not impressed. My bet is your a laborer for an electrician in charge of carrying tools and pulling wire. Maybe you get to bend a conduit every once in a while.

You didn't pay attention to what I said, you don't pay much attention to me, yet you insist on making value judgments on what I do? And to top it off, you claim the electrical code, has nothing to do with electrical engineering? Trolls like you would claim Michael Jordan doesn't know shit about basketball.

Oh and no my buddy isn't a teacher, he's at Los Alimos. It'll be a cold day, well you get the picture, before I discuss any of our studies online.

Then have him answer my question, if he's so smart.

Oh, I forgot, trolls don't answer direct questions, either.

Long story short, if your an electrical engineer I'm back to being the Pope. Since you have trouble understanding other metaphors

What was wrong with Obama? Dude, you waffle more than IHOP.

As for the condition of the Arab Muslims living in Israel. They'd have been a lot better off without all the racism and hatred than they are now desperately trying to tunnel into Israel while they let their woman and children suffer

Prove the tunnels go into Israel. Just saying they do, doesn't cut it.

You are delusional. Before Israel your buddies were planning genocide

Now there's life as the pali's know it. Conferring with their fellow Nazi's on just how to "get along" as you call it, with their Jewish neighbors.

 

[Phoenall]

If you're an electrical engineer, I'm president Obama LMAO

Is that a step up, or step down, from Pope?

In the US Phoenall we'd call him a Grunt. Most semiskilled laborers have one to do the heavy lifting and help prolong what passes for a career. Typically they are young, dumb, foul mouthed ( love to shoot their mouths off about things they don't know anything about ) and in general, not very happy.

Hmmmmm, who does that remind me of ;--)

This thread isn't about me.

Tell us more about the lives of people on the other side of the planet from you Billy, tell us more ;--)

That you have to go all the way to Nazi Germany to find an entire population of people treated worse.

In the end the lives of the palestinians as they'd sell it is entirely someone else's fault.

In this case, that would be the Israel's (who don't take responsibility for anything they do).

How about time to take responsibility for your own actions and face reality Gaza is an independent country without the capacity to act in a civilized manor.

If Gaza was independent, they'd have control of their airspace and territorial waters.

PS
Sounds like you pull wire for an electrician ( far cry from an electrical engineer ) on some filthy construction site. Best of luck with that, I hear construction is going through another slump.

Since you were unable to answer my question, you're not qualified to render a value judgement on my engineering skills.

You decide ?

Then stop trying to make it about you

Than the Jews you mean, as you just have to look for the Jewish communities in the M.E. Don't be ashamed when you cant find any will you, after all they were ethnically cleansed in your name over the last 80 years.

How about some evidence with corroboration then to prove your claim. Or cant you find any other than what is availsable on Jew haters R us

Not while they are committing war crimes, but if they did how long would it be before the planes littered all of gaza. Over 2000 illegal rockets fired at Israeli children is over 2000 war crimes for which the Palestinians directly involved should be executed. That includes the one caught on film playing on the rocket launchers while acting as human shields.

So as an engineer what have you designed and proven to work, that is what engineers do. They don't pull wires through walls and connect them at each end according to a plan drawn by a qualified engineer with a B.A or M.A. in electrical engineering

 

[Phoenall]

NO IT DIDNT, try reading it again

I provided the link in an earlier post; go read it yourself.

Not in my books, as engineers design and build.

Engineers don't build, that's what contractors do.

They don't wire a house, that is an electricians job

You're thinking about a GFCI receptacle. That's not the same thing as GFI protection on a switchboard.

Definitely unskilled as only semi literates and muslims use so many profanities

I consider you and B1's comments about Palestinian's pretty profane.

I did AND YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN

NO engineers design and build prototypes, then fault find until they have a proven working model. Fitters assemble the finished article according to the engineers plans. Contractors cut corners and show that the engineer was right the first time, and so do it right the next time. As in VW cars that had you American "engineers" think you knew better than the designers and put in inferior parts and then had to bodge the ECU to give the results proven by the engineers prototype.

No I am thinking of the high status lowly contractors give themselves that is not deserved. The training period is what shows the engineer, and many engineers of 30 years service are still training. Most contractors after 3 years stop training and start putting on airs and graces.

But they are not section 5 profanities, and you don't have the qualifications to make any judgement on any matter

 

[ForeverYoung436]

If you're an electrical engineer, I'm president Obama LMAO

Is that a step up, or step down, from Pope?

In the US Phoenall we'd call him a Grunt. Most semiskilled laborers have one to do the heavy lifting and help prolong what passes for a career. Typically they are young, dumb, foul mouthed ( love to shoot their mouths off about things they don't know anything about ) and in general, not very happy.

Hmmmmm, who does that remind me of ;--)

This thread isn't about me.

Tell us more about the lives of people on the other side of the planet from you Billy, tell us more ;--)

That you have to go all the way to Nazi Germany to find an entire population of people treated worse.

In the end the lives of the palestinians as they'd sell it is entirely someone else's fault.

In this case, that would be the Israel's (who don't take responsibility for anything they do).

How about time to take responsibility for your own actions and face reality Gaza is an independent country without the capacity to act in a civilized manor.

If Gaza was independent, they'd have control of their airspace and territorial waters.

PS
Sounds like you pull wire for an electrician ( far cry from an electrical engineer ) on some filthy construction site. Best of luck with that, I hear construction is going through another slump.

Since you were unable to answer my question, you're not qualified to render a value judgement on my engineering skills.

"You'd have to go all the way back to Nazi Germany to find an entire population treated worse".

Since Nazi Germany, there have been genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan, Bosnia, and in the Middle East today (concerning Christians). Don't they qualify as people?