Billo_Really, et al,
OK, here we go again with the perpetual victim whining.
Imagine yourself living under these conditions: Living in limbo under a foreign occupier.
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If the Arab Palestinians are in "Limbo," it is a zone of their own making. Occupation started in 1949 with the effective control extended by the Arab Community. That "Limbo" lasted nearly two decades before the "occupation" changed hands. During the occupation by members of the Arab League, the Arab Palestinians made no significant advancement.
What makes you believe that being without oversight would make the Arab Palestinians any more productive?
What makes you believe that the Arab Palestinian would be any less violent or a stabilizing influence in the if without oversight? (Do you think that the Fedayeen would have been any more peaceful then they were when they were free in Jordan --- where they assaulted the Royal Motorcade twice and attempted a
Coup d'état?
Imagine yourself living under these conditions: Having no self-determination, no right of return, and no power over your daily life.
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The "right of Self-determination, as stipulated by Article 1(2) of the Charter, was never taken away. But, the Arab Palestinian must understand that such a right is a reciprocal arrangement. It is "based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace." If the exercise of the Arab Palestinian right of self-determination interferes or obstructs the exercise of the Israeli right of self-determination ---- then it is NOT a measure that strengthens universal peace. When the Jewish People declared independence on the advise and with the assistance of the General Assembly of the United Nations, and the Arab Palestinians opened up a regional conflict by attacking Israel
(outside their Arab borders) with the intent to overturn the "advise and with the assistance of the General Assembly, by the use of military force --- the Arab (including the Arab Palestinians) became the aggressor. And, with the exception of the Peace Treaties with Jordan and Egypt, the remainder of the Arab Community is still are war
(albeit under a cease-fire) with Israel; except for the relationship with the Arab Palestinians, which rejected peace.
The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:
“ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
Imagine yourself living under these conditions: Being in constant fear, economically strangled, and collectively punished.
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If there is an economic problem, in connection to the necessary security protocols, that is a consequence of the Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) attempting to focus it financial and economic resources to the purpose of conflict. The HoAP made a informed decision.
On 6 February 1948, a communication to the Secretary-General, United Nations (UN) by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee (AHC) which made it clear that the AHC "Delegation solemnly declares that it is the unflinching determination of every Arab in Palestine to defend his country against any power or group of powers or any force going to Palestine to partition the country. The Arabs are in duty and honor bound to defend their country to the last man." This is essentially was a declaration of war between the AHC
(representing the Arab Palestinians) and the State of Israel. This was articulated in the 1
968 Palestinian National Charter AND again reemphasized in the
2005 Palestinian Charter of Honor,
(contained in the DCAF › Publications › Towards Palestinian National Reconciliation).
The Arab Palestinian periodically confirm their need for conflict --- not peace::
To confirm the legitimacy of the armed resistance, political strife, and all means of Jihad and struggle which the Palestinian people has exercised and is exercising to attain freedom and independence, and to lobby all powers to denounce all forms of occupation and tyranny in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and each span occupied by the foreigner.
Imagine yourself living under these conditions: Having your free movement denied by enclosed population centers, closed borders, regular curfews, roadblocks, checkpoints, electric fences, and separation walls.
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This is part and parcel, a consequence of the established history of criminal behaviors of the HoAP. This constant increase in belligerent behaviors made it necessary for the State of Israel to employment a full range of security countermeasures that, grow with the increased threat and protect Israel from subversion, lawlessness, insurgency, terrorism, and other threats to its peace and security; these threats having been declared as a duty by the HoAP.
Remember the periodic reaffirmation of the threat that mirrors the 1948 threat:
Abeer Ayyoub in Gaza City and Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem
Tens of thousands celebrate Hamas 'victory' rally as exiled leader returns
Saturday 8 December 2012
Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal vowed Gaza's rulers would never give up "an inch of the land" to
Israel in an uncompromising speech before tens of thousands of cheering supporters at a triumphalist "victory" rally in Gaza City.
"Palestine is ours, from the river to the sea and from the south to the north. There will be no concession on an inch of the land," he told the crowd on his first visit to
Gaza. "We will never recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation and therefore there is no legitimacy for Israel, no matter how long it will take."
Imagine yourself living under these conditions: Having your homes regularly demolished and land systematically stolen to build settlements for encroachers in violation of international law prohibiting an occupier from settling its population on conquered land.
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Often, the HoAP attempt to curve the laws such that it protects the security threat. It is similar to the logic that "Protected Persons" are free to target any Israeli in sight.
To prevent the indiscriminate targeting of different religions, cultures, civilians and non-participating civilians --- and --- to take all measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to counter incitement of terrorist acts motivated by extremism and intolerance and to prevent the subversion of educational, cultural, and religious institutions by terrorists and their supporters; take such action in order to find and deny safe havens and bring to justice those "Protected Persons" which committed offenses that were solely intended to harm the Occupying Power; --- as well as --- serious acts of sabotage against the military and law enforcement installations of the Occupying Power or other intentional offenses which have or were intended to caused the death of one or more persons; on the basis of requirements in Article 43 of the Hague Regulation (1907) and the domestic law.
The destruction of such properties which were allowed to provide support HoAP; and to strengthen the coordination --- detection, exploitation and neutralization of HoAP threat activities, deny safe havens, and in cooperation with other police, security and law enforcement agencies, in combating crimes that might be discovered a connected between protected persons and their families and friends giving aid and comfort to terrorist activities, including illicit arms collection, in particular of small arms and light weapons, including man-portable air defense systems, money laundering and smuggling, and other harmful or hostile action by HoAP Jihadist, Fedayeen, Insurgents, Terrorist and other asymmetric Palestinian forces Masquerading as freedom fighters, it may become necessary to destroy or demolish property used for such purposes.
Settlements in Area "C" which are under the full authority of Israel is different. The Palestinian Authority (PA) has some responsible for providing education and medical services to the Palestinian population in Area C. However, construction and maintenance of the infrastructure necessary for these services remains in Israel’s hands. Civil matters remained under Israeli control in Area C and are the responsibility of the Civil Administration. The PA has never availed themselves to the dispute resolution process; having chosen to open conflict as opposed to the negotiation by peaceful means.
Imagine yourself living under these conditions: Having your right to essential services denied – to emergency health care, education, employment, and enough food and clean water.
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Not to say there is not one, but I've never heard of a place where the citizenry did not want more or better infrastructure, government provided services, or other resources. So what makes the Arab Palestinian any different? Particularly since the Arab Palestinian is a dependent external contributions and parasitic to the donor community.
I'm in no position to comment on the "water" situation, in connection with the brand new housing in Rawabi, West Bank. I've commented on the need to construct the Mother-of-all-Distillation Plants to provide water to all regions of the territory west of the Jordan River. But I do admit, there are some aspects of this resource war. Why it was approved and then denied is beyond my understanding; but sounds political to me.
Imagine yourself living under these conditions: Being willfully harassed, ethnically cleansed, arrested, incarcerated, tortured, and slaughtered on any pretext, including for your right of self-defense... Victimize and Vilified ... etc -- etc -- etc --
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I don't know if I can address this. I've looked back five years (that is only until 2011) and cannot find an event in which describes the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory
(except for the issue of some Beduin Tribal disputes). I've looked back five years and cannot find a where Arab Palestinian were randomly or indiscriminately rounded up and --- on mass --- arrested and incarcerated. I have looked back five years and find the discovery of --- or witnesses stepping forward to report the discovery of mass executions and/or slaughter of any Arab Palestinians
(with the exception of Arab Palestinian violations of Rules 23 and 24 resulting in casualties).
It is my opinion that pro-Palestinians and Arab Palestinians, have a tendency to victimize themselves, sometimes intentionally. A classic example is when (May 2010) a number of Turkish Activists, Arab Palestinians [Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation, (İHH)] and pro-Palestinians from a number of different countries, assembled a Six Vessel (small ship) Flotilla formed around the MV Mavi Marmara. an IHH Owned a Comoros-flagged passenger ship, From all outward appearances, this was an attempt to created a Media Event through the deliberate confrontation with Israeli Naval elements. The Flotilla Operators made an public announcement to their intentions --- and to make sure the Israelis knew. The flotilla, on approach skirted the perimeter of the making sure the Israelis had plenty of time to optimize their defensive more. Then, after the violence erupts, the and the Region acts very surprised.
The Arab Palestinians are known for using the media.
Most Respectfully,
R
